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Terrorists Won the War on Terror; 74% of Pakistanis View US as Enemy,
Townhall.com ^ | September 2, 2013 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 09/02/2013 4:42:31 AM PDT by Kaslin

Eric Tillberg, writer on Policy Mic says The War On Terror is Over, and the Terrorists Won.

After the first two shots of the War on Terror on September 11, 2001, the first major battle of the war occurred, and was lost, on October 26, 2001. This was the day the PATRIOT Act was signed into law by President Bush.

Terrorists, by killing 3,000 people in a spectacular fashion, goaded the United States into compromising its values and betraying its citizens.

As a followup, the terrorists won another victory with the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security on November 25, 2002. This department gives a much more menacing facade to the federal government and proved to be the moment when American citizens got the idea that they were viewed as the enemy by their own government.

Defeats continued with the establishment of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), representing an increase in funding for an already bloated (and misnamed) Department of Defense. By this point, the American idea was on life support with little hope of reversal. The final blow that rang the bell of defeat for our nation was PRISM. Although PRISM began in 2007, we have only recently learned of its existence thanks to Edward Snowden.

The defeat of America in the War on Terror provides an excellent explanation for the resurgence of libertarian politics at home. It is a natural reaction, when one no longer trusts the government, to demand the right to keep and use arms and to demand that the government extract itself from most if not all aspects of our lives.

We don't only have to look internally to see that the terrorists have won. Al-Qaeda has not gone away and has not been obliterated. In this grand game of whack-a-mole, the moles see our weakening resolve to preserve ourselves and are encouraged by it. The passage of these laws must be seen as propagandistic victories to the terrorists and undoubtedly help in their recruitment. We must rediscover the American idea and begin living by it once again. This would be the best way to turn the tide on the War on Terror.
Pakistan and US Drone Policy

Shortly after 911, the US had support of the vast majority of Pakistani citizens. Polls now show only 55% unfavorable attitude towards Al Qaeda even as support dwindles elsewhere.



74% of Pakistanis View US as an Enemy

A PEW Research survey on Global Attitudes shows 74% of Pakistanis Call America an Enemy.
Roughly three-in-four Pakistanis (74%) consider the U.S. an enemy, up from 69% last year and 64% three years ago. And President Obama is held in exceedingly low regard. Indeed, among the 15 nations surveyed in both 2008 and 2012 by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, Pakistan is the only country where ratings for Obama are no better than the ratings President George W. Bush received during his final year in office.

Moreover, roughly four-in-ten believe that American economic and military aid is actually having a negative impact on their country, while only about one-in-ten think the impact is positive.

Only 17% back American drone strikes against leaders of extremist groups, even if they are conducted in conjunction with the Pakistani government.
Pakistani Views of US, Obama



Unwinnable War

Terror is a method. It is not possible to win a war on a method.

And because US drone policy kills many innocent people as did senseless invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, more people resent US aggression now, than before 911.

Place yourself in the shoes of the average Pakistani who has lost a friend or family member in drone attacks. Would you think the US was an enemy? Of course you would.

Would you view those drone attacks as an act of terror? Of course you would. The US is making enemies hand over fist with its drone policy (which itself is an act of terror killing innocent civilians along the way).

How can you when a war on method, especially when you use the method yourself?

Is Obama another Bush Clone?

Please also see Is Obama Another Bush Clone? Another Nixon Clone?



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: barackobama; dronestrikes; pakistan; wot
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The rest of the title is: 60% Have No Confidence in Obama
1 posted on 09/02/2013 4:42:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Of they have.

THEIR AGENT (Obama) runs the US as an Impostor,
and the Congress and MSM could not care less.

THEIR AGENT (Huma) works in the StateDept to
transfer MANPADs, SAMs, and WMD to them,
and the Congress and MSM could not care less.

The Pentagon bows down and SERVES them
after they bombed the Pentagon - even though
the American people are FURIOUS,
and the Congress and MSM could not care less.


2 posted on 09/02/2013 4:48:48 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Kaslin
Terrorists Won the War on Terror; 74% of Pakistanis View US as Enemy,

That's kind of goofy way of looking at it. I didn't know the measure of your victory was how the home of your enemy views you.

3 posted on 09/02/2013 4:53:31 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Kaslin

that’s ok. a very high percentage of Americans see Americans as the enemy. I’d guess 80%.

of course, which Americans is the trick. 0bama and the progressives see anyone on the right as the enemy ... and those of us on the right see them as the enemy. which leaves 10-20% sitting in the middle


4 posted on 09/02/2013 4:54:44 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Kaslin

I would be all for evacuating Christians from Pakistan, then turning that landmass to glass. What a worthless horde of subhumans...


5 posted on 09/02/2013 4:55:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Kaslin
So .. ?
6 posted on 09/02/2013 4:57:02 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat

So we should stop giving our “ally” billions of dollars.


7 posted on 09/02/2013 4:59:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Kaslin

Well Yeah! Their Muslim. Until we go full sharia we are their enemy. Time to wake up to what the Muslim world really is about.


8 posted on 09/02/2013 5:00:12 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Diogenesis

We should probably give Obama another Nobel Peace Prize.


9 posted on 09/02/2013 5:00:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Kaslin

> The rest of the title is: 60% Have No Confidence in Obama

The only reason the number isn’t higher is because they don’t live here. If they did, ii would be in the 90’s


10 posted on 09/02/2013 5:00:25 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: ClearCase_guy

Absolutely.


11 posted on 09/02/2013 5:00:45 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: ScottinVA

Most of them are far more educated than the subhumans we are currently drowning in.


12 posted on 09/02/2013 5:02:02 AM PDT by kneehurts
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To: ClearCase_guy
So we should stop giving our “ally” billions of dollars.

To say the least!

13 posted on 09/02/2013 5:05:43 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: ScottinVA

But, look... most of them wouldn’t have voted for Obama.


14 posted on 09/02/2013 5:10:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("No one on earth has any other way left but -- upward.” - Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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15 posted on 09/02/2013 5:10:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: PapaNew

Wait - did Ron Paul write this headline under a different name?


16 posted on 09/02/2013 5:11:27 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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Foreign Affairs Committee chairman of the Russian Duma, Aleksey Pushkov is the source for “Is Obama Another Bush Clone? Another Nixon Clone?”


17 posted on 09/02/2013 5:12:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Kaslin

I couldn’t care less what the Paki’s think.

We lost the so-called war on terror when it was turned on us. Remember to show Your Papers, Please.


18 posted on 09/02/2013 5:15:18 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat
19 replies before it showed up.

Our lives are manipulated by fear ... which is a play on terror.

Entrepreneurship is way down because people are afraid (or foresighted enough) to get involved with more than what a profit margin would allow.

People go to the airport expecting humiliation, getting it and not talking about it afterwards .... good sheeple.

The internet and cel industry is chock FULL of surveillance and people don't care 'cause THEY ain't doin' nuthin' wrong ... which makes this even more apropos;


'Trouble is ... the surveilers are equally zombatic.

19 posted on 09/02/2013 5:25:49 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Yep! If we could find a set, maybe we could start acting like Americans instead of braying sheep. Amazing how 9-11 SCARED THE BACKBONE out of us. OH, save me, protect me, I’m so scared of the big, bad terrorist I will cower in a corner until the big goverment protector will tell me it is safe to live free again.

As long as it is possible for one terrorist to set off a cooking pot somewhere, all of America shall sit in the corner in a time out.


20 posted on 09/02/2013 5:44:03 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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