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Bad News for Lamar: Tea Partiers Vow to Stand United
Nashville Scene ^ | August 31, 2013 | Jeff Woods

Posted on 09/01/2013 3:58:56 AM PDT by don-o

The tea party settled one question this afternoon at a meeting to audition candidates to challenge Sen. Lamar Alexander in next year’s GOP primary. Both Joe Carr and Kevin Kookogey promised they'll drop out of the picture if tea partiers are rallying behind the other guy.

Carr, a three-term state representative from Murfreesboro, took the pledge in his opening statement to the crowd of roughly 300 at the Sheraton Music City Hotel. It was the first of five meetings to vet potential challengers to Alexander and to conduct secret straw polls. At the end of September, tea partiers will add up the votes and decide which candidate to back. Carr said if it’s not him, he’s out.

We’re all here for one reason and one reason only, and that’s to beat Lamar Alexander for the United States Senate. Before I go any further, I’m going to tell you that this process is so important that we’ve got to unite around one candidate. However this process works out, I pledge to you that I will support that candidate because it’s that important. We as principled constitutional conservatives can no longer allow ourselves to be divided. We need one candidate who can run against Lamar who can win this election and carry the banner of constitutional conservatism to the United States Senate.

Kookogey, a former chairman of the Williamson County GOP, made a similar promise later in response to a question. Unlike Carr, who announced his candidacy this month, Kookogey hasn’t said whether he’ll run yet.

“The target is Lamar,” Kookogey said, adding that if he decides to run and “if Joe is polling ahead of me and he has more money, absolutely I would step aside and I would give him my money.”

This is bad news for Alexander, who hopes his opponents within the Republican Party will divide their votes in the primary. Splitting the conservative vote arguably is the only reason Bob Corker is a U.S. senator today. He won his primary in 2006 with fewer votes than the combined total of his two more conservative opponents. Bill Haslam did the same thing in his 2010 primary for governor.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2014midterms; joecarr; kevinkookogey; lamar; lamaralexander; randsconcerntrolls; teaparty; tennessee; tn2014
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1 posted on 09/01/2013 3:58:56 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

Gee....imagine. Candidates that put standing for principles ahead of personal power, united against an internal traitor. Refreshing. I hope to see more than just a few faux Republican traitors fall in 2014.


2 posted on 09/01/2013 4:10:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: don-o

If conservatives learn to back one challenger, instead of splitting their vote among several candidates, we are finally going to get some of these RINOs out of office.


3 posted on 09/01/2013 4:11:24 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: don-o

Rumors of the Tea Parties death have been greatly exaggerated.

These old RINO’s had better wake up and vote right or they will find themselves out of a job.


4 posted on 09/01/2013 4:11:53 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: don-o

Good. Stand firm & get rid of ALL the career politicians.


5 posted on 09/01/2013 4:23:36 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: txrefugee

Tenn is winner take all - so we MUST land on ONE challenger. S Carolina has runoff, so a case can be made for multiple challengers.


6 posted on 09/01/2013 4:23:54 AM PDT by don-o (don-o - Member since August 30, 1998. Happy Anniversary to me!)
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To: Gaffer

Corker’s facebook has been very active lately. Every post he puts up gets blasted exposing his rinoism.


7 posted on 09/01/2013 4:25:45 AM PDT by don-o (don-o - Member since August 30, 1998. Happy Anniversary to me!)
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To: don-o

Did someone say Lamar??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDm3zCvN4ao


8 posted on 09/01/2013 4:26:45 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: Hardraade

Make that.... Lamar!


9 posted on 09/01/2013 4:30:07 AM PDT by don-o (don-o - Member since August 30, 1998. Happy Anniversary to me!)
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To: Venturer

Nixon’s silent majority lives


10 posted on 09/01/2013 4:38:11 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: don-o

Sure perks up my interest in an otherwise irrelevant political process.


11 posted on 09/01/2013 4:44:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("OK, youse guys, pair off by threes." - Yogi Berra)
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To: don-o

I would be thrilled to see that clown show Alexander sent packing.


12 posted on 09/01/2013 5:02:20 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Gaffer

Now they need to voluntarily commit to term limits. One and done! Lamar is a case study of incumbency.

He’s been Trent Lott-isized.


13 posted on 09/01/2013 5:09:36 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: don-o

TES YES YES !!! Finally, I have been saying this for years


14 posted on 09/01/2013 5:16:01 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: Gaffer
This is a first for Tennessee in the forty years that I have been voting here.
15 posted on 09/01/2013 5:18:32 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: SC_Pete

I think I’d do these term things a little differently.

The Six Year Senatorial term, I believe, was intended to provide a national emphasis and continuity of the bond between the states, and to their limited responsibilities to this abortion we now have - the Federal Government.

I think that the popular election of Senators was a big big effing mistake. More party unity and collaboration between the typical Senator, and state interests held by the state legislatures was evident, IMO. As it is today, each Senator is just a six year liar...do what the hell they want and then come home every 6 years to lie to their constituents. They are, essentially, an independent contractor who is only reviewed every 6 years. They are basically beholding to no one. If I had my way, I’d put it back to the state legislatures to elect each Senator, and then put the term back down to 4 years.

For Congressmen, I’d put their terms at three years...just enough time to get experienced in the workings of government, but not enough time to feather their nest. Their election would still be by local state district, but they should be subject to a recall by any state legislature garnering more than 3/4 of its members.

I’m a firm believer of States Rights and State Control over its elected member process to the Federal Government. We have too many rogues in Congress now beholding to no one but national special interest groups, the media, to their own power continuance, etc. Or, they are just plain bat-shit crazy like McCain.

Regardless, we need to take them out of play, even if it means Republicans lose.


16 posted on 09/01/2013 5:20:23 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Repeal of the 17th Amendment would be great—but the most important thing is to get to the root cause of corruption in the entire system: RE-ELECTION. One term for the Senate and two terms for the House would be sufficient.

Special interests own each incumbent. That’s why there is only one party in Washington: the re-Election Party.


17 posted on 09/01/2013 5:28:43 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: don-o

The Tea Party represents the only group of true Americans left in the new USSA. Sadly, they are too few and too late to overcome the Obamination of America.


18 posted on 09/01/2013 5:29:30 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW
Have a flag

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19 posted on 09/01/2013 5:35:07 AM PDT by don-o (don-o - Member since August 30, 1998. Happy Anniversary to me!)
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To: Venturer

If the old guard want to continue thier boot licking, a## kissing and decieving the American people let them jump over to the rats they’re rats in the making and behind closed doors anyway. Besides what is worse than a rat you know is a rat, a rat that you presieve to be on your side


20 posted on 09/01/2013 5:39:49 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: don-o

Lamar! is already campaigning hard with ads on TV calling himself a “conservative.” Since when does a “conservative” vote over 60% of the time with liberal Democrats like Lamar does? I’m sick of these RINO liars. Corker did the same thing last election.


21 posted on 09/01/2013 6:03:01 AM PDT by BloomNTn
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To: don-o

I think someone up there has been reading my posts.......

I have described such a process for winnowing out the tea party/conservative candidate......... It is in my mind, a “secondary” to select the candidate for the primary.

I take this a great news. In September yet. It gives Lamar plenty of time to develop a plausible reason to drop out.


22 posted on 09/01/2013 6:12:14 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: BloomNTn

Here in upper East Tennessee he ran an add flogging his great achievement....... a bill to allow fishing below dams.

What a joke, even if Rand Paul didendorse it.

I called it fiddling while Rome Burns. The fact he ran the ad this summer says to me he knows he is in trouble. He has been polling here also.


23 posted on 09/01/2013 6:17:51 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: don-o; xzins
Both Joe Carr and Kevin Kookogey promised they'll drop out of the picture if tea partiers are rallying behind the other guy.

If the 7 conservatives running against Romney had simply gotten together in a room and had drawn straws to see which one of them would run and which would agree to drop out, then we could have had a Conservative candidate instead of Romney and quite possibly we could have had a Conservative president now.

My fear is that we are going to have 7 tea party conservatives all running against Christie and Christie will get the nomination by default. A lone liberal will always win over a half dozen conservatives.

24 posted on 09/01/2013 6:36:36 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: don-o

This is very, very, very good news! It means people are putting aside any selfish lust for power for the people’s sake, to remove a scheming, treacherous man from power.

We’ll split the vote in South Carolina so that Lindsey will be forced into a one on one contest against a conservative. And we’ll unite behind one candidate in Tennessee so Lamar will be forced into a one on one contest against a conservative.

We’re learning. And those in power are trembling!


25 posted on 09/01/2013 6:39:35 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Gaffer

Proof that the Tea Party has grown up to a real power.


26 posted on 09/01/2013 6:49:13 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Zathras
All things considered, should 2014 be very good for the Tea Party and Tea Party sentiment citizens, there is nothing more dear than I want to see is those pundits, operatives, journalists, politicos and apparatchiks literally choke on the words “tea bagger.”
27 posted on 09/01/2013 6:53:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: don-o

Ain’t that right Lamar? Woof. Good dog.


28 posted on 09/01/2013 7:16:06 AM PDT by mykroar (China and Russia are playing chess while Obamas's playing 52 card pick-up.)
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To: ronnie raygun; Venturer; txrefugee; don-o
If conservatives learn to back one challenger, instead of splitting their vote among several candidates, we are finally going to get some of these RINOs out of office.

If the old guard want to continue thier boot licking, a## kissing and decieving the American people let them jump over to the rats they’re rats in the making and behind closed doors anyway. Besides what is worse than a rat you know is a rat, a rat that you presieve to be on your side

ronnie raygun has the right view of the Republican Party as it has existed from the beginning. The Republican Party is the original Progressive Party; Teddy Roosevelt was the first Progressive president.

Ronald Reagan was despised by the establishment Republicans for the same reasons that the Tea Party Republicans are despised today. Reagan and the Tea Party both stand for smaller less intrusive government. These are not the real traditional Republican platform philosophy.

Consider GW Bush, he was touted as a conservative and yet he gave us the largest expansion of the welfare state since Medicare namely his Medicare Prescription Drug Plan. Hardly a conservative idea.

It is we the Tea Party Conservatives that are the Republicans In Name Only.

We must remember that we are the Revolutionary movement in the Republican Party. We should not be surprised that we are the less than welcome new comers to the Party so to speak. As revolutionaries we must be dedicated to the cause and must be willing suffer great hardship for the cause.

The revolutionaries that gave us our country vowed to give “Our Lives, Our Fortune, Our Sacred Honor” to secure the blessings of liberty to their posterity. If we are to do the same we will have to be willing to pledge the same.

We must demand of those that are to carry our banner that the surrender all personal ambitions of power and glory to the cause of recovering the blessings of liberty that have been usurped by an out of control Federal government.

29 posted on 09/01/2013 7:17:48 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

http://therealcnc.com/

Check it out. Good video at the top


30 posted on 09/01/2013 7:21:28 AM PDT by don-o (don-o - Member since August 30, 1998. Happy Anniversary to me!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Spot on PM. But, if the scenario that is promised for Tenn plays out, perhaps we have a model for what actually works as we approach 2016


31 posted on 09/01/2013 7:33:16 AM PDT by don-o (don-o - Member since August 30, 1998. Happy Anniversary to me!)
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To: don-o
Tenn is winner take all - so we MUST land on ONE challenger. S Carolina has runoff, so a case can be made for multiple challengers.

Then the real contest begins at the next level and deciding who to back as the races tighten. If Virgil Goode's name comes up again, I'm going to be sick at heart because it signals that we will never support anyone who has a chance to at least forestall the kind of evil that we allowed a second term. If we followed the same type strategy the Dims have been following, and take whatever small piece we can get away with, we might still recognize our country. Support the hell out of any upcoming Congress/Senate candidates that have any resemblance to Cruz, Lee and one or two others, and we might actually start to turn the tide while massaging the stage to eventually end up with some true Conservative Presidential candidates floating to the final ticket. Staying divided will drastically lessen the chance of such a scenario.

32 posted on 09/01/2013 7:50:36 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: txrefugee
If conservatives learn to back one challenger, instead of splitting their vote among several candidates,

If conservative candidates would back down when it is apparent that they have no chance of winning maybe it would be easier. We should all remember how we got Mittens on the ballot, when he was a 30% candidate.

If Newt had dropped out of some of the primaries where he knew he had no chance what so ever of winning, it could have denied delegates to Mitt, and set up a two man race which Newt very likely would have pulled of the win.

Vanity is destructive. All the conservatives(?) in the race should have had a summit wherein they all agreed the goal was defeating Obozo, but they didn't.

33 posted on 09/01/2013 7:56:41 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: itsahoot
If conservative candidates would back down when it is apparent that they have no chance of winning maybe it would be easier.

It would be easier still if voters would stop throwing away their votes on candidates who have no chance of winning. It really comes down to the voters. They're the reason ol' Lamar has been a senator for so long.


34 posted on 09/01/2013 8:08:25 AM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: Cinnamontea
They're the reason ol' Lamar has been a senator for so long.

Voters though they bare some responsibility, ask yourself what part the GOPe plays, when they have open primaries, allow Eastern States to decide for us whom we should have, and a host of rules changes they made at the last convention. In any three man race that does require an absolute majority, one of the candidates is likely to be supported covertly by the liberal in the race.

35 posted on 09/01/2013 8:22:05 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: AlexW

And THIS is why you are so disliked here.
You add NOTHING to the discussion, only snarky pokes
as if you are somehow more enlightened and therefore ‘better’ than anyone LEFT here in these United States WILLING to fight for a better future.

woof


36 posted on 09/01/2013 9:35:53 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: DuncanWaring; AllAmericanGirl44; wku man; NFHale; Marcella; knarf

“And THIS is why you are so disliked here.
You add NOTHING to the discussion, only snarky pokes
as if you are somehow more enlightened and therefore ‘better’ than anyone LEFT here in these United States WILLING to fight for a better future.”
______________________________________________________
Well, it is obvious that I am hated by the dogs who do not have the imagination or ability to run their own lives, and despise those of us that do. That is the meaning of the phrase. I certainly do not belittle any of you. You live the lives that you have chosen, but you humiliate yourselves by castigating those of us that are happy with ours.
I am certainly not the only Expat American on here. I have communications with many, and many more asking for information on international living.
What I would like is for you and the rest of those that resent my traveling explain to me what YOU are doing to fix America, other then castigating those of us that live our own lives. I know the real answer. You are not doing squat, other then grousing at those of us that do LIVE our lives.
You are angry because you know there is nothing that you can do, short of starting another civil war. That is why I call you “dogs in a manger”, or maybe you prefer a USSA that is like the old USSR.
They denied citizens the right to leave, and shot those that tried. I know much about it, as I lived in formerly Communist central Europe before moving here.
I have seen the gun ramps where soldiers shot those that tried to swim the Danube over to Austria. Is that what you want?
My final word to you...Get a life, live it and love it.


37 posted on 09/01/2013 4:48:10 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW; DuncanWaring; AllAmericanGirl44; wku man; NFHale; knarf

You gave up and left years ago - we didn’t, so butt out. Go post on a Philippine Government website.


38 posted on 09/01/2013 5:10:54 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: AlexW; AllAmericanGirl44; wku man; NFHale; Marcella; knarf

Nobody’s begrudging you the fact that you turned and ran; check the postings of other FReepers in the Phillipines - you’ll see that we leave them alone.

You, on the other hand, are essentially a back-seat driver; nobody likes them.


39 posted on 09/01/2013 5:21:27 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Marcella

“You gave up and left years ago”
______________________________________________
I did not give up anything, other then an Obamination.
I know, you would be just like the old Soviet guard, shooting those that choose to enjoy their own lives.

Answer the question, Marcella...

What are YOU, and the rest of those that resent my traveling, doing to fix America, other then castigating those of us that live our own lives. I know the real answer. You are not doing squat, other then spewing vile complaints, simply because I have a life, and you don’t.. We each have only one vote.
Now, you go take care of your own misery, and leave us freedom lovers alone. If I were there to share you misery, it would do absolutely NOTHING to help you or the country.
We would both be sucking off the same teat.
This is my last post to you and your fellow dogs. I have a life to live. I suggest that you go find yours.


40 posted on 09/01/2013 6:03:02 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW; DuncanWaring; wku man; NFHale; Marcella; knarf

A bit thick headed are you? Honestly, how about you tell me all the ways I sit here and bitch about my country all the while doing nothing, as you stated.

I don’t give a rats butt where you live, it’s your incessant pointing of your boney old finger that is tiring and useless here.

You remind me of a guy who sits on his boat watching another one sink. Smugly saying they should have gotten a better boat instead of getting off your a** to help them from drowning.

My 90 year Father, WWII Vet has more intelligence and dignity in his pinky finger than all the nonsense you post here. He imparts valuable knowledge to those around him, friends and strangers alike. That is what strength and honor looks like.

If your life is going great, I am happy for you, truly.
I have asked you in the past what your purpose is in coming here instead of living your life in the paradise you found?
To taunt? To annoy? To boast?

Your posts are nothing more that those of a man with an ego who understands little of the human condition. Even after having lived, as you say, under communism, you’d rather poke instead of offering sage wisdom. As I understand it, you are not a spring chicken. Instead you choose to annoy people you know nothing about. Unless you have evidence of who you are calling dogs here, or cowards which is what I’m reading between the lines, I believe you will receive the push back you are now protesting.

I hold zero ‘resentment’ for your choice to exit. How very coy of you to put words in my mouth. As for your query of ‘evidence’ of what I or others are doing, guess what pal, IF you were here I would share it all with you, but see you are so very far away and you can’t/won’t help so I can’t take the time and energy to inform you on the many things I’ve chosen to do for what I believe in. Kinda like the kool aid drinkers, not much worth in trying to explain something as foreign to them as personal freedom for all, and what it takes.


41 posted on 09/01/2013 10:44:38 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

“If your life is going great, I am happy for you, truly.
I have asked you in the past what your purpose is in coming here instead of living your life in the paradise you found?
To taunt? To annoy? To boast?”
____________________________________________________
No, you are not at all happy for me. You are just another of the handful of Dogs in a Manger that are very bitter that I am enjoying my retirement in various countries, and you are obviously suffering under the Obamination.
I am not poking my finger at anyone. It is you and your small gang of angry thugs that should be looking in the mirror. I have not seen one word about what you and your gang are doing to save America. In fact, there is nothing YOU or any of your gang can do to save the country that now seems to be lusting for socialism. None of you can fight the majority. All WE have is a vote.
I am here, and have been here and active on FR far longer then you, and I have helped other FReepers with information about expat living. I also refer them to other links and sites for information. I have not boasted or taunted anyone. You, on the other hand, obviously has an anger problem.
I am not a wealthy man, and frankly, I could not live in the USSA on what funds I have.
Now, you go and enjoy your own life, if that is possible, and I will enjoy mine.
At least you are a spunky chick, hahaha


42 posted on 09/02/2013 12:12:35 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
Is this DU ?

I must'a took a left turn unawares.

43 posted on 09/02/2013 5:03:21 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: don-o

Does the Tea Party have an official logo .. T-shirts .. other regalia ?


44 posted on 09/02/2013 5:12:51 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

I am not conversant with the Tea Party at all.

http://therealcnc.com/

Where a donation can get a Beat Lamar! T shirt


45 posted on 09/02/2013 6:17:18 AM PDT by don-o (don-o - Member since August 30, 1998. Happy Anniversary to me!)
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To: AlexW; DuncanWaring; AllAmericanGirl44; wku man; NFHale; Marcella; knarf
Some interesting comments from seasoned FReepers (and others) that reflect on the topic being discussed here especially after the first 20 or so posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3061552/posts

We're comparative moments away from shit or get off the pot (imo) and those of us that don't move easily, quickly nor well are more in the way than an asset.

If the feds hadn't disarmed me, and you talked to me like you talk to Alex, I'd be hard pressed not to cap your asses

46 posted on 09/02/2013 7:29:09 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf; AlexW

Nice try.

The thread you referenced only has 16 posts.

Apparently you’re a “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will do me even more harm” kind of guy.

If AlexW wants to live in the Phillipines, that’s fine with me, but he needs to quit calling the rest of us idiots for not following him.


47 posted on 09/02/2013 7:37:21 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: knarf
If the feds hadn't disarmed me,...

Oh, by the way ... have you never heard of "private sale"?

48 posted on 09/02/2013 7:39:37 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: don-o
Integrity !

Imagine THAT !

49 posted on 09/02/2013 7:41:19 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: DuncanWaring
Yeah ... apparently people aren't concerned with forced blood draw ....

20 years ago I would never had thought we'd be in the condition we're in today.

We can wait for 2014 ... then .. 2016 .... then I'll be 3 years older, even MORE decrepid than I am now and what if ... what if ... I wake up Nov 6 (or whatEVER day follows election .. ) and I see ourselves no better, perhaps worse ..

Look into your crystal balls and see what you can determine about the future ... no? ... ok ... look into the past ... )

Do you turn off the TV when they show those retirees enjoying golf in NC or Fla or wherever, or do you subliminally think .. "Geez .. it sure would be nice ... sighhhh .. )

I'm married to a Filipina and the Philippines is a tropical paradise, with an economy a smart American could get involved in and make some money ... AND enjoy the weather and easy pace.

ALL talk does not necesarily need to be backed up with action ... I don't think Plato was a warrior nor Rockwell a politician ... but they both contributed to the understanding a man needs to live free.

ALL words today can, like good preaching, have a positive affect on our ways of life.

BUT ... like good preaching ... too many whom call themselves American and Patriot NEVER listen to someone tell THEM what to think ... no SIR.

Maranatha

50 posted on 09/02/2013 7:51:48 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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