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Japan vows quick action, public funds for Fukushima (disaster)
Reuters ^ | Sept. 2, 2013 | Sumio Ito and Mari Saito

Posted on 09/02/2013 4:38:23 AM PDT by Broker

(Reuters) - Japan vowed quick, decisive action, including the use of public funds, to tackle the worsening problem of contaminated water pouring from the wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant, as the authorities step in to help the facility's embattled operator.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said the government "will step forward and implement all necessary policies" to deal with the flood of radioactive water from the plant, a legacy of the world's worst atomic disaster in a quarter century.

The government will present a "comprehensive package of measures" on the water problem as soon as Tuesday, a senior official said.

Tokyo's measures come amid proposals to create a government agency devoted to decommissioning the Fukushima plant and as some outside the government call for a break-up of the operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co, or Tepco.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: japan; nuclear; pacific; radiation
This is a truly frightening development. A catastrophic crisis in the making.

Read more here: Fukushima's radioactive ocean plume due to reach US waters in 2014 Jeremy Hsu LiveScience http://t.nbcnews.com/science/fukushimas-radioactive-ocean-plume-due-reach-us-waters-2014-8C11050755

The entire Pacific Ocean is in jeopardy from tons & tons of daily radiation contamination. The Japanese government is powerless to stop it.

1 posted on 09/02/2013 4:38:23 AM PDT by Broker
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To: Broker

At this point what are they calling “quick?”


2 posted on 09/02/2013 4:41:01 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Broker

God has blessed this planet with remarkable healing powers. Still, I would expect a surge in Atlantic and farm-raised seafood from all of this.


3 posted on 09/02/2013 4:45:22 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: Broker

Just as frightening is the fact that they have been blubbering along for over 2 years now knowing full well what sort of mess this is.


4 posted on 09/02/2013 4:47:45 AM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Broker
They really need to do something about this.

Anything.

5 posted on 09/02/2013 4:48:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Artie
Both the government and the utility hoped this disaster would cure itself.
6 posted on 09/02/2013 4:50:44 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: OrangeHoof

Chemical half life on radioactive material is eternal relative to ours. The pearly gates might get more crowded from this.


7 posted on 09/02/2013 5:02:22 AM PDT by Broker (Oath Keeper)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Elsewhere, have read Alaskan sea like is suffering. Sea lions, King Crabs.


8 posted on 09/02/2013 5:04:10 AM PDT by Broker (Oath Keeper)
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To: arthurus
At this point what are they calling “quick?”

As fast as a government agency is able to respond. FEMA-quick. Like, really fast. Imagine molasses instead of ketchup.

9 posted on 09/02/2013 5:42:34 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: arthurus

The Pacific Ocean will be off-limits for commercial fishing, very soon. Unless you like glow-in-the-dark sushi. Better take a Geiger Counter to any seafood joint...


10 posted on 09/02/2013 6:06:24 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Broker
The entire Pacific Ocean is in jeopardy from tons & tons of daily radiation contamination.

Methinks you underestimate the size of the Pacific Ocean. Most of those "tons and tons" is water. The actual mass of radioactive isotopes is relatively small. Just because a contaminant is detectable doesn't mean it is unsafe; in fact, low levels of radiation can even be beneficial to human health in some cases. And your expertise in support of this contention is... what?

11 posted on 09/02/2013 7:29:42 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Even with full dilution the result is pretty bad. But you don’t take into account that there is not always full dilution. Sometimes pockets of radioactive particles get concentrated and stay together...Even travel together in the ocean.


12 posted on 09/02/2013 7:38:38 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It will in about 75000 years or so.

Until then.....


13 posted on 09/02/2013 7:52:21 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Revel
But you don’t take into account that there is not always full dilution.

No, you don't take into account that I took that into account. I never said that there wouldn't be eddies and pools that concentrate wastes. I said that there is no way "the ENTIRE Pacific Ocean" would be contaminated. For example, the mixing along the equatorial countercurrents is relatively small, making an effective boundary between the northern and southern Pacific gyres. Hence, the coast of Chile would be relatively safe. Therefore, this would not affect "the entire Pacific Ocean, but would contaminate local concentrations above hazardous thresholds with the rest in various states of dilution.

Sometimes pockets of radioactive particles get concentrated and stay together...Even travel together in the ocean.

Laminar flow of a mass body, who'd a thunk it. /s Stop with the projections, OK?

14 posted on 09/02/2013 8:40:01 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie

My credentials are impeccable. Head bung-hole of exalted tribe of Folkowwee nuclear astrophysians. Like any common Joe, I am an alarmist and paranoid conspiracy nut. Big deal.

The extent of Fukushima radiation voided into Pacific Ocean Is truly shocking. A horrific magnitude of toxic material is being dispersed into Alaska bound currents. Finally after two years of the Japanese government is taking charge. Let them have luck containing 450 day ton flow of radioactive waste. Waste so toxic the shoreline water constantly boils and steams.

Yes, this problem needs thorough evaluation, definition and a viable solution. Uncontrolled Radiation will be consequential, how when and where are questions for brighter bulbs to see. Casual observers recognize a tsunami when they see one.


15 posted on 09/02/2013 8:46:56 AM PDT by Broker (MSM WHERE ARE U)
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To: Broker
A horrific magnitude of toxic material is being dispersed into Alaska bound currents.

Assertion without quantitative data.

Casual observers recognize a tsunami when they see one.

The "tsunami" (Japanese for "tidal wave") released by the earthquake was far more energy than is released by a nuclear reactor. Chances are, it will also end up causing more deaths too. Your problem is differentiating "natural" disasters from any other kind. It is a failure to maintain perspective.

Waste so toxic the shoreline water constantly boils and steams.

This is an apples and oranges statement. The decomposition of radioactive byproducts produces heat. The boiling is indicative of the toxic potential, but is by no means a quantitative metric. I suggest you let "cooler heads" prevail.

16 posted on 09/02/2013 9:40:51 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Thanks for insightful dismissal professor. Cooler heads won’t go near Fukushima.


17 posted on 09/02/2013 10:51:10 AM PDT by Broker (MSM WHERE ARE U)
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To: Broker
Cooler heads won’t go near Fukushima.

Oh and upon whom are you relying to deal with it? Guess what crybaby, it's part of the job. Maybe you'd prefer atmospheric mercury from coal.

If it weren't for ignorant screamers like you, Fukushima would have been replaced by a newer and safer design long before the earthquake.

18 posted on 09/02/2013 11:05:13 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Delta 21

BOY took 13 replies on FR somebody throw in Godzilla take

Freepers you are slippin


19 posted on 09/02/2013 11:41:26 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Broker

Here Here!

FYI, the first info I saw about these latest revelations was at the bottom of the website for my hometown newsie —

in the SPANISH language section. Muchas gracias, Union-Tribune!


20 posted on 09/02/2013 12:27:48 PM PDT by stisidore (MM, let's see here)
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To: Carry_Okie

More wailing moans for my professorial pachinko Pokemon, American nuclear safety is supported by USN nerds at INPO. http://www.inpo.info/

Our Mission
Our mission at the Institute of Nuclear Power Operations (INPO) is to promote the highest levels of safety and reliability – to promote excellence – in the operation of commercial nuclear power plants.
We work to achieve our mission by:
Establishing performance objectives, criteria and guidelines for the nuclear power industry
Conducting regular detailed evaluations of nuclear power plants
Providing assistance to help nuclear power plants continually improve their performance.

Nipponese nuclear standards were obviously deficient. Alarmists like me are ringing the big sepiku warning bell.


21 posted on 09/02/2013 2:37:02 PM PDT by Broker (MSM WHERE ARE U)
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To: stisidore

Yes, this is a buried issue refuted and denied. Shoot the messenger mentality abounds for concerned alarmists. What little we know has my total attention. This is unprecedented and consequential .


22 posted on 09/02/2013 2:44:11 PM PDT by Broker (MSM WHERE ARE U)
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To: Carry_Okie

I knew better to than to respond to you. I admit that in that I was pretty stupid.


23 posted on 09/02/2013 4:20:44 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel; Broker; GladesGuru
I knew better to than to respond to you. I admit that in that I was pretty stupid.

You're too modest... It should have been obvious to you that the specific reason I took on Broker's bogus assertion that "the ENTIRE Pacific Ocean is in jeopardy from tons & tons of daily radiation contamination" was that I understood that the distribution of contaminants would be non-uniform. Yet somehow you turned that presumption into ignorance of the fact. Instead of reading the post carefully to be sure about what I was saying, you leaped on the "opportunity" to correct me and got busted, again. Too bad for you that I had taken college courses in oceanology and fluid dynamics. Little did you know, as usual.

I've been handing you your hat for sophomoric environmental contentions for thirteen years. So keep trying; some day I will make a mistake and you'll get your big chance.

24 posted on 09/03/2013 8:44:55 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Broker
Nipponese nuclear standards were obviously deficient.

The reactor was scheduled for decommissioning. It was old technology. The reason old reactors are run past their design lives virtually worldwide is that it is so difficult to permit newer and safer technology, thanks to people like you.

Alarmists like me are ringing the big sepiku warning bell.

You first.

The biggest funders of anti-nuclear power generation are the major stockholders of oil and gas interests. They also oppose fracking, Rockefeller, Pew, W. Alton Jones... all of them.

25 posted on 09/03/2013 8:49:18 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Thanks for clarifying this issue.


26 posted on 09/03/2013 2:21:37 PM PDT by Broker (Red Flag)
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