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REPORT: NSA SPIED ON LEADERS OF BRAZIL, MEXICO
AP ^ | 9/2/13 | BRADLEY BROOKS

Posted on 09/02/2013 5:30:30 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) -- The National Security Agency's spy program targeted the communications of the Brazilian and Mexican presidents, and in the case of Mexico's leader accessed the content of emails before he was elected, the U.S. journalist who obtained secret documents from NSA leaker Edward Snowden said Sunday.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mexico

1 posted on 09/02/2013 5:30:30 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

So? It’s their job...


2 posted on 09/02/2013 5:33:36 AM PDT by Netz
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To: ConservativeMan55

Ok.. so at the risk of putting on the tin foil..

This Snowden stuff just makes me very suspicious.

This guy was able to pull this off and the United States, with all of its power and connections could not put this guy in jail?

I’m calling Bull. There’s more to this. Snowden is discrediting and pissing off every single country at The United States.

The result will be that we will lose respect and standing in the world. JUST what Obama wants.

In addition to that, at some point the U.N. will make hay of it and the United States will be told it is out of control, etc and that we need some sort of monitors, etc.

Remember: “I’ll have more flexibility after my election”


3 posted on 09/02/2013 5:34:08 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Netz

I’m not disagreeing with you here.

Every country does this. Snowden is discrediting us.

Like someone said a while back. Every country does this, and every country knows that every country does this.

But when it’s put out in public.. it has a very negative impact.


4 posted on 09/02/2013 5:35:45 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55
Wikileaks and Snowden always reveal data that is damaging to the West. That is their central function tear down the West. When was the last time these leak-types released data on, say, Bulgaria, Iraq, Syria?
OK, so the English language is the key here but these leak types always do damage to free, open (more or less) societies, in order to do bring them down.
I'd like to see somebody similar to Snowden, maybe a Russian or Arab leak bad details about their societies...oh wait, I forgot, they’d be hunted down and killed...
5 posted on 09/02/2013 5:44:19 AM PDT by Netz
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To: ConservativeMan55
duh....lotsa stories about vehicles, rooms and bugs....it's what all countries do...

Bet there's even bugs on golf courses....:-)

6 posted on 09/02/2013 5:48:01 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ConservativeMan55

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/bug-and-camera-found-in-putins-top-foes-office.aspx?pageID=238&nID=27266&NewsCatID=353


7 posted on 09/02/2013 5:49:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ConservativeMan55

I’m not concerned about the NSA targeting communications of foreign leaders.

But I am very concerned about them spying on American citizens. I’m even more concerned about losing our democracy because a leader in chief can spy on Congress, Americans, reporters, etc for political reasons.. As Huckabee said this destroys our democracy.


8 posted on 09/02/2013 5:54:36 AM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: Sacajaweau

They claim that every smart phone is a bug, on or off the golf course.


9 posted on 09/02/2013 5:59:43 AM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: apoliticalone

“But I am very concerned about them spying on American citizens.”

Exactly right. NSA has the mission of spying on everyone but Americans. Their lying about spying on Americans - either directly, or indirectly through “agreements” with other countries is particularly disturbing.

What this will do is galvanize countries to control their own communications infrastructure. Smart ones will do just that. Things will be less interconnected, and US firms will lose business as it becomes clear they are for the most part paid informants to the NSA.

I have to believe that some of the largest internet companies, and indeed, the growth strategy and architecture of the internet itself was directed to benefit surveillance.

Government can never control itself, and never will.

So to add to your point, yes, I’m very concerned about the spying on American citizens. I’m more concerned with how they were comfortable lying about it. I’m even further concerned by the lack of consequences for their admitted lying about it.

Why is Clapper not behind bars, for instance?

No doubt, NSA is involved in political activities. No doubt they have the ability to impact politics - and since government cannot restrain itself, no doubt they’ve used it.

So who goes to jail for this?


10 posted on 09/02/2013 6:24:42 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: ConservativeMan55

If it’s true our military spied on leaders of Brazil and Mexico, good, I’m glad they did. I’d expect nothing less.


11 posted on 09/02/2013 6:26:07 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: apoliticalone

Well, a smart phone can be a bug if its firmware has been altered.

The government has access to the source code for cellphones and smart phones...this is certain. The reason it is certain is that you must have that source code to modify a smart phone to add ECC/AES public key encryption abilities to the phone. With that level of encryption the phone becomes as secure as the older STU3 secure phones. You see government officials using smart phones all the time, even the president has one. These phones are secure.

Another thing you can do with access to the source code is operate a smart phone out-of-band. An encrypted smartphone moved out of the cellular bands becomes an instant satellite phone that can operate using the array of NRO satellites.

A smartphone is an incredibly complex and powerful device.
It is a combination of a powerful ARM based computer linked to a software defined transceiver with audio, video and data functions.


12 posted on 09/02/2013 7:02:34 AM PDT by Bobalu (Bobo the Wonder Marxist leads Operation Rodeo Clown against Syria)
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To: Netz
So? It’s their job...

Precisely! And they spy on us. Duh!

13 posted on 09/02/2013 7:04:02 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: ConservativeMan55

More proof that government = evil.


14 posted on 09/02/2013 7:44:27 AM PDT by microgood
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To: Netz
So? It’s their job...

Correct! Anyone who doesn't think that Mexico is an enemy and has been during WWI, WWII and up to today, is an idiot, using drugs from Mexico, or on the Mexican Drug Mafia's payroll.

15 posted on 09/02/2013 9:02:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( When feral Islamics are killing each other, stand back and let Allah sort them out!)
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To: apoliticalone

some golf courses have rats


16 posted on 09/02/2013 11:27:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RFEngineer; All
“But I am very concerned about them spying on American citizens.”

Not to worry (/sarc). Candidate ∅™ promised in 2007 it would never happen :

"I will never spy on the American public unless they are suspected in a crime".

17 posted on 09/02/2013 5:17:52 PM PDT by QT3.14 (USA born 7.4.1776 fathered by geniuses, died 11.4.2008 - Suicide -)
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To: ConservativeMan55

“The National Security Agency’s spy program targeted the communications of the Brazilian and Mexican presidents”

Why not? It’s not like they are our allies on anything.
I wouldn’t put it past them to be in on destroying this
country. They sure do act like they want the southwest
(Aztlan) back.


18 posted on 09/02/2013 5:21:33 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: Grampa Dave

Brazil has been run by Marxists since Lula was elected years ago (and his successor is one too).

Everyone has wondered if he was giving aid to Venezuela and the FARC in Colombia. Perhaps the NSA can tell us if this was so.

WOuld be a good example of your tax dollars at work.


19 posted on 09/03/2013 12:00:52 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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