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Assad assassination attempt may have prompted chemical weapons strike
NBC 'blogs ^ | August 28, 2013 | Richard Engel and Robert Windrem

Posted on 08/31/2013 10:38:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Salim Idris, commander of the Free Syrian Army... said the attack on the rebel enclaves around the capital on Aug. 21 was ordered as pressure mounted on Assad -- even from his own supporters -- for a reprisal to the Aug. 8 attack, in which rebels fired rockets at his motorcade as it rolled through the Malki neighborhood of Damascus, headed to a local mosque for prayers marking the end of Ramadan.

Assad is not believed to have been in the motorcade at the time of the rocket attack, but the brazen assault on the president's own doorstep had a chilling effect on Assad and senior military officials...

Idris also indicated that pressure also has been growing on Assad to respond to a series of rebel advances.

One of the biggest gains for the rebels was the capture in July of large stockpiles of weapons from government depots near Qalamoun north of the capital, including 600 Concourse anti-tank rockets, according to Idris...

An equally important reason for taking drastic action may have been recent fighting in what Syrians call the "Sahel," the coastline around Latakiya that is the stronghold of Assad's regime and his religious base of support, Idris said.

The Assad family is Alawite, an offshoot of Shiite Islam. The rebels, like the population in general, are overwhelmingly Sunni Muslims. Since the war began, the Sahel has been a stable rock of Assad support -- safe and seemingly immune to the war. But fighting has intensified there recently in government protected Alawite villages. Rebels even captured the Alawite religious leader Sheikh Badr Grazel, and according to some reports have killed him. The fighting in the Sahel shook the confidence of some in the Alawite community who complained that Assad had lost his ability to protect them, Idris said.

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TOPICS: Israel; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: freesyrianarmy; iran; israel; latakia; lebanon; littlebrotherdidit; maheralassad; richardengel; robertwindrem; russia; sahel; salimidris; sheikhbadrgrazel; syria; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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Free Syrian Army fighters escort a convoy of U.N. vehicles carrying a team of chemical weapons experts to one of the sites of an alleged chemical weapons attack in Damascus' suburb of Zamalka on Wednesday. -- Bassam Khabieh / Reuters

Bassam Khabieh / Reuters

1 posted on 08/31/2013 10:38:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: Nachum; LucyT

FWIW


2 posted on 08/31/2013 10:40:01 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Assad’s Brother Seen Linked to Syria Chemical Attack
By Terry Atlas & Sangwon Yoon - 2013-08-28T12:32:51Z
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-27/assad-s-brother-seen-linked-to-syria-chemical-attack.html

Assad’s brother suspected in gas attack: UN official Provided by Bloomberg
By Bloomberg | Aug 28, 2013 9:11 am | iPolitics
http://www.ipolitics.ca/2013/08/28/assads-brother-suspected-in-gas-attack-un-official/

Maher al-Assad accused of orchestrating deadly chemical weapon attack
Harriet Alexander and Philip Sherwell, The Telegraph | 13/08/25 | Last Updated: 13/08/25 9:08 PM ET
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/25/maher-al-assad-accused-of-orchestrating-deadly-chemical-weapon-attack/

Bashar Al Assad’s Brother May Have Ordered Last Week’s Chemical Weapons Attack
Brian Jones Aug. 28, 2013, 10:20 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/maher-al-assad-ordered-weapons-attack-2013-8


3 posted on 08/31/2013 10:40:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Assad assassination attempt may have prompted chemical weapons strike

Assad assassination attempt may not have prompted chemical weapons strike

Well, that pretty well covers it.


4 posted on 08/31/2013 10:41:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Monkeys may fly out of my butt.
Monkeys may not fly out of my butt.


5 posted on 08/31/2013 10:41:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

There you go. Another fine observation. LOL


6 posted on 08/31/2013 10:42:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: SunkenCiv

It is still just as likely that the rebels set off the chemical weapons... they did it before (Chlorine Gas)


7 posted on 08/31/2013 10:43:20 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: dfwgator

Look, this was the NBC Blogs, so you know there’s some juju sauce behind it. /s


8 posted on 08/31/2013 10:43:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: SunkenCiv

a tragic event.
whoever did it.
but when those in power amass huge quantities of deadly weapons or ammo.......
far beyond what is needed for their border police or any other legitimate purpose....
then....
???


9 posted on 08/31/2013 10:43:44 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: SunkenCiv

This guy will probably end up like Qaddaffi & Syria will be ruled by the very extremists we were supposed to be fighting.


10 posted on 08/31/2013 10:47:49 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: GeronL

No, in fact, they did not, this most recent time, or the supposed earlier incidents.

So far, this mass-murder with poison gas by the Assad gov’t was denied (”those people in the pictures aren’t really dead, they’re faking it”); then the lying Russians claimed that the news story about the attack was released a day before it happened (it wasn’t, but that didn’t stop support for that ridiculous lie); then the inevitable “they did it, not us” started in earnest; the various adamant (and completely baseless) false flag claims began on day one by the look of it, but those false flag claims on behalf of the Assad dictatorship are themselves false flags by people who support the Assad dynasty, Putin and the NeoSoviet empire, the Iranians, and/or Lew Rockwell.


11 posted on 08/31/2013 10:48:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I don’t support or trust either side.

I am definitely not going to side with the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda. EVER.


12 posted on 08/31/2013 10:49:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Republican1795.

Assad can’t regain control of Syria without killing the majority of Syrians. Whereas he is just the guy to do that, he doesn’t have the means, hence, there will be no military resolution to his problems.

He has consistently refused to negotiate on the same kinds of flimsy pretexts used by the PLO and its spinoffs, and the Russians and Chinese will veto any kind of UN Security Council resolution, so there will be no negotiated settlement to this.

The various paramilitaries don’t have the means to control the entire country either, but the fighting will go on for years, and will continue even if Assad is bumped off at some point.

None of the militia groups (there are many) will ever exert control over more than some little fiefdom, so the eventual disposition is partition, and probably after the fashion of Lebanon, which was dismantled with the connivance of the PLO and Syria, and the active participation of Iran and its proxies.

Meanwhile, the Russians will continue to dig themselves in deeper, and similarly, the Iranians will continue to pour manpower and treasure into keeping Assad propped on his horse.


13 posted on 08/31/2013 10:57:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: GeronL

Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt’s Generals:
‘How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?’
Foreign Policy | 15 Aug 2013 | John Hudson
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055253/posts

Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt’s military — even as Cairo’s security forces massacre anti-government activists.

[by “anti-government activists” is meant church-burning jihadists]

Sen. Cruz Statement on Egypt (Suspend aid over anti-Muslim Brotherhood ‘coup’)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055492/posts

Ted Cruz blames Egyptian violence on Obama’s disregard for foreign aid law
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055589/posts


14 posted on 08/31/2013 10:57:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wonder why the media doesn’t just declare this “Yellow Rain” from honeybees, like they used to?


15 posted on 08/31/2013 11:03:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (Obama-[obamacare] "used to be a Republican idea. There's a governor of Massachusetts who set it up.")
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To: SunkenCiv
Watch this video of Syrian "rebels" are firing chemical weapons.
16 posted on 08/31/2013 11:04:35 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Interesting. Worth keeping a watch on for more info.


17 posted on 08/31/2013 11:19:13 PM PDT by Nachum (I am Breitbartacus!)
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To: ansel12

Because the POTUS isn’t Republican, duh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_rain

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/09/26/science/bees-and-yellow-rain-a-new-explanation.html

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1359850/yellow-rain


18 posted on 08/31/2013 11:25:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Yosemitest

Just as convincing as the Tehran Times “story” and other agitprop you’ve been posting.


19 posted on 08/31/2013 11:25:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Yosemitest

That is not a video of chemical weapons being used.


20 posted on 08/31/2013 11:49:46 PM PDT by RDAardvark (faith is a fact.)
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To: RDAardvark
WRONG.
You Obama supporter are all alike.
You LIE and refuse to admit the truth.
21 posted on 09/01/2013 12:09:53 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SunkenCiv
Here's why the Muslim Brotherhood wants to overthrow Syrian President Bashar Assad, and their Rebels launching the chemical attack was mean to get Obama to fight their war for them.
I believe that Obama had already agreed with Saudi Prince Bandar to blame the wrong party for the chemical attack, and that he knew before hand that the Syrian Rebels were really the ones responsible.
Obama doesn't care about the truth, but only advancing the Muslim Brotherhood.
Obama is PURE EVIL. It's just that simple!

I'd be more concerned about Putin and what his Russian submarines will do, in support of Syria, and Vladimir Putin's desire for the recently found oil fields in and around Syria.
Putin's not about to let that oil field and his only semi warm water port in Sevastopol, fall into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood.

To say the least, Russia has real national security interest in that area, and that news oil field goes well south of Turkey and into Syria.

Then there's Putin’s Pipeline To Syria:
So wake up, and, ... ... see WORLD WAR III coming!
22 posted on 09/01/2013 12:20:53 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SunkenCiv

Syria needs to be split up into three parts, Latakia, Kurdistan and Jihadistan.


23 posted on 09/01/2013 12:20:58 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Yosemitest

Silly post. Who could take such nonsense and fantasy seriously?!


24 posted on 09/01/2013 12:25:17 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Go back to sleep.
The truth has smacked you in the face several times, yet you choose to believe a lie.

NEVER FORGET:
25 posted on 09/01/2013 12:27:59 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

It’s not my fault that you are gullible enough to believe ridiculous internet myths.


26 posted on 09/01/2013 12:30:28 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
And it's not my fault that you refuse to believe the truth.
Have you not read about the remnant of Syria ?
27 posted on 09/01/2013 12:33:54 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Have you not looked at a map?!

Sevastopol is nowhere near Syria or the Muslim Brotherhood.

What, have you copied and pasted so blindly that you didn’t even **read** the post that I smacked you down about?!

Sad...


28 posted on 09/01/2013 12:39:10 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
That's why I posted the map.
The oil field is that large, and the Muslim Brotherhood movement is affecting shipping that will have to move through Istanbul, and Turkey is next.
Wake up.
And grow up.
Can't you think more than one move at a time?
29 posted on 09/01/2013 12:48:10 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Monkey with hand grenade may pull the pin and throw it.

Monkey with hand grenade may not pull the pin and keep it.


30 posted on 09/01/2013 3:24:53 AM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: SunkenCiv

Or may be that Assad did not even use the weapons:

Breaking news: Rebels admit gas attack result of mishandling chemical weapons

http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-news-rebels-admit-gas-attack-result-of-mishandling-chemical-weapons

Sounds more credible to me than what the Fed Gov says happened.

Remember Benghazi? Lies 24/7 is what Obozo and minions are known for.


31 posted on 09/01/2013 3:33:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Yosemitest

This isn’t a matter of debate. That video shows an explosive missile, not a chemical weapon. You are ignorant, and yet you keep sputtering nonsense from your useless word-hole. Seek help.


32 posted on 09/01/2013 4:22:50 AM PDT by RDAardvark (faith is a fact.)
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To: RDAardvark

The evacuation of firing site is Chem launch safety SOP. Also the use of plastic materials and canister is typical as metals would react or corrode


33 posted on 09/01/2013 6:02:51 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: RDAardvark
WRONG!
Go defend the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF at the DU.
34 posted on 09/01/2013 10:17:22 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Texas Fossil

The source is garbage, but there’ll always be people who will saddle on this false flag about false false flags because it fits their agenda.

Dale Gavlak works for Mint Press ‘News’:

http://www.minnpost.com/david-brauer-blog/2012/01/who-mintpress-and-why-are-they-doing-all-hiring

It’s a division of Associated Press, which has been coordinating all the pro-Assad agitprop, which again has been seized upon by the pro-Assad apologists, Antiwar.com and LewRockwell.com fans, and other skinheads.


35 posted on 09/01/2013 10:19:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Chemical weapons in Yosemite? Where is the EPA?


36 posted on 09/01/2013 10:24:35 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Yosemitest

You are living in a fantasy land.

Nothing you post is even remotely real...or true.

Sad.


37 posted on 09/01/2013 2:55:26 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Listen Obama defender, name your expertise and prove your point.
Liquid was poured into the top cannister, and it's disburst on impact.
Go back to the DU where you come from.
Put up or shut up!
38 posted on 09/01/2013 7:37:03 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

You can’t even keep your posts straight.

I’m not the one posting to you about chemical weapons.

Nope. I’m the one who pointed out that Sevastopol is nowhere near Syria, contrary to your wild-eyed claim that Russia’s semi-warm-water port of Sevastopol had something to do with the current Syrian conflict!

You are utterly clueless.


39 posted on 09/01/2013 8:23:16 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Well, EXCUSE ME!
Sevastopol has a lot to do with this and I explained that also.
Now I've got 26 plus years in the military.
What experience do you have?
40 posted on 09/02/2013 12:10:34 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Your experience, real or imagined, doesn’t matter because you pull your post materials from Fantasyland.

Sevastopol has *nothing* to do with Syria.

Oil has NOTHING to do with Syria.

Natural gas and pipelines have *nothing* to do with Syria.

In short, you are utterly clueless about the entire Middle East (and probably about most of life and reality, to boot).


41 posted on 09/02/2013 12:19:56 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
And you LACK of experience or any valuable knowledge allows you only to talk about your FEELINGS.
You're so naive, it's pathetic.
You haven't offered any PROOF of your silly accusation.
NONE.
Go back to grade school, and learn how to debate.
42 posted on 09/02/2013 12:28:20 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

You either aren’t grasping, or aren’t reading.

I schooled you on Sevastopol. That’s not some “feeling.”

That’s geographic and geopolitical fact.

I point out that Sevastopol isn’t part of the current Syrian crisis due to **geography**, and you respond, like an utter idiot, that I’m somehow talking about “feelings.”

Sheesh. Carrots have higher IQs than you.


43 posted on 09/02/2013 12:52:09 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Read this Intelligence Analysis Study:
Now get out of your sophomore grade school FEELINGS, LEARN how to debate, and WAKE UP.
WORLD WAR III is coming, quicker than you think.
It's going to go NUCLEAR real fast.

Read your Bible (especially about "the remnant of Syria" and "the king of the north", "the king of the south" !
44 posted on 09/02/2013 1:17:35 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Southack

You can’t school anyone, child!


45 posted on 09/02/2013 1:18:22 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

You aren’t capable of understanding when you’ve lost.

Houseflies have higher IQs than you.

You *first* posted your grand “comeback” post to me, in response to a poster who had schooled you about chemical weapons.

You couldn’t even keep your posters straight.

Then you tried to claim that talking about the geographical location of Sevastopol was about “feelings,” as if you had copied and pasted some post from some ancient debate.

You couldn’t even respond coherently.

Are you drunk? Or just stupid?

You certainly don’t realize that you’ve been schooled on Syria...and probably don’t realize much if anything from *any* of your own schooling...assuming that you had any.

In short, you are incoherent and idiotic. You are babbling, off-subject, confusing hard facts such as the physical location of a port city with “feelings,” and ranting as if getting in the last word, even when you do it so poorly, will somehow improve your standing here.

Internet bots carry on better debates than what you can manage.

You don’t even seem sentient. Hmmm...


46 posted on 09/02/2013 1:56:24 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Yosemitest

Ah, more copy and pastes. Heck, you haven’t even read what you are posting.

You certainly don’t have the IQ to understand what it says.


47 posted on 09/02/2013 1:57:25 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
You haven[t addressed ANY FACT.
All you are is "RHETORIC".
Go away and get an education.
Its obvious you don't know what you're talking about, and it's obvious no one will hire you, not even the military.
Address the FACTS, or SHUT UP.
You have NOTHING OF VALUE to add.
48 posted on 09/02/2013 2:00:45 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Southack
And you still DON'T ADDRESS THE FACTS.
The FACTS blow you away!
49 posted on 09/02/2013 2:01:59 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Of course I’ve addressed facts. I pointed out that the port city of Sevastopol was too far from Syria to be part of the current Syrian conflict.

The problem is that you are too stupid to know what a fact looks like.

You rant on, like a troll or a mindless internet autobot program.

Clueless.


50 posted on 09/02/2013 2:02:26 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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