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John Kerry: US has proof that sarin gas used in Syria
Daily Telegraph ^ | 1 September, 2013 | Harriet Alexander, and agencies

Posted on 09/01/2013 11:02:08 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy

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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I just realized that you don’t know what freedom of the press even means. Amazing that an adult living in America does not understand the concept, but considering the ideas crashing around in some brains I shouldn’t be surprised, I suppose.

I will help you out.

You lose freedom of the press when the government controls the media. While I despise the FCC and see no reason for its existence, its power to prevent the dissemination of news about America in America is next to nothing.

You write of Pravda as a shining example of freedom of the press, seeming not to understand that this is not a discussion about one country telling truth about another country but about the country it operates in. You really don’t understand that?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_press
Look at the chart in the above to get a better grasp of the concept so you can discuss it intelligently with others.


151 posted on 09/04/2013 2:19:09 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic
You lose freedom of the press when the government controls the media.

Exactly. We have that problem.

152 posted on 09/04/2013 4:57:38 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: sakic
I just realized that you don’t know what freedom of the press even means.

Of course I do, don't be insulting.

Amazing that an adult living in America does not understand the concept, but considering the ideas crashing around in some brains I shouldn’t be surprised, I suppose.

Again, don't be insulting.

I will help you out.

You are the one that doesn't get it.

You lose freedom of the press when the government controls the media.

No kidding.

While I despise the FCC and see no reason for its existence, its power to prevent the dissemination of news about America in America is next to nothing.

The FCC!!!??? Fogettabout that....

What about the well detailed and obvious multiple FAMILY connections between major news organization executives and key top figures in the White House. Not to mention the likes of Chris Matthews, Stepinawfulpis etc...RAT political hacks all.

You write of Pravda as a shining example of freedom of the press...

I don't know about that, but they blow the doors off our RATagandists when it comes to coverage of stories embarrassing to the progressive criminals currently occupying Washington.

seeming not to understand that this is not a discussion about one country telling truth about another country but about the country it operates in.

Says who? This thread is about:

John Kerry: US has proof that sarin gas used in Syria

You really don’t understand that?

Not only do I understand it, I don't care.

It's a petty niggling point about a former cherished concept that no longer exists in the US....Freedom of the Press AND Freedom of Speech....not to mention Freedom of Religion....ALL guaranteed in the First Amendment.

Pravda and other unlikely foreign news outlets serve us far better than the censored and willing progressive US "media" who berate, mock, demonize and otherwise do anything in their power to delegitimize Republicans (except RINOs) conservative individuals (Teabaggers) people of faith, businesses, industries and the entire concept of American exceptionalism.

Any "free press" that does happen to bleed through with some semblence of fact to it is either completely ignored bu the RATagandists, or given the above treatment as fauxnews or basically called liars.

This in stark contrast to your god Dan "fake but accurate" Rather et al and the daily output of bilge designed to totally mislead the American people, and protect the Messiah in the White House.

Yes, the communists have absolutely taken over our "free press" but it certainly isn't Russia or Pravda doing it. Don't worry about my ability to discuss it intelligently with others, the "free press" is dead!

The lamestream media, fascist press has co-opted their offices, have zero credibility with other than low-information voters and are quickly losing ground, credibility and operating revenue.

They can't GO TO HELL fast enough!

153 posted on 09/04/2013 5:45:22 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

You wrote a lot of words but still don’t understand what freedom of the press means.

Name any media outlets benied denied access to express their ideas.

Chris Matthews works for the government because he is a lib? All of Fox is working for Obama?

How can I not be insulting to pure nonsense.


154 posted on 09/04/2013 8:49:42 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic
You wrote a lot of words but still don’t understand what freedom of the press means.

Don't tell me what I don't understand. We simply don't have it at this time.

Which of these things do the RATs not control?

Virtually all departments of government; federal, state, and local (unions) and especially the IRS.

Virtually all public schools, colleges and universities (unions and 60s radical professors) including schools of "journalism"

Virtually all of entertainment.

Virtually every city.

The Federal executive branch and the Senate, and a good percentage of the House including RINOs.

These "reporters" don't have to be coerced, bribed, or even asked what to bias, cover or ignore. As can be seen from the co-opted institutions above, they've been trained from childhood exactly how to be good soldiers for the cause....progressive socialism.

Yeah right, we have a free press....when Republicans accidentally win an election.

155 posted on 09/04/2013 6:39:31 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Again you blather on saying there is no freedom of the press and go on to prove your assertion by discussing everything but freedom of the press.

What does control of unions have to do with the topic?

For the third time, can you cite one example of suppression of a free press?

If not, continue to chatter on. Maybe the fact that the Patriots keep winning their division is proof there is no free press, or because Twinkies were dropped as a product, or because there are lizards in Florida, or because frozen water is colder than boiling water.

Anyone who believes there is more freedom of the press in Russia than in America is a few cards short of a deck.

I hate the way our government operates but that doesn’t mean that round is squre and square is round. Get a grip and focus on the real problems we all face instead of living in a frothing delusion.


156 posted on 09/04/2013 7:01:34 PM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic
What does control of unions have to do with the topic?

Unions run the government.

For the third time, can you cite one example of suppression of a free press?

Death threats to Hannity, Beck....Brietbart dead. White House asking news organizations to spike stories.

The "coincidental" blood or marriage relationships between top Executive Branch members and top members of the press.

Get a grip and focus on the real problems we all face instead of living in a frothing delusion.

Why do you think this website exists...because we believe your freakin "free press"?

Now you answer a question.

You're a RATagandist aren't you?

157 posted on 09/04/2013 7:32:57 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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We are in complete agreement that our govt is incredibly corrupt.

Yes, there have been death threats on conservative voices, but there are death threats on liberal voices. Is it your contention that a liberal govt wants to suppress a liberal media? Are you saying that the govt is making death threats against Hannitty? Don’t you understand that these threats help rather than hinder his ratings?

You can call me whatever you like but I stand by my statement that freedom of the press here dwarves its counterpart in Russia. This is indisputable to anyone with a brain.

Since you think that logic makes you a Rat, I will throw out the theory that you wish to make a supposed conservative to appear to be a loon in order to discredit conservatism.

See, it’s easy to make things up on the Internet.

The prez is a criminal. Congress is awash in criminals, but rather than focus on this you have concocted nonsensical notions that Russia has more freedoms than us. Amazing stuff.


158 posted on 09/05/2013 9:19:50 AM PDT by sakic
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there have been death threats on conservative voices, but there are death threats on liberal voices. Is it your contention that a liberal govt wants to suppress a liberal media?

No, liberal govt...liberal press...they're the same thing. They're lying about death threats to demonize conservatives. RATs lie about everything.

Are you saying that the govt is making death threats against Hannitty?

Are you saying that they aren't? It's probably the Purple People Beaters.

I stand by my statement that freedom of the press here dwarves its counterpart in Russia.

Yeah, too bad hardly anyone here is utilizing that freedom to criticize Obama. We get way more truth out of Russian news than out of our own so-called media.

you have concocted nonsensical notions that Russia has more freedoms than us.

Well they certainly blow our doors off when it comes to Economic Freedom, with their flat tax, versus our "progressive" income tax, PLUS out Highest Corporate Tax IN THE WORLD!

This WAS America.

159 posted on 09/05/2013 6:49:28 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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Since you believe that Russia beats us hands-down on freedom of the press and quality of life, why not move there?

I have been there. You have not. After a couple weeks there you would do anything to return.

Are you sure you’re not a random word generator? Check the manual.


160 posted on 09/06/2013 1:33:18 PM PDT by sakic
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Since you believe that Russia beats us hands-down on freedom of the press and quality of life,

I don't believe that.

I put more stock in their reporting on US issues. I do not believe the US media.

I know Russia's tax system puts ours to shame.

161 posted on 09/06/2013 4:33:20 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

In other words, you don’t have a clue what freedom of the press means, something that I have maintained throughout our exchange. There is little point in explaining it to you again.


162 posted on 09/07/2013 5:30:51 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic
There you go again, defending the indefensible. You're a urinalist aren't you.

you don’t have a clue what freedom of the press means

I know it when I see it...which is damn scarce.

163 posted on 09/07/2013 5:46:03 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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