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House Republicans Advocate Path, Not Pathway, To Citizenship
Zorro Noticias Latino ^ | Septiembre 01, 2013

Posted on 09/02/2013 7:00:53 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A central question Congress is wrestling with over the current proposed immigration legislation is whether the 11 million immigrants already in the United States illegally should get a path to citizenship.

And surprisingly, the answer from a small but growing number of House Republicans is “yes,” just as long as it’s not the “special” path advocated by Democrats and passed by the Senate. …

Many House Republicans say people who illegally crossed the border or overstayed their visas should not be rewarded with a special, tailor-made solution that awards them a prize of American citizenship, especially when millions are waiting in line to attempt the process through current legal channels.

It’s far from clear, however, what a path to citizenship that’s not a special path to citizenship might look like, or how many people it might help. …

(Excerpt) Read more at latino.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnestypimps; citizenship; doublespeak; gopestablishment; housegop; illegals; kentucky; randsconcerntrolls; rino
¿Qué?
1 posted on 09/02/2013 7:00:53 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Of course, more taxes on ObamaCare are going to be needed to hire hundreds of thousands of “navigators” to lead them down the pathway.


2 posted on 09/02/2013 7:04:36 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: Olog-hai

The Big Government Republicans are dying to vote for amnesty, to please their Big Business donors.

It’s just a matter of how to sell it to their pesky constituents, who do not want it. Maybe saying it’s not a path to citizenship, and then burying a path to citizenship on page 963 of the bill will fool the yokels. But better get the vote done well ahead of November 2014.


3 posted on 09/02/2013 7:05:16 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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Rand Paul’s immigration speech
03.19.13 | Hon Sen Rand Paul (KY)
Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2998395/posts

...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.

[but he’s not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]


4 posted on 09/02/2013 7:05:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Olog-hai

5 posted on 09/02/2013 7:09:11 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Olog-hai

A Path But Not A Pathway?

Who writes this stuff? Bill Clinton?

We already have a “path to citizenship”:

1 - Enter the country legally
2 - Study hard
3 - Learn to speak English
4 - Meet the requirements for citizenship
5 - Take the oath and become a citzen


6 posted on 09/02/2013 7:09:44 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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To: Olog-hai; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

I was a Republican once and I am in my House and I advocate the Path to citizenship...

The right one...it works...I walked it myself...

No worries...no shadows...


7 posted on 09/02/2013 7:15:51 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Olog-hai

Basics: You cannot have immigration reform without strict numerical limits on how many can stay, based on what is in this country’s interests.

You cannot have reform without real strict criteria on who stays and who goes. For example those with a business who can support their own family.

Cannot work unless a sizeable number must leave and go home.

I don’t hear any of this even discussed, the rest is just an outrageous political entitlement program.


8 posted on 09/02/2013 7:18:58 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, with our 2% unemployment rate, they could all find fantastic jobs.

This truly is the political and moneyed elite against the rest of the country.

A perfect illustration of how far the government has moved away from serving the people it is supposed to represent.

Republicans fight for everybody but their own constituents. The DC GOP is corrupt to the core.


9 posted on 09/02/2013 7:19:57 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Olog-hai

Bank robbers who avoid immediate arrest should be allowed to keep the loot without threat of arrest, detention and trial hanging over them. And more importantly, they should be allowed to vote Democrat.


10 posted on 09/02/2013 7:26:07 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Olog-hai

How stupid. Absolutely NO ONE will understand what they are talking about, and what the difference is.


11 posted on 09/02/2013 7:27:06 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t understand.
Aren’t these invaders already citizens of some other country?

When they are granted US citizenship, do they get to keep the other one?


12 posted on 09/02/2013 7:30:03 AM PDT by Zuse
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To: Olog-hai

even if they were to secure some type of legalization, they have no right to citizenship as a result. To the contrary, their illegality should prevent any thought. However, the fly in the ointment, and probably plan of the Dems, is that if they secure for them legalization, even with no right to citizenship, they can count on the courts to mandate citizenship, IMO.


13 posted on 09/02/2013 7:39:15 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Iron Munro; AuntB; sickoflibs; TADSLOS; Grampa Dave; thouworm; no-to-illegals; Tennessee Nana; ...
Let's be very careful----this is nothing more than agit-prop---America-hating foreigners pushing their Third World agenda on an unsuspecting populace.

In sum---its vile, repugnant "ethnic solidarity" rearing its ugly head.

Keep in mind, these scam artists are intent on building a Third World on US soil using our tax dollars---they want to relegate born-Americans to third class status.

That ain't gonna happen.

14 posted on 09/02/2013 7:52:23 AM PDT by Liz
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To: elpadre
"....even if they were to secure some type of legalization, they have no right to citizenship as a result. To the contrary, their illegality should prevent any thought."

My position:

Those Hispanic youth born outside the USA and brought in by their parents...allow them a path to citizenship if they have ZERO record of any sort of criminal behavior.

The parents who came here illegally.....allow them "legal residency", but no citizenship....ever, under the same limitations of criminal behavior. Their illegal actions should preclude them from ever being in a position to vote on our laws and/or representation, and if they have committed crimes (other than paper crimes incident to their illegal status) while here......deport'em.

Neither class above allowed to bring in/sponsor any other new immigrant....ever.

This is the most I can permit myself to logically support, and actually, much more than they deserve.

15 posted on 09/02/2013 8:00:13 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Olog-hai

There is a path, has been for a very long time. The “illegals” simply go back to their country of origin and then “legally” apply for entry waiting their turn just like all “law abiding” immigrants who respect the sovereignty of our nation and it’s laws. We don’t need any new laws to pander to criminals, we already have enough in the Congress and Senate.


16 posted on 09/02/2013 8:31:45 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Good points. But as I said, the courts may come up with language to give them citizenship. The law must be written very tight to keep the wayward judges at bay.


17 posted on 09/02/2013 8:43:07 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Olog-hai

Just keep talking this stuff dummies and you’ll end up being the 21st century Whigs.


18 posted on 09/02/2013 9:35:17 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Olog-hai
Here's one problem with the immigration issue, it's all top down. Has anyone ever asked, if the illegal invaders want to become citizens?

The answer is they don't. They don't want to become Americans, much less Americanized. They don't want to become part of the American culture.

Making them citizens against their will has to be the stupidest bonehead move of all time.

19 posted on 09/02/2013 12:12:21 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Obama is an historic President. He's America's first 'Dear Leader' President.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Perdogg; Olog-hai; Liz; La Lydia; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ..
RE :”It’s far from clear, however, what a path to citizenship that’s not a special path to citizenship might look like, or how many people it might help. “

Pathway versus path??

With the budget ending this month end, the debt limit running out next month, and Obama demanding a vote on Syria its hard to imagine amnesty coming up in the house this year.
And next year is election year starting with primaries.

20 posted on 09/02/2013 9:37:19 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Another headline FAIL.


21 posted on 09/03/2013 12:12:58 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: sickoflibs; Tennessee Nana; Perdogg; Olog-hai; Liz; La Lydia; stephenjohnbanker; ...

With the budget ending this month end, the debt limit running out next month, and Obama demanding a vote on Syria its hard to imagine amnesty coming up in the house this year.
And next year is election year starting with primaries. “

Too busy for amnesty??

B U M P


22 posted on 09/03/2013 9:29:48 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: Olog-hai

We all knew they were in it for the Obama. I despise these jackasses.

All at once they came back from their vacation that started with Obama giving them a waiver from Obamacare to tell us “screw you!.

Boehner sucks!


23 posted on 09/03/2013 9:33:16 AM PDT by dforest
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To: sickoflibs

” Pathway versus path??”

Of course!


24 posted on 09/03/2013 12:43:57 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The GOP is finished


25 posted on 09/03/2013 12:44:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Boehner & McConnell will be happy being MINORITY leaders.


26 posted on 09/03/2013 12:46:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: SharpRightTurn
Which "Big Government Republicans are dying to vote for amnesty"? What are there names and where did you get the information?

You've made a bunch of accusatory statements. Prove or give a source for your BS.

27 posted on 09/03/2013 12:48:32 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Maybe the GOP should just vanish completely in 2014

let the Freedom Party be the minority party for 2 years before taking over.


28 posted on 09/03/2013 12:49:35 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

If amnesty passes, there won’t be any GOP, OR Freedom Party.


29 posted on 09/03/2013 12:51:05 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: Deb

“Which “Big Government Republicans are dying to vote for amnesty”? What are there names and where did you get the information? You’ve made a bunch of accusatory statements. Prove or give a source for your BS.”

Did you know that Alexander, Corker, Rubio, and several other Big Government Republican Senators helped pass the amnesty bill in the Senate? Have you ever heard of the name of Paul Ryan? How about Eric Cantor? Does John Boehner ring a bell and have you read reports about him working behind the scenes to pass a decent immigration bill in the House as a ruse to enabe a conference committee that would report out an amnesty bill to be voted on by the House?

You need to get out more often.


30 posted on 09/03/2013 2:37:38 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SharpRightTurn
Um, what "amnesty bill"? Oh, you mean the one that Boehner refuses to bring to the floor? The one the House Republicans killed because "securing the border" was not the first requirement? That one? It was a "safe vote" for some Senate Republicans who had to make a strategic vote to kill it as a campaign weapon.

And nowhere did you provide a link to where any Republicans say they are "dying to vote for amnesty". Nor do any of them refer to themselves as "Big Government Republicans". That's your opinion based on your desire to swallow lies and misinformation whole.

You lose.

31 posted on 09/03/2013 2:56:32 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: Deb

“Um, what “amnesty bill”?”

The one that passed the Senate with the help of 15 Big Government Republican Senators.

“Oh, you mean the one that Boehner refuses to bring to the floor?”

Yes. That one. Boehner’s plan, as discussed on this board in numerous articles, and on RedState and other sites (check them out, then you wouldn’t be in the dark on what’s going on), is to pass a border control measure that is acceptable. That bill would then be sent to the Senate, that might adopt parts of it, then it would go to a conference committee where most of the Senate Amnesty bill would be voted out. Then to the House floor where Boehner, Cantor, Paul, et al. would try to get it passed. That’s the word from Michele Bachmann, Louie Gohmert, and other conservative House members. You might do some research on that so you will be in the know.

“It was a “safe vote” for some Senate Republicans who had to make a strategic vote to kill it as a campaign weapon.” That statement makes no sense.

“And nowhere did you provide a link to where any Republicans say they are “dying to vote for amnesty”.” Deb, you make yourself look uneducated for not researching these things before you post. FR has had several articles about how Paul Ryan has been showing up everywhere anyone will listen to him to shill for amnesty. Try the search feature on FR. Boehner and Cantor are saying that “something must be done on immigration.” That’s their code for legalizing illegals.

“Nor do any of them refer to themselves as “Big Government Republicans”.” You are correct on that point. You have to look at their records, not what they say, to know where they stand.

“That’s your opinion based on your desire to swallow lies and misinformation whole.” So you’re telling me there is no way Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, and other squishes would not vote to legalize the invaders? You’re the one swallowing lies and misinformation.

“You lose.” The point is we will all lose if Big Government Republicans like John Boehner get their way.


32 posted on 09/03/2013 5:08:54 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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