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To: kevcol

I honestly think this is a wedge issue, that we better start paying attention to, and turn this around.

I went to church this weekend, and the pastor started with homosexuals, transsexuals, and proceeded to list off atheists, and others who we should allow to commune with us as good Christians.

Say WHAT?

Look, I’m not here to say all homosexuals should be kicked out of church, but the Bible is clear, and we need to stick to some core values.

I’m a sinner. I can still attend. I think other sinners should be able to as well, but let’s remember that my infractions are recognized as infractions, and theirs are quickly becoming neutralized in the interest of inclusivity.

That is wrong IMO.


3 posted on 09/02/2013 7:39:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: DoughtyOne

“I’m a sinner. I can still attend. I think other sinners should be able to as well, but let’s remember that my infractions are recognized as infractions, and theirs are quickly becoming neutralized in the interest of inclusivity.”

That’s the point. If we know we’re sinners in need of forgiveness, there’s still hope. If however, we believe our sin is not a sin, and is something good, then there is no hope.


6 posted on 09/02/2013 7:54:14 PM PDT by River Hawk
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To: DoughtyOne

“I’m a sinner. I can still attend. I think other sinners should be able to as well, but let’s remember that my infractions are recognized as infractions, and theirs are quickly becoming neutralized in the interest of inclusivity.”

That’s the point. If we know we’re sinners in need of forgiveness, there’s still hope. If however, we believe our sin is not a sin, and is something good, then there is no hope.


7 posted on 09/02/2013 7:54:18 PM PDT by River Hawk
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To: DoughtyOne

“I honestly think this is a wedge issue, that we better start paying attention to, and turn this around.”

Yeah, but here’s the thing: how?

We’ve already lost the majority in this country, and the numbers are continuing to move ever-more-quickly in the wrong direction.

You’re not going to convince SCOTUS to strip already-married couples of their status.

The best I think we can hope for is a ruling that lets individual state bans remain. What do you realistically see happening?


8 posted on 09/02/2013 8:03:20 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree 100%. And yes they should be able to attend and should attend. But they should no more have their sins condoned than adulterers or any other sinners. You would never ever see or expect to see and adulterer admitting it and expecting the any church to sanction it!!!

I would add, before it’s too late Churches across the land must proclaim that they perform, preside over, and bless ONLY Holy Matrimony! NO civil marriage. If couples want to get a license, they are free to, but that none is necessary for Holy Matrimony. Let the govt stuff their marriage equality demands. Homosexuals do not and cannot qualify, ever, for Holy Matrimony!


9 posted on 09/02/2013 8:05:42 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DoughtyOne
In my area, there is a huge, mega-church in a main line denomination, that has contacted all its members to inform them that their church will now have an "outreach" to the LGBT community.

Nothing unexpected here as the pastor had already been working behind the scenes already with various gay groups and even recruited gays within his congregation to "teach" Sunday School classes to members of their group, unbeknownst to his non-gay members!

17 posted on 09/02/2013 9:32:34 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: DoughtyOne

Um, you need a new church... quick!


18 posted on 09/02/2013 9:45:56 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: DoughtyOne

That would have been my last day in that church.

Stand up for what you believe. It is why I quit going to mainsteam churches.


23 posted on 09/03/2013 1:19:56 AM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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