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Putin plans Russian delegation to sway Congress on Syria strike
CBS News / The Associated Press ^ | September 2, 2013

Posted on 09/02/2013 11:05:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Vladimir Putin hopes to send a delegation of Russian lawmakers to the United States to discuss the situation in Syria with members of Congress, the Interfax news agency reported Monday.

Russian legislators Valentina Matvienko and Sergei Naryshkin proposed that to Putin, saying polls have shown little support among Americans for armed intervention in Syria to punish President Bashar Assad's regime for an alleged chemical weapons attack.

The lawmakers said maybe U.S. legislators can be persuaded to take a "balanced stance" on the issue....

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TOPICS: Russia
KEYWORDS: chemicalwarfare; congress; obama; putin; russia; syria; wmd
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This is all surreal.
1 posted on 09/02/2013 11:05:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This might make CSPAN worth watching...Russians beyotch-slapping-down McCain and Gramnesty’s war cries.


2 posted on 09/02/2013 11:07:54 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Goes to show Russia’s desperation to stop the strike on their ally Syria. I suspect, also, that a lot of the disinformation out in the media now is as a result of Russia’s intelligence service working to sway public opinion against any action. It’s revealing and tells me that Russia is impotent in stopping us if we decide to strike, contrary to all the people warning about Russia’s military. It also furthers my conviction that we ought to take Assad out, regardless of who takes over, since it is poses such a serious problem for Russian strategy. The people who will take over in Syria might still be our enemies, but it is likely it’ll be harder for Russia to have any influence over them, or coordinate them with our and Israel’s other enemies. Syria + Iran + Russia are making a dangerous triad in the middle east, and anything that breaks that up is a good thing.


3 posted on 09/02/2013 11:09:17 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is all surreal.

No it's not, I mean it's not like we really have a President of the United States in office.
Haven't had one in over 5 years.

4 posted on 09/02/2013 11:10:47 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We cannot allow a seasoned Communist whose every effort in life has been to undermine and diminish the United States to sway our elected representatives.

But enough about 0bama. What's this guy Putin like?

5 posted on 09/02/2013 11:13:35 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: The Cajun

Russia is a formidable enemy in WW3


6 posted on 09/02/2013 11:15:13 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Billthedrill
Bod-daa-Boom------Shheeeeeese
7 posted on 09/02/2013 11:15:38 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun

I’ll be here all week. Try the veal.


8 posted on 09/02/2013 11:16:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama will talk to his fags, the Russian delegation will talk to ours ;)


9 posted on 09/02/2013 11:16:43 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Henceforth, the Office of the President shall be known as IMPOTUS)
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To: knarf
Yes, I know, so what's your point?
10 posted on 09/02/2013 11:17:15 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Oh, was Linda invited?


11 posted on 09/02/2013 11:18:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: The Cajun
Russia comes over here to interfere with our sovereignty ... SOMEone had better have a backbone and tell them to f off.

Russia is not leaving here as happy campers, no matter WHAT the outcome.

If we acquiesce, we're surly the dogs of the planet and our faggoty ROE will allow anyone to walk all over us.

Russia is coming here to humiliate us and that won't sit well with some people.

Trouble's abrewin'

In my opinion.

12 posted on 09/02/2013 11:22:02 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From your article posted:
Combine that with this:
Russia is going the fight for "gas and oil" and defend its national security interest in Syria. br
13 posted on 09/02/2013 11:22:38 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: knarf
Russia is coming here to humiliate us and that won't sit well with some people.

Russia doesn't humiliate us nearly as much as the POS in the White Hut does.

Russia comes over here to interfere with our sovereignty ...

The Chinese and Saudis do that on a daily basis economically.

Barky Obama opened his big mouth and got us into crap that is none of our concern, to paraphrase what Palin said ,"Let Allah sort it out for the muzzies in the middle east".

14 posted on 09/02/2013 11:33:03 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just when the 90s got kinda boring, we get this world to watch. Oh well, Obama saved my dads life by stealing the last election. He’s way older than he has a right to be. He said as long as that communist Kenyan was in office, he refuses to give up the ghost.


15 posted on 09/02/2013 11:35:51 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

” and anything that breaks that up is a good thing.”

Like flying close air support to help Al Qeida take over Syria so they can behead Orthodox Christians?


16 posted on 09/02/2013 11:37:59 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

” and anything that breaks that up is a good thing.”

Like flying close air support to help Al Qeida take over Syria so they can behead Orthodox Christians?


17 posted on 09/02/2013 11:38:01 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Billthedrill

“Whats this Putin guy like?”

Post of the day, LMAO.


18 posted on 09/02/2013 11:41:31 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Billthedrill

“I’ll be here all week. Try the veal.”

and the hits keep coming. I don’t know if you’re actually making me laugh like this, or if its the Wild Turkey im drinking. But damn, i got a belly laugh there.


19 posted on 09/02/2013 11:44:30 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: knarf
If we acquiesce, we're surly the dogs of the planet and our faggoty ROE will allow anyone to walk all over us.

What do you propose we do?

20 posted on 09/02/2013 11:44:45 PM PDT by Ken H (First rule of gun safety - have a gun)
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To: DesertRhino

“Like flying close air support to help Al Qeida take over Syria so they can behead Orthodox Christians?”


And yet Syria is a supporter of Hizbollah (in fact, Hizbollah has taken the side of the Al-Assad government and is aiding them in the civil war) which also beheads Orthodox Christians, and also likes to shoot rockets at Israel, albeit moreso in Lebanon in Israel. Syria is also being aided and abetted by Iran and its military, who also are responsible for the production of roadside bombs and other material aid, comfort and people who have killed American soldiers in Iraq. And behind them all is Russia, and the end goal is a middle east without United States involvement, and a weakened or destroyed Israel, so that Russia can freely dominate Middle Eastern politics.

If you’re concerned about the Orthodox Christian population, then maybe you should support occupation, or at least encourage Christian organizations to help rescue Syrian refugees out of that country. Heck, out of every Middle Eastern country, as it doesn’t seem that they are safe anywhere.


21 posted on 09/02/2013 11:46:14 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; 2ndDivisionVet; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; FARS; All

Boy, that’ll change a lot of hearts and minds. sark/ Especially in the House.

Regarding disinformation, I’ll bet that Syria video showing a rebel cutting out and eating a heart was a plant. Some years ago, people high up in US (can’t remember who) felt fairly certain that a blown up apartment building in Russia (over 300 killed?) was a put up job by Putin to tar the Chechen rebels and win his election.


22 posted on 09/02/2013 11:47:39 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Billthedrill

Bill, your point is well taken, for I believe this is a coordinated effort between the two leaders—O. meeting gays and Putin meeting Congress. Do you remember when O. did not know his mic was open he told the seasoned leader of the KGB, “ wait until I get reelected.”, i.e., for our plan to be put into effect. And I’m no tea leaves reader, but I can see the dominos falling around our ally Israel. Chaos, anti-Americans running our American system, this is not good..


23 posted on 09/02/2013 11:51:23 PM PDT by The Westerner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Surreal and maybe a little schizophrenic.

On the one hand we have the Russian government warning its citizens not to travel to third party lands where they might be extradited to the United States for trial for alleged crimes. On the other hand we have Russian legislators who have probably at least countenanced human rights violations voluntarily going directly to America.

Surreal or even schizophrenic or not, they would be carrying the right message.


24 posted on 09/02/2013 11:51:42 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Billthedrill

Hehehehehe


25 posted on 09/02/2013 11:51:46 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: gleeaikin

“Some years ago, people high up in US (can’t remember who) felt fairly certain that a blown up apartment building in Russia (over 300 killed?) was a put up job by Putin to tar the Chechen rebels and win his election.”


A lot of Russian dissidents and former FSB agents, one famously poisoned with Polonium 210 in the UK, felt fairly certain about that too. I’m actually of that opinion as well.


26 posted on 09/02/2013 11:51:54 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I get the feeling that Obama is going to do something really stupid over this whole matter. It is something that he and the Democrats will later regret. Big time.


27 posted on 09/02/2013 11:56:05 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

He has to cover for Benghazi, the spying scandals, the Depression II terrible economy, etc.

The St. Trayyvon gambit failed ... so they’re trying for another big distraction.


28 posted on 09/02/2013 11:58:28 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Obama and his people are way in over their head. They will do something stupid and a lot of innocent people are going to get hurt/killed.

Obama is doing something that I thought would never happen - I am ready to join the anti-war protesters!

When I see the people who are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan and I ask myself - for what? To keep America safe for Trayvon Martin and his homies? The country has gone mad. Patriotic Americans are sacrificing their lives for what - Obama, Hillary and Kerry?


29 posted on 09/03/2013 12:02:54 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a simple fix. Let Israel go in and it will all be over before breakfast.


30 posted on 09/03/2013 12:06:37 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Regret? Nothing has happened to them yet concerning Benghazi, the NSA, the IRS, ObamaCare, voter fraud, high unemployment, an ongoing severe recession, inflation and a hundred other things.


31 posted on 09/03/2013 12:09:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The more I think about what’s going on, the less it makes sense. Either Muslim Brotherhood groupie, Obama, is playing a chess game to get Israel and the U.S. attacked, or he’s working WITH Putin in a big charade that strengthens Russian interests. Maybe Obama himself will flee to Russia when there’s no one left in the U.S. willing to continue cover for his duplicity, not even the media,


32 posted on 09/03/2013 12:10:33 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Billthedrill
But enough about 0bama. What's this guy Putin like?
Since we had to have a Communist President it's too bad he wasn't more like Putin.
33 posted on 09/03/2013 12:10:44 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Billthedrill

We cannot allow a seasoned Communist whose every effort in life has been to undermine and diminish the United States to sway our elected representatives.
But enough about 0bama. What’s this guy Putin like?


The day is young, but yours could be Post of the Day! Classic!


34 posted on 09/03/2013 12:22:33 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: The Westerner

During the ‘08 election the story was circulating on FR about someone having met a Russian couple at a cocktail party years earlier, and they said a Black guy named “Obama,” whom the Russians had been grooming from a young age, would have a meteoric rise to prominence and be elected President.

I don’t know if the story is true, but I recall that it sent a shiver up my spine in a way that caught me completely off guard. I have never really doubted that Obama is, except recently when I have instead suspected he was a Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qaeda plant instead. Certainly no American.


35 posted on 09/03/2013 12:24:24 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Ken H
We have to shut obama up.

somehow

And I don't know how.

36 posted on 09/03/2013 12:26:05 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As much as I hate how Obama has abused the opposition, I think the vicious KGB thug Putin needs to stay out of US business. Any conservative who thinks Putin has America's best interest at heart is overlooking the cynical nature of this budding despot. It was Putin who said the collapse of the Soviet Union was the worst thing that happened in the 20th Century, not WWII, not the Holocaust, not the Gulag.
37 posted on 09/03/2013 12:26:26 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama's policy towards Morsi and the Moslem Brotherhood came from his heart.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

If the US government sides with the Muzzie Brotherhood by attacking Assad, it will result in increased persecution of Christians in Syria as well as the eventual formation of the neo-Ottoman empire, which is Obama’s plan all along.

PS: For the premillennialist Freepers among us... it means Obama is trying to revive the kingdom that toppled the Roman Empire in 1453 to become the 7th kingdom described in Revelation 17, but was toppled after World War I.


38 posted on 09/03/2013 12:47:54 AM PDT by istandwithsarah (Game on!)
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To: elhombrelibre

” Any conservative who thinks Putin has America’s best interest at heart is overlooking the cynical nature of this budding despot.”

The same can be said about Obama.


39 posted on 09/03/2013 12:48:09 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Note the interesting rewrite of this news to alter the perception of origin.

Putin plans Russian delegation to sway Congress on Syria strike

President Vladimir Putin hopes to send a delegation of Russian lawmakers to the United States to discuss the situation in Syria with members of Congress,...

But here we see that it wasn't Putin's idea originally, it was proposed to him: Russian legislators Valentina Matvienko and Sergei Naryshkin proposed that to Putin,...

The Western MSM hates and has character assassinated Putin. By presenting this as his idea, they hope to preemptively destroy an overture that makes Obama look like the irresponsible petulant child he is. If successful the MSM gets the US military support of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Queda, they so much desire.

40 posted on 09/03/2013 12:50:57 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: 1035rep

America and Americans will outlast Obama and his idiotic ideas.


41 posted on 09/03/2013 1:03:52 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama's policy towards Morsi and the Moslem Brotherhood came from his heart.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
It’s revealing and tells me that Russia is impotent in stopping us if we decide to strike,

Who is this "we" that you speak of here? Because you can count me out of this one. But I am sure your dirtbag Kenyan president and his buttboys McLame and Grahmnesty appreciate your support.

42 posted on 09/03/2013 1:07:51 AM PDT by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

“Who is this “we” that you speak of here? Because you can count me out of this one. But I am sure your dirtbag Kenyan president and his buttboys McLame and Grahmnesty appreciate your support.”


And I’m sure your guy Putin and his butt buddies in the Kremlin appreciate yours.


43 posted on 09/03/2013 1:23:48 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Meanwhile, Zero is going to Russia to speak to a bunch of fags.

He's really got that vision thing.

44 posted on 09/03/2013 1:30:25 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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Don’t you mean “a bunch of other fags” there?


45 posted on 09/03/2013 1:33:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good point.


46 posted on 09/03/2013 1:36:32 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 1035rep

The same can be said and should be said, but I won’t side with Putin. I’ll reject them both.


47 posted on 09/03/2013 1:45:28 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama's policy towards Morsi and the Moslem Brotherhood came from his heart.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So you’re in agreement with 0bama, McCain, and Graham? Do you believe that any of those 3 are trying to protect Israel?


48 posted on 09/03/2013 1:55:59 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Goes to show Russia’s desperation to stop the strike on their ally Syria. I suspect, also, that a lot of the disinformation out in the media now is as a result of Russia’s intelligence service working to sway public opinion against any action. It’s revealing and tells me that Russia is impotent in stopping us if we decide to strike, contrary to all the people warning about Russia’s military. It also furthers my conviction that we ought to take Assad out, regardless of who takes over, since it is poses such a serious problem for Russian strategy. The people who will take over in Syria might still be our enemies, but it is likely it’ll be harder for Russia to have any influence over them, or coordinate them with our and Israel’s other enemies. Syria + Iran + Russia are making a dangerous triad in the middle east, and anything that breaks that up is a good thing.

July 25, 2007 WSJ article:

To Check Syria, U.S. Explores Bond With Muslim Brothers

This thread has a discussion that includes that article (post #13 has some quick highlights):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3060357/posts

Unfortunately, the US government, over a century ago, fell under the virtual complete control of the Anglo-American financial oligarchs, better known as new world order. That article even leaves out what NWO does not want revealed, which is that muslim terrorism is the creation of Western intelligence at the behest of NWO. Without the conflict terrorism provides, there's no reason to keep spending hundreds of billions on "protecting us". This is why NWO initiated their terrorism efforts after the USSR so-called "collapse", since the end of the decades-old "competition" would cause a collapse in US defense spending.

The US history we are taught is a complete sham, as new world order is the instigator of wars, and populations of nations (sheeple) and national leaders are used like pawns.

It's about time we stop.
49 posted on 09/03/2013 2:09:41 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

50 posted on 09/03/2013 2:13:03 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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