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To: Hoodat

I grew up in the LA Harbor Area, and had countless friends who’s fathers were longshoremen...and I can tell you absolutely yes, that it is one of the WORST unions in the country. Makes the AFL-CIO look like pikers.

For starters, the docs employ about 4 times the people that are really needed to run the port. Not only will the ILWU not allow anything in the form of layoffs, they demand that any longshoreman’s son has a RIGHT to a job, and we’re talking starting $100k per year jobs here.

On top of that, like clockwork, they shut down the port every 3 years to demand raises. There are actually longshoremen that plan vacations for the month or so the port will be shut down, knowing that they are going to walk in to back pay for the time lost AND a fat raise when they return.

Finally, its become such a racket that children of longshoremen are often gang members because they barely attend high school. If you know you’ve got a guaranteed 6 figure job when you turn 18, what is the use of studying 11th grade history? So they hang out and party, and over the past 30 years the young gangsters have infested the waterfront.

This is setting up for a tragedy soon. There is a large port being built south of Tijuana, with a railhead into Kansas City. Once fully operational, ships and the owners of the docks can simply shift business south, and the port of LA will start to whither....and you will have thousands of uneducated, highly specialized unemployed with six figure lifestyles with no prospects...oh and a lot of them have criminal backgrounds. Aint that going to be sweet.

My guess is that this move is to allow them to “mend fences” with other long shore unions up and down the west coast, to try to coordinate a massive strike when the Tijuana docks come on line.


12 posted on 09/01/2013 7:49:29 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: SoCalTransplant

I was living in Long Beach during one of those strikes. I’d ride my bike along the beach and look out onto the water and see those big ships just sitting out there, waiting to dock.


14 posted on 09/01/2013 8:38:05 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: SoCalTransplant
My guess is that this move is to allow them to “mend fences” with other long shore unions up and down the west coast, to try to coordinate a massive strike when the Tijuana docks come on line.

Good guess. My take is that either they do it before the Tijuana port can handle the volume or they'll lose.

16 posted on 09/01/2013 8:43:27 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: SoCalTransplant

Wow. That makes the UFCW I was in seem like cute fluffy kittens. At least they would stop trying to get your job back after the 3rd time getting caught stealing on camera.


17 posted on 09/01/2013 9:22:38 PM PDT by matt04
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To: SoCalTransplant

Oh, my. Something’s bound to hit an oscillating device somewhere.


18 posted on 09/01/2013 10:00:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SoCalTransplant

Colonet is a small Mexican Pacific coastal village located approximately 150 miles south of Tijuana in Baja California. Historically, this area’s economy has relied on agriculture and tourism. For the past five years, excitement and speculation has centered on Punta Colonet, as the Mexican government has announced that it will build a new Pacific seaport at this site.

The scope of the project is enormous by world standards. According to Mexican government reports, the port will be designed to handle six million containers annually at final build-out. In terms of processing volume, it will be larger than the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach combined. When completed, the site is projected to encompass an area of more than 27,000 acres, or slightly more than 42 square miles. It will be the third largest seaport in the world, behind only Singapore and Hong Kong. It is estimated that between 90,000 and 200,000 people, a small city, will be needed to operate the port facilities.

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I thought this port was going to be further south with rail and Hiway connections up through Texas into the heartland and points east.


29 posted on 09/02/2013 4:33:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: SoCalTransplant

Im reading this and wondering if there’s a suitable port in Mexico. Thanks for the answer and obvious solution to the uneconomic Longshoreman. Time’s a’ tickin on them....


34 posted on 09/02/2013 5:49:48 AM PDT by major-pelham
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