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Obama leaving door open to Syria strike, even if Congress votes no
FoxNews ^ | August 31, 2013 | James Rosen and Ed Henry

Posted on 08/31/2013 7:24:49 PM PDT by Cheerio

President Obama apparently is leaving the door open to moving ahead with a military strike on Syria even if Congress votes against it, adding to the confusion over the president’s evolving position.
The president, in a surprise decision Saturday, announced he would seek a vote in Congress on launching a military attack against the Assad regime.
One senior State Department official, though, told Fox News that the president’s goal to take military action will indeed be carried out, regardless of whether Congress votes to approve the use of force.

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TOPICS: Government; Israel; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; nutjob; obama; russia; syria; tyranny; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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He don't need no stinkn' Congress, but for the LIV crowd he will crow that he tried, but has to look out for America's interests regardless of the Obstructionist GOP Congress . wanna bet?
1 posted on 08/31/2013 7:24:49 PM PDT by Cheerio
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To: Cheerio

Ignore this.

The legal consequences of going ahead after congress forbids it will be such that he will not do it.


2 posted on 08/31/2013 7:27:55 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Cheerio

Oh yeah. That’s got ‘em shaking, Barry.

More like a one sided B*tch Fight.


3 posted on 08/31/2013 7:30:00 PM PDT by llevrok ("It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words....." - Geo. Orwell)
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To: old curmudgeon
What legal consequences? *cough*NSA files*cough*
4 posted on 08/31/2013 7:32:43 PM PDT by null and void (Bush: Cowboy Diplomacy. Obama: Rodeo Clown Diplomacy.)
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To: old curmudgeon
Congress will vote yes because the Minority Whip will force the issue and Boehner will line up a yes vote on his side because he'll say in exchange, Obama will not fight the debt ceiling issue.

This is, after give years soooo predictable.

5 posted on 08/31/2013 7:37:13 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Cheerio

Come on. It’s obvious that Obama never wanted to do this and is looking for a way out.


6 posted on 08/31/2013 7:37:34 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: ari-freedom

I say let him have his way out, then.

But you know McCain and Boner and Graham won’t let that happen.


7 posted on 08/31/2013 7:38:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: old curmudgeon

Yeah, this is a “finesse”, which actually has some analogy to the bridge maneuver in this case, I think ... kind of.


8 posted on 08/31/2013 7:39:27 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Cheerio

Correct. He didn’t go hit the phones after the press conference. He went and played golf.
CBS reported:
Shortly after his statement, the president and Vice President Biden headed to Fort Belvoir in Virginia to play golf.


9 posted on 08/31/2013 7:39:35 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: Cheerio
Watch this video of Syrian "rebels" are firing chemical weapons.
10 posted on 08/31/2013 7:40:07 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: atc23

No, they won’t. If the GOP votes for the strike, which risks a wider war, they will lose a substantial amount of their base and they will lose the House.
But maybe you’re right. The GOP does have a death wish. Just look at immigration.


11 posted on 08/31/2013 7:43:21 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: old curmudgeon
The legal consequences of going ahead after congress forbids it will be such that he will not do it.

You don't get it, my brother.

Obama REVELS in rubbing your nose in his lawlessness. He throws the LITERAL finger in meetings with Republicans. When he loses something, he doubles-down. Remember when Scott Brown's win damned Obamacare? He doubled-down and got it rammed through anyways, via Louis Slaughter and her 'Deem and Pass' manuever.

If there is a NO vote on a Syrian strike, he will proceed, and he will DARE anyone to do anything about it. Of course, after the eventual nuclear strikes on America, he won't be ruling over much, but he could really give a shit.

12 posted on 08/31/2013 7:43:33 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Cheerio

Add it to the long list of impeachment offenses.


13 posted on 08/31/2013 7:46:58 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Cheerio

Defund CommieCare to pay for bombs.


14 posted on 08/31/2013 7:47:23 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Lazamataz

“I won.”


15 posted on 08/31/2013 7:47:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cheerio

He will launch before the vote.


16 posted on 08/31/2013 7:50:13 PM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Cheerio

Correct. He didn’t go hit the phones after the press conference. He went and played golf.
CBS reported:
Shortly after his statement, the president and Vice President Biden headed to Fort Belvoir in Virginia to play golf.


17 posted on 08/31/2013 7:50:42 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: Excellence

“The missiles are flying...hallelujah....hallelujah.”


18 posted on 08/31/2013 7:50:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Rockitz

Who will bring charges?


19 posted on 08/31/2013 7:51:07 PM PDT by null and void (A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: grumpygresh

Never underestimate the willingness of the republicans to cast themselves headlong right up Hussein’s rump rather than be described as a mean spirited, confederate lynch mob out to get America’s first mixed race Rodeo Clown president


20 posted on 08/31/2013 7:53:28 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Cheerio

America’s Bonaparte. More like Napoleon III than the first one.


21 posted on 08/31/2013 7:55:02 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: old curmudgeon

At least Hitler and his minions had spiffy uniforms with visored hats and arm bands, without a scorecard you can’t tell his minions from the rinos.


22 posted on 08/31/2013 7:55:03 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Cheerio

New talking points next week: Liberal media will bring up the “politics stop at water’s edge” meme, so Republicans must support Obama. Democrats will point out the “hypocrisy” of Republicans supporting Bush on foreign policy but not Obama. Republicans will cave.


23 posted on 08/31/2013 7:55:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Cheerio

He will strike. The narrative will be that republicans voted for murdering children today and with that obstructionist vote they have left the president no choice but to move ahead with military action to protect woman and children.

That’s what will be said.


24 posted on 08/31/2013 7:55:36 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Cheerio; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; Liz; ...
RE :”One senior State Department official, though, told Fox News that the president’s goal to take military action will indeed be carried out, regardless of whether Congress votes to approve the use of force. “

OK, with me. Let Obama got it completely alone without allies or congress or even his liberal base. As GWB was warned and ignored :”You break it you own it’

Will Obama shutdown the government and cut-off the troops pay in the middle of an air-strike that he ordered on his own?

Obama doesn’t need congress for delaying parts of O-care, or amnesty, or federal drug offenses, so why this? They should vote to tell him to pound sand.

25 posted on 08/31/2013 7:56:05 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Lazamataz

I do get it.

But when Israel is forced to use nukes, our embassies are on fire all over the world, Russia, Britain and China are all giving us a hard time because their oil sources are out of service, there will be repercussions.

There is the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Eventually obumbler will reach that point simply because he does not know when too far is too far.


26 posted on 08/31/2013 7:56:18 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

Bump!

I agree totally.

If he openly defies congress on this one, he could be impeached. Yes, I know the Senate will not, but there might be enough pressure from We the People, that enough ComDem Senators might actually do it.


27 posted on 08/31/2013 7:56:56 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: ari-freedom

Yeah, it is obvious. What’s also clear is that all his posturing has now put him in a position that is even more damaging to what little was left of his credibility before. Announcing he’s giving Congress a vote while simultaneously announcing he’s going to go ahead with the attack regardless of what Congress does completely cancels out any value the vote might have had in providing him cover. He’s so inept he can’t even pull off a good charade.


28 posted on 08/31/2013 8:01:03 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: dfwgator

Good DEAD ZONE ref. Eerily appropriate.


29 posted on 08/31/2013 8:06:12 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Cheerio

Obama wants congress to say “no”. This is his way out. I say congress should give him the go ahead. Then he owns it.


30 posted on 08/31/2013 8:06:46 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: Cheerio

Somebody please ask Valerie Jarrett what she wants to do on all this. Just skip talking to Bamster and his Bagdad Bob.


31 posted on 08/31/2013 8:07:04 PM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: Cheerio

Boner will force a yes vote...Odumbo will fire missiles....innocent women and children will get killed... and Boner and Odumbo will sit down and have a good cry. The US will be the laughing stock of the world and the Mid East countries will band together and wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. Our economy tanks and we’re left in misery and poverty. That’s my optomistic thought for the day.


32 posted on 08/31/2013 8:07:45 PM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: ari-freedom

I think the “leaders” of congress who met with Obama assured him they’d cover for his ass and vote “no”. Mccain and Graham yelling for an “attack” is all smoke and mirrors.


33 posted on 08/31/2013 8:08:52 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: ari-freedom

Right. And Fox News is looking for ratings.


34 posted on 08/31/2013 8:10:32 PM PDT by 867V309 (Stupidity is ordained; Ignorance is a choice.)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m not sure Slaughter’s “deem and passed” was used. Rather, they reconciled in the Senate without rewriting anything (taking Pelosi’s bill as is), thus bypassing the filibuster. One of the reasons it’s an even bigger mess than expected. Some changes were allowed, involving taxes that can evade the filibuster rule, like the amendment for Bart Stupid promising to remove abortion from Obastardcare (They put it right back).


35 posted on 08/31/2013 8:17:26 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Uncle Miltie: Obama poisoned race relations for a generation. Everything is racial now.)
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To: Cheerio

Congress comes back September 9. I suspect that BO is going to ask Boner and The Dim Bulb From Searchlight to vote on authorization for military action against Syria first, then, win or lose, he’ll attack on September 11 so nobody will bother to note that it’s the anniversary of Benghazi.


36 posted on 08/31/2013 8:19:15 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Cheerio

Congress comes back September 9. I suspect that BO is going to ask Boner and The Dim Bulb From Searchlight to vote on authorization for military action against Syria first, then, win or lose, he’ll attack on September 11 so nobody will bother to note that it’s the anniversary of Benghazi.


37 posted on 08/31/2013 8:19:33 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Cheerio

Assad killing Syrian children is an atrocity, so Hussein is going to punish him by killing Syrian children.

He can’t wait to kill some kids to show the world he’s tough.


38 posted on 08/31/2013 8:19:41 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: null and void

82nd Airborne?


39 posted on 08/31/2013 8:20:32 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: VerySadAmerican

Agree 100%.


40 posted on 08/31/2013 8:22:11 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: QQQQ

Do you mean charges as in satchel or?


41 posted on 08/31/2013 8:23:59 PM PDT by null and void (A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: VerySadAmerican

McCain, Graham say cannot support limited Syria strikes

Published: 08.31.13, 23:59 / Israel News

US Republican Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham on Saturday said they could not support isolated military strikes on Syria that are not part of a bigger strategy.

“We cannot in good conscience support isolated military strikes in Syria that are not part of an overall strategy that can change the momentum on the battlefield, achieve the president’s stated goal of (Syrian President Bashar) Assad’s removal from power, and bring an end to this conflict, which is a growing threat to our national security interests,” they said in a statement. (Reuters)

From the Israeli newspaper few minutes ago.


42 posted on 08/31/2013 8:26:28 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: null and void

Whatever you like.:-)


43 posted on 08/31/2013 8:28:24 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: QQQQ

I am of divided mind on that one.


44 posted on 08/31/2013 8:29:50 PM PDT by null and void (A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Cheerio

This is how a “community organizer’ conducts foreign affairs. They’re all laughing at him.


45 posted on 08/31/2013 8:30:13 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: null and void

No one should even bother until the GOP wins back the Senate in 2014.


46 posted on 08/31/2013 8:30:44 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: null and void

You can combine both ideas...;-)))


47 posted on 08/31/2013 8:32:08 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: null and void

“Who will bring charges?”

Maybe Vladimir Putin.


48 posted on 08/31/2013 8:32:22 PM PDT by Tupelo (There are no Republicans or Democrats in Washington. Just Millionaires protecting their turf.)
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To: Rockitz

When entire districts had 120+% turn out with every vote being cast to The Won, and not a single GOPe batted an eye, you expect even one congressional seat to be taken away from a democrat?

How?


49 posted on 08/31/2013 8:34:51 PM PDT by null and void (A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Tupelo

HMMMM... great idea for movie...multiple Oscars ....


50 posted on 08/31/2013 8:35:54 PM PDT by QQQQ
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