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Russian MPs want to fly to Washington to sway Syria vote
Reuters ^ | Mon Sep 2, 2013 10:40am EDT | NOVO-OGARYOVO, Russia

Posted on 09/02/2013 8:30:29 AM PDT by Pan_Yan

(Reuters) - Russian lawmakers want to travel to Washington to urge the U.S. Congress not to back President Barack Obama's plan for military strikes on Syria, the speaker of the upper house of parliament told President Vladimir Putin on Monday.

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"I think if we manage to establish a dialogue with our partners in the U.S. Congress, to exchange arguments, we could possibly better understand each other," Matviyenko, speaker of the Federation Council, told Putin at his residence near Moscow.

"We hope that the U.S. Congress will occupy a balanced position in the end and without strong arguments in place ... will not support the proposal on use of force in Syria," Matviyenko added.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: congress; iran; israel; lebanon; maheralassad; obama; russia; russiasyria; syria; thebrotherdidit; unitedkingdom; waronterror
I wonder if our Congress will listen to their counterparts in the Soviet Union Russian Federation since they certainly don't listen to us.
1 posted on 09/02/2013 8:30:29 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

Everybody off the stritz!


2 posted on 09/02/2013 8:32:00 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: Pan_Yan

It will be hard for them (just like the American people)
to separate the greedy, treasonous, self-serving
US Congress from its brothels, its banks,
its secret payoffs, its private laws,
its NSA derived loveint, and its final future
payoff in citizens’ organs from ObamaCARE/DeathCARE.


3 posted on 09/02/2013 8:33:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Pan_Yan
Very interesting and unusual. I'm not sure what to make of it, are they looking for some US authority to reason with, thinking Obama’s insane and beyond reason?
4 posted on 09/02/2013 8:47:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Very interesting and unusual. I'm not sure what to make of it, are they looking for some US authority to reason with, thinking Obama’s insane and beyond reason?

Perceptive of them if that is the case...

5 posted on 09/02/2013 8:49:47 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Diogenesis
"It will be hard for them (just like the American people) to separate the greedy, treasonous, self-serving US Congress from its brothels, its banks, its secret payoffs, its private laws, its NSA derived loveint, and its final future payoff in citizens’ organs from ObamaCARE/DeathCARE."

But if they do and it becomes quite public, all I can say to B. Hussein O. is:

"Snap! Sucks to be you, Hussein."

6 posted on 09/02/2013 8:52:37 AM PDT by hummingbird (Don't be afraid of the big words.)
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To: Pan_Yan

We didn’t listen to the Russians when they tried to warn us about the Tsarnaevs.


7 posted on 09/02/2013 8:54:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Pan_Yan

Funny as the way the Prophet Obunghole and the congress and most of our government agencies have been behaving I would be hard pressed to not think the Russians are already here and infecting every area of government with their communist idiocy.


8 posted on 09/02/2013 8:56:42 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Pan_Yan

Preparing for Ezekiel 38 and 39 . . . Stand by for The Trumpet!


9 posted on 09/02/2013 9:01:14 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Pan_Yan

They would probably do a better job of “congressional outreach” than arrogant Fairy Prince Obama and his flying monkeys.


10 posted on 09/02/2013 9:02:10 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Pan_Yan

At least give them audience.


11 posted on 09/02/2013 9:02:31 AM PDT by stboz
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To: varmintman
Russian news and editorial content lately has some articles regarding (in their view) belief that the US and Western Europe has a virulent anti Putin hatred and an anti Russian hatred underneath that.

The articles are somewhat strident in their wording, reminiscent of the old days, and may be designed to build nationalism, but they also may be genuine, as Russia in general seems to be rejecting moral decay and the Western press promotes that same decay and does hate Putin.

This gets around the press, around Obama, and the message is delivered by other than the hated messenger, Putin.

12 posted on 09/02/2013 9:05:01 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Wurlitzer

Are the Russians still all Communists?


13 posted on 09/02/2013 9:07:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Testing obama’s “flexibility”?


14 posted on 09/02/2013 9:13:29 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Pan_Yan

McLame will never listen


15 posted on 09/02/2013 9:33:22 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Pan_Yan

Don’t bother. He’s already said he doesn’t care which way Congress votes.


16 posted on 09/02/2013 9:33:46 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Navy Patriot

“...are they looking for some US authority to reason with, thinking Obama’s insane and beyond reason?”

They’re looking for rational adults to deal with, not a big-talking, small-walking, no-brained, dope-smoking, dog-eating, community-agitating petulant child narcissist with a Napoleonic Complex who thinks “leading from behind” is a virtue.

They know Obama is a punk and they want to try to reason with adults. Sadly, there are very few of those left in Congress.


17 posted on 09/02/2013 9:37:40 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Stingray

Yeah, that’s another way of putting it.


18 posted on 09/02/2013 9:42:04 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Pan_Yan

I don’t think we should be involved in Syria at all. The whole place is screwed up. We have two factions capable of using WMDs, and I think they’re both likely to have used them. We don’t know for sure.

There are times when you can garner good will by listening to others. Europe isn’t in our camp on this. The Middle-East is uneasy over it. Some want us in. Others do not.

Here is a chance to allow Russia to play the role of a major player. Let their MPs come here. Send five planes to go pick them up. Make a big summit out of it.

I consider this a chance to toss Russia a bone. It went from super status to no status. I think it misses being relevant. This is an opportunity to bring our two nations closer together. We should take advantage of it.

Let Russia look like it talked us out of it.

Russia and the United States should be close. We should become good allies. All it takes is a decision to do so, and we can start tossing each other favorable deals.

Russia has a very long agreement with Syria. We should honor that agreement. Truth be told, Russia could actually help be a mediator in this whole Syria mess. Handled correctly, we might even get Assad to accept leaving office.

This is the type of deal we should be working towards. The airstrike idea is foolhardy. It’s like hitting Ivan over the head with a mallet, so we can prove how big we are, and for what? This is idiotic.

It wouldn’t have to mean we just stand back and let Russia screw things up for the next 50 years. I don’t think they could do much worse than Carter did in Iran in the 70s though.

Let Putin look like a statesman. Give the guy some respect. Work out a plan with Russia and implement it together.

Do we need to trust Putin completely? No. I don’t think we should. It’s still better to have a strong working relationship, than to continue to build up animosity over time, and not devise a way to release it.

This is actually a made to order moment here.

It has been my take that we missed an incredible opportunity at Belson. We should have acted as if those kids were American kids, showing all the grief we would have if this had taken place on our soil. Those types of expressions of shared experience draw nations closer together.

Russia needs to see value in being partners with the West, particularly us. Now is a good time to start to make that happen.

Moving forward to this end in a wise well thought out manner, could be a very positive thing.


19 posted on 09/02/2013 9:42:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Navy Patriot

“Yeah, that’s another way of putting it.”

So then it’s settled. We agree. The world is a much better place today! ;)


20 posted on 09/02/2013 9:44:56 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Americans have more communists than Russians these days


21 posted on 09/02/2013 9:45:52 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: DoughtyOne

exactly, Obama isn’t even giving peace a chance with this rush to war. Even Bush gave Saddam a chance to step down to avoid war.


22 posted on 09/02/2013 9:48:41 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Stingray; Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
They know Obama is a punk and they want to try to reason with adults. Sadly, there are very few of those left in Congress.

It's such an unusual move, yours is the only explanation that makes sense to me. Still, given the character of Congress, there's really nowhere for these Russians to go for a dialogue.

23 posted on 09/02/2013 9:48:46 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Navy Patriot

Nyet.


24 posted on 09/02/2013 9:51:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 4rcane

hear him out—maybe the Congress can re-set a link to the congress of the Russians. He might have an idea or two—If not we can always say we tried! What could it hurt?


25 posted on 09/02/2013 10:01:20 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: 4rcane
Americans have more communists than Russians these days

From what I have seen lately, the Communist Party has the second largest vote count in the Russian Federation with a considerable gap behind Putin's United Russia, and the Communists consistently oppose the majority legislation from the Duma and oppose Putin's administrative actions.

Making assessment difficult is the fact that any mature aged politician in Russia started their careers at a time when no one could advance in government service without being a member of the Communist Party and an employee of their alphabet agencies.

You really need an advanced scorecard to know the real political ideology of Russian leaders.

26 posted on 09/02/2013 10:05:14 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: 4rcane
Kind of ironic really, the Left chanting that for the last fifty years or more, "Give peace a chance."

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27 posted on 09/02/2013 10:45:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: lonevoice
Still, given the character of Congress, there's really nowhere for these Russians to go for a dialogue.

They might head back to Moscow in sheer panic that there's no longer any adults in charge. Might be really disillusioning for them.

28 posted on 09/02/2013 10:58:50 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Navy Patriot

Yeah. Yes they are, no doubt in my mind. The Ruskie position is really quite simple. 20% of their foreign arms sales go to Syria and Basher owes them big money. Ivan is , I’m sure , sick of getting stuck with the tab ala Saddam and Qdaffy. And then there is the Russian naval base in Syria. It’s now their warm water port, since losing Ukraine, and they’d sure like to keep it. Any big deals must guarantee security of the base or Ivan just ain’t gonna like it. Beyond that the Russians do not have a soft spot for muzzies and would probably go along with flattening every hi diddle diddle minarat in Syria. And I expect they’d loan us the rope to string up the chinless pencil neck geek Basher.


29 posted on 09/02/2013 11:12:38 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Pan_Yan

David Gergen: Syria raises questions about ‘how firm a grip Obama has on the wheel as commander in chief’

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/01/david-gergen-syria-raises-about-how-firm-a-grip-obama-has-on-the-wheel-as-commander-in-chief-video/

“On Sunday’s “State of the Union” on CNN, former presidential adviser and CNN contributor David Gergen warned that President Barack Obama’s handling of the Syrian crisis could induce the Russians to aggressively involve themselves with the war-torn country.

Gergen also said U.S. involvement in Syria could cause the Russians to step up their support of Bashar al-Assad’s government.”


30 posted on 09/02/2013 12:12:51 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Pan_Yan

Putin knows Obama is a muslim and supports terrorists. Putin does not like terrorists. This is historical for Russia to send people here to try to warn congress. I believe they’re going to lay it out exactly what will happen if Obama pulls the trigger. This may also give the military brass some balls to stand up and say “Not this time, Kenyan.”


31 posted on 09/02/2013 12:15:50 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: cherokee1
The Ruskie position is really quite simple. 20% of their foreign arms sales go to Syria and Basher owes them big money. Ivan is , I’m sure , sick of getting stuck with the tab ala Saddam and Qdaffy.

Assad is being carried by the Russians, Qaddafi, not so much, the Russians didn't want his gold disappearing down Obama's IMF buddies' black hole, which is exactly what it did. It is the last time.

And then there is the Russian naval base in Syria. It’s now their warm water port, since losing Ukraine, and they’d sure like to keep it.

Ukraine's extension of Russian base's lease may challenge U.S. goals in region

Russia’s Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol beyond 2017 Read all of this one.

Russia likely wants to keep it's Syrian base, but isn't scaling major operations there yet. Sevastopol will remain at least until 2042 and Russia says it will never leave there.

Beyond that the Russians do not have a soft spot for muzzies and would probably go along with flattening every hi diddle diddle minarat in Syria.

True, but they will not screw Assad because they actually want stability, and everyone else in Syria is worse than him.

32 posted on 09/02/2013 5:45:03 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Pan_Yan
"Russian MPs want to fly to Washington to sway Syria vote"

Favored constituents (socialists in both parties) will probably scream for nominating and electing them.


33 posted on 09/02/2013 6:10:56 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.), Army National Guard, '89-'96)
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