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Liz Cheney: ‘I Am Not Pro-Gay Marriage’
Mediaite ^ | August 31st, 2013 | Evan McMurry

Posted on 08/31/2013 1:31:21 PM PDT by Mozilla

Wyoming senatorial candidate Liz Cheney definitively stated her opposition to gay marriage on Friday, despite the pro-marriage stance of her father Dick Cheney, and her sister Mary Cheney, who married her partner last year.

“I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage,” declared Cheney in a campaign statement. “I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves.”

Cheney issued the statement because she felt opponent (and friend of her father’s) Mike Enzi was “distorting her views” on the issue via a robocall that asked respondents, “Are you aware that Liz Cheney supports abortion and aggressively promotes gay marriage?”

“The people of Wyoming deserve an honest campaign,” Cheney said. “They should not be subject to the kind of dirty tricks this push poll represents.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: cheney; cheney2014; denial; dickcheney; gaymarriage; gopprimary; homosexualagenda; lizcheney; marycheney; mikeenzi; randsconcerntrolls; randspeopledidit; waronterror; wy2014; wyoming
Let the fun begin.
1 posted on 08/31/2013 1:31:21 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

UPDATE: A spokesman for Enzi told The Daily Caller they are not behind any push poll:

“Neither Mike Enzi’s campaign, nor anyone affiliated with his campaign, has conducted any polls in Wyoming,” spokesman Coy Knobel said in an email. “He would never support a push-poll, or tolerate anyone working for him who conducted one. For Liz Cheney to assert otherwise, without any proof whatsoever, shows more about her campaign than Mike Enzi’s.”

Knobel added: “Mike Enzi prefers to focus on traveling around the state and talking to people one-on-one. That tells him what he needs to know about what Wyoming people are thinking.”

UPDATE II: A Cheney campaign spokeswoman responds to the Enzi campaign’s statement to TheDC:

“This is an evasive answer,” spokeswoman Kara Ahern told TheDC. “Senator Enzi should instruct any entity, including the NRSC, doing polling on his behalf to stop this type of dirty tricks.”

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/30/liz-cheney-says-shes-against-gay-marriage/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


2 posted on 08/31/2013 1:32:10 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Neocon Cheney deserves being deposited into the dustbin of history.


3 posted on 08/31/2013 1:34:33 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Mozilla

That robo call was so over the top that it wouldn’t surprise me if Cheney’s team was the initiator of it... to play the victim card.

Why would Enzi do it when he’s leading by about 50 points?


4 posted on 08/31/2013 1:35:09 PM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: Mozilla

I never cared if she was or wasn’t but wanted to get in before the haters


5 posted on 08/31/2013 1:40:37 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Mozilla

And Liz, you aren’t Dick Cheney either even though you are close since you dick up just about every situation into which you have dabbled. Do the citizens of Wyoming and yourself a huge favor—end your political career now.


6 posted on 08/31/2013 1:41:36 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: Mozilla

no thanks.


7 posted on 08/31/2013 1:48:49 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Mozilla

I think Ms. Cheney is lying to gather votes.


8 posted on 08/31/2013 1:59:20 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Mozilla

We need bold colors, not plain pastel.


9 posted on 08/31/2013 2:00:01 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Mozilla
Yes... and no doubt she'll have a Rob Portman "Change of Heart" moment immediately after she is elected.
10 posted on 08/31/2013 2:00:05 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
And Liz, you aren’t Dick Cheney either even though you are close since you dick up just about every situation into which you have dabbled

Examples?

11 posted on 08/31/2013 2:04:43 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Mozilla

And yet, Federal judges are already deciding, even in those states that have not specifically 'decided' the issue.

[Liz will morph into anything she thinks the conservatives would like and turn into a 'moderate' if she wins.]
12 posted on 08/31/2013 2:33:20 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Mozilla
I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves …
Hmm. That is not republican (in terms of form of government), but purely democratic. The Founding Fathers believed in private morality upholding the state(s), not letting popular democracy decide whether a state goes Sodom/Gomorrah.
13 posted on 08/31/2013 2:47:55 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Mozilla

Falling back on the “States Rights” position for either Pro-Life or Anti-Gay Marriage issues is the position of cowards and those who could either care less, or would rather not fight for her so-called anti-gay marriage position.


14 posted on 08/31/2013 2:48:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Mozilla.
Cheney issued the statement because she felt opponent (and friend of her father's) Mike Enzi was "distorting her views" on the issue via a robocall that asked respondents, "Are you aware that Liz Cheney supports abortion and aggressively promotes gay marriage?" "The people of Wyoming deserve an honest campaign," Cheney said. "They should not be subject to the kind of dirty tricks this push poll represents."

15 posted on 08/31/2013 3:06:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SoConPubbie
>> Mike Enzi was “distorting her views" <<

I think Liz Cheney's the one "distorting her views". In 2009, she fully supported her father and sister's position, and was all for the federal government promoting gay marriage:

“Q. How do you feel about the California Supreme Court's decision [on Proposition 8], and what do yo think the Obama administration should do on the question of same-sex 'marriage'?”

“A. Well, look, I think, you know, my family has been very clear about this, that we think freedom means freedom for everybody."

I applaud the State Department decision to extend benefits to same-sex partners around the world. I think it's wrong to discriminate in those relationships based on somebody's sexual preference.”

“I certainly would not like to see a constitutional amendment, as was suggested in the last administration, banning it.”

16 posted on 08/31/2013 3:16:18 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: nhwingut

During the 1964 campaign, Lyndon Johnson, despite having a BIG lead, had his people call voters in the middle of the night before Election Day to ask them to vote for Goldwater.


17 posted on 08/31/2013 3:28:39 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Mozilla
But she did not deny that she was pro abortion....
18 posted on 08/31/2013 3:28:57 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Liz Cheney has been forceful and strong in promoting the homosexual agenda for years including homosexual marriage.

During that time of being the strong bold speaker for homosexuality, she had never revealed any pro-life leanings and had pointedly avoided the abortion issue.


19 posted on 08/31/2013 3:34:47 PM PDT by ansel12 (Obama-[obamacare] "used to be a Republican idea. There's a governor of Massachusetts who set it up.")
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To: IbJensen
Neocon Cheney deserves being deposited into the dustbin of history.

Why?

20 posted on 08/31/2013 3:36:37 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
since you dick up just about every situation into which you have dabbled. Do the citizens of Wyoming and yourself a huge favor—end your political career now.

Why? What are her political sins?

21 posted on 08/31/2013 3:38:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Olog-hai
That is not republican (in terms of form of government), but purely democratic.

Sorry bro but it's not "democratic", it's States rights vs. Federal and that's the only thing she's pointing out.......

22 posted on 08/31/2013 3:42:54 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Venturer
I think Ms. Cheney is lying to gather votes.

Y'know. The same thing occurred to me.

23 posted on 08/31/2013 3:50:13 PM PDT by BfloGuy (People who know what theyÂ’re talking about donÂ’t need PowerPoint.)
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To: BillyBoy
In 2009, she fully supported her father and sister's position, and was all for the federal government promoting gay marriage:

No she didn't, she said it is a state issue...........

Liz Cheney on Same Sex Marriage

24 posted on 08/31/2013 3:52:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Mozilla
Marriage is what we the people say it is.


25 posted on 08/31/2013 3:54:18 PM PDT by conservativeimage.com (I Won't Go Underground http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wema3CNqzvg)
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To: Venturer
"I think Ms. Cheney is lying to gather votes."

If elected, she will have been against it before she was for it.

26 posted on 08/31/2013 3:57:02 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Liz Cheney fully supported gay marriage as “freedom means freedom for everyone”, that is a civil rights statement.

Liz Cheney supported the homosexual agenda at the FEDERAL level, and for homosexualizing the American military.

Cheney is pulling a Romney, she is just suddenly reversing her positions after years of promoting them.

Liz Cheney was early in her support for gay marriage and the homosexual agenda, including at the federal level and for the military.

She wanted DADT ended and rejoiced when it was, she was against DOMA, is against a constitutional amendment to save marriage, and supports gay marriage, and supports the State department move to the gay agenda.

After 46 years of life and politics, and being a member of the Romney campaign where she never expressed a pro-life belief, she has also suddenly become “strongly pro-life”, just for this campaign.


27 posted on 08/31/2013 4:54:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (Obama-[obamacare] "used to be a Republican idea. There's a governor of Massachusetts who set it up.")
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To: Hot Tabasco
Why? What are her political sins?

Supporting the pro-abortion man who gave America gay marriage, was for homosexual scout leaders, ending DADT, and who gave us Romneycare.

Gay agenda/pro-abortion Liz was supporting Romney in 2008.

28 posted on 08/31/2013 4:58:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (Obama-[obamacare] "used to be a Republican idea. There's a governor of Massachusetts who set it up.")
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To: Mozilla

First Marco Rubio, now Liz Cheney.

Step one, deny, deny, deny the very position people fear you hold because they have heard and seen you support it in the past.

Step two, get yourself elected.

Step three, stab the voters in the back by doing exactly as the people feared

That’s the ticket, Liz. You elites think you can run the same stupid game over and over again and we’ll never catch on. Why don’t you go join the party of low info idiots and take you deviant sister with you.


29 posted on 08/31/2013 5:40:01 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: ansel12

Yeah, I’m sure you know her heart better than her own sister.


30 posted on 08/31/2013 5:47:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

That didn’t make any sense since I haven’t commented on her heart, just her political positions.

You can look at post 27 also.

You will have to work harder to promote this homosexual agenda pushing candidate.


31 posted on 08/31/2013 5:56:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (Obama-[obamacare] "used to be a Republican idea. There's a governor of Massachusetts who set it up.")
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To: Mozilla

Not before the election at any rate. She will “evolve” later.


32 posted on 08/31/2013 5:57:40 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Hot Tabasco; ansel12; heye2monn; Graybeard58; SoConPubbie; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; ...
Going by the assumption that her current position is consistent with her 2009 beliefs, she seems to be saying that although she "personally" thinks gay marriage should be a "freedom for everyone", she won't try to use her "personal views" to enact any kind of nationwide federal law to that effect. Instead, she thinks its a state issue and we should send to back to the states for future generations of Americans to decide.

Incidentally, Obama made the same "conservative" argument in his 2012 campaign:

"For us to try to legislate federally into this area is probably the wrong way to go" he told an MTV audience, saying gay marriage should be left up to "future generations of Americans"

33 posted on 08/31/2013 6:04:42 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy

Liz Cheney was not really hiding behind the fig leaf of states and marriage when she,

1. Made the civil rights claim of freedom (gay marriage) means freedom for “everyone”.

2. Opposed not only DOMA, but also a Constitutional Amendment protecting marriage.

3. Supported the homosexual agenda at the Federal level for the State department and the military.

By the way, anyone care to post her pro-life position during the years before she suddenly adopted it only weeks ago, for this campaign?


34 posted on 08/31/2013 6:17:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (Obama-[obamacare] "used to be a Republican idea. There's a governor of Massachusetts who set it up.")
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To: JSteff

She said “I am strongly pro-life.” (Top of the page, 2nd paragraph.) What does that mean to you?


35 posted on 08/31/2013 6:21:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I said, Pray (Pray!) Ah yeah, we pray! (Pray!) We got to pray just to make it today." MC Hammer)
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To: JSteff
I should clarify: what it means to me is, she's lying.
36 posted on 08/31/2013 6:24:38 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I said, Pray (Pray!) Ah yeah, we pray! (Pray!) We got to pray just to make it today." MC Hammer)
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To: ansel12

Post 27 is just a serious of ex-cathedra statements with no context.

It’s clear that she doesn’t support federal interference in state affairs — you’ll have to work, period, to substantiate your claims.


37 posted on 08/31/2013 6:41:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: BillyBoy; Hot Tabasco; ansel12; heye2monn; Graybeard58; SoConPubbie; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

Exactly!

I don’t trust her a bit on this issue.

And if she can’t be trusted on this, she can’t be trusted on anything.

Litmus test issues:

1. Abortion.
2. Gay Agenda.
3. Illegal Immigration.

If they waffle on these, if they equivocate, if they give weasley answers, they’re not trustworthy, and they do not merit the job of representative, senator or president.


38 posted on 08/31/2013 7:03:30 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SunkenCiv

The gay marriage only for certain states feint, is a silly fig leaf when states recognize each other’s marriages, and federal employees and all the military and federal immigration law all recognize gay marriage.

Your fig leaf is pretty thin if you think that American families, FBI men, and Marines and corporate CEOs will not have their families come to be recognized in all states when they move or relocate for work.

Liz Cheney was not really hiding behind the fig leaf of states and marriage when she,

1. Made the civil rights claim of freedom (gay marriage) means freedom for “everyone”.

2. Opposed not only DOMA, but also a Constitutional Amendment protecting marriage.

3. Supported the homosexual agenda at the Federal level for the State department and the military.

By the way, anyone care to post her pro-life position during the years before she suddenly adopted it only weeks ago, for this campaign?


39 posted on 08/31/2013 7:05:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (Obama-[obamacare] "used to be a Republican idea. There's a governor of Massachusetts who set it up.")
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To: SoConPubbie; ansel12; Impy

Impy nails it too. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Liz Cheney ASKED her lesbian sister to “denounce” her position publicly so it will help her with conservative voters in WY and boost her conservative credentials: ‘She MUST sincerely oppose gay marriage and the gay agenda if her lesbian sister is bashing her! What courage to stand up for her convictions after family pressure! This PROVES she’s a TRUE conservative!!”

Fortunately, conservatives don’t seem to be failing for that trick.


40 posted on 08/31/2013 7:22:21 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy; SoConPubbie; ansel12

Seems pretty obvious to me, I mean what else could her motive be? Help Mike Enzi who is to Liz’s right on the issue? Lol. Trying to paint her sister as anti-gay only helps Liz in the primary and would in the general election too.

Typical politics, I’ll compare it to an old race, in 2006 liberal democrat and gay activist Ron Gunzburger (who runs the excellent poltiics1.com which lists candidates for every statewide and congressional race) insisted that his friend, closeted gay RINO (at the time) Charlie Crist was a steadfast conservative, it wasn’t because he wanted Crist to lose the primary to Bill McCollum!


41 posted on 08/31/2013 7:45:57 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: BillyBoy; SoConPubbie; ansel12

Excuse that’s Tom Gallagher that was Crist’s 2006 primary opponent.


42 posted on 08/31/2013 7:53:29 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Olog-hai
I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves … Hmm. That is not republican (in terms of form of government), but purely democratic. The Founding Fathers believed in private morality upholding the state(s), not letting popular democracy decide whether a state goes Sodom/Gomorrah.

Isn't that the way the Founders purposely set it up? Representative Republic entails the whole Nation and the States, as smaller entities get their votes in a Democratic vote. A single State doesn't affect the Nation as a whole, but gets to make decisions that the Feds don't get to make for States. In order to OK/Ban something in all the States, you need Federal push and then it would be tyranny.

43 posted on 09/01/2013 3:27:24 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

Not according to the Constitution, which guarantees every state a republican (not democratic) form of government per Article IV Section 4.

And as for one single state not affecting the whole nation, consider the so-called California Effect. George Washington meant what he said about religion and private morality being “indispensable supports” to the entire nation.


44 posted on 09/01/2013 5:37:52 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Hot Tabasco

Liz is the antithesis of Conservative. She believes, like all good neocons, that we belong enmeshed in the affairs of all nations of the world. She believes, like her father and other good little members of the CFR, that we have a democracy that must be exported.


45 posted on 09/01/2013 7:30:24 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“I am seriously conservative” ~ Max Headroom Romney


46 posted on 09/02/2013 3:56:27 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Waryone

If Rubio was smart, he would endorse Cheney to help Mike Enzi.


47 posted on 09/14/2013 3:17:41 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Mozilla

At best, this is a misrepresentation of her belief.


48 posted on 09/14/2013 3:26:25 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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