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Weekly Investment & Finance Thread (Sept.-3-6 edition)
Freeper Investors ^ | Sept.. 3, 2013 | Freeper Investors

Posted on 09/03/2013 3:12:31 AM PDT by expat_panama

This is the Weekly Investment & Finance Thread (Sept.-3-6 edition)---- 
Trying to focus on the markets for today and each day and the economic news

 

This is where you can exchange some investment opinions and advice 

If you see another FR economic thread you like and want to link to it here, please do

Post your favorite economic site links. Your favorite economic blogs and precious metals blogs and sites

Ping list -- on or off let me know here or via freep-mail. If I missed you then Freep-mail me
I might ping you to other interesting economic threads a few times a week. One per day maybe

 

Sites that posters have recommended ------ 

 

Somebody that no longer posts pointed Aliska to freestockcharts.com. The candles help.

Mutual funds:
Top-Performing Mutual Funds by Category-Kiplinger
Best Mutual Funds | US News Best Funds
Most Popular Funds (you can look at their Holdings).
this one?

Oil and Gas Industry
http://fuelfix.com/
http://www.theoildrum.com/
http://www.petroleumnews.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/homeauto.html

Treasury Basics..
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/BC/SBCPrice

All things forex from different sources. Lots of forums for traders
http://www.forexfactory.com/

Dividends...
http://dividendsvalue.com/
http://www.dividends4life.com/
http://www.dividendyieldhunter.com/
http://www.dividendstocksonline.com/
http://www.dividenddetective.com/
http://dividendstocks4income.com/
http://www.dividendgrowthinvestor.com/Drip-ing”...
http://dripinvesting.org/tools/tools.asp
hot stuff here Rush Limbaugh quotes them sometimes:
http://www.zerohedge.com 

CPA’s....
http://www.aicpa.org

Gold, Out of the Box Thinking etc...
http://www.davejanda.com/
https://www.everbank.com/
http://dailypfennig.com/
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/

Websites underbyte likes

http://www.itulip.com  Site owner is an economist and predicted our current financial problems back in 1999

http://www.itulip.com/kapoomtheory.htm  Metals focused site with analysis

 http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/  Another metals analysis site for alternative viewpoints   http://www.gold-eagle.com/authors/mark-j-lundeen

Precious Metals
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com
http://www.Apmex.com

The Markets....
http://seekingalpha.com/
http://www.dailystocks.com/
http://www.gainerstoday.com/
http://www.gainerstoday.com/
http://www.realclearmarkets.com/
http://247wallst.com/
http://www.decisionmoose.com/
http://www.market-ticker.org/



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: economy; investing; trade
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1 posted on 09/03/2013 3:12:31 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; Aliska; Aquamarine; B.O. Plenty; BenLurkin; bert; BipolarBob; ...

Happy new week to all!  We got stock futures up sharply and metals are flat.  We're either looking at a 'feel-good' post holiday market or...

OECD sees Europe joining US recovery, emerging markets sluggish
By Leigh Thomas. PARIS | Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:12am EDT. PARIS (Reuters) - Led by firm U.S. growth, the outlook is gradually improving for advanced economies while even crisis-weary Europe is at last joining the recovery, the OECD said on Tuesday.
Nokia shares surge 40% on Microsoft mobile deal
Nokia Sale Marks End of an Era  
Microsoft reaches $7.2B deal for Nokia handset business  

 

2 posted on 09/03/2013 3:18:28 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Big data week!

Tuesday:
PMI
ISM Manufacturing

Thursday:
ADP
Productivity

Friday:
NFP
UE


3 posted on 09/03/2013 4:34:02 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

tx

Futures up more this morning but that’s after having dropped so much in the past few weeks. “Interesting” is applicable the word here...


4 posted on 09/03/2013 6:24:45 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
ISM manucaturing climbed to 55.7 in August, up from 55.4 in July.

Consensus was for 54.0.

It's sort of been a mixed bag since 2011, according to this chart from Econoday, but there's been some recent improvement:

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/here-comes-ism-manufacturing-2013-9#ixzz2dq2R1cNC

5 posted on 09/03/2013 7:03:51 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: expat_panama
DJIA drops as Boehner says he supports Obama's action on Syria


6 posted on 09/03/2013 8:24:54 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

NASDAQ & Russell 2000 seem to be following the same pattern.


7 posted on 09/03/2013 10:45:55 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Pete --

Were I trading either bonds or indicies right now, I'm afraid I'd have on some sort of bear option spread in SP and some flavour on the long side in the assorted longer-term interest rate mkts. I am not, so this is all moot -- a 'mouth trade' if you like.

However, if the Restupidcans are as feckless as I imagine them to be, these types of trades WILL be the way to go in the near future. The US has exactly zero 'national interest' in Syria; let Putin and the Russians sort it out. Sadly, I suspect that Zerobama's megalomania -- or, if you prefer, delusions of adequacy (never mind grandeur) will not allow his backing away from bombing, Regress or not.

You do know that all this nonsense about Syria is simply about the transit of the "new" NG pipe running through Syria, which threatens (if/when completed) Russia's ability to hold Europe hostage to Gazprom's methane, right?

8 posted on 09/03/2013 6:14:13 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: expat_panama

I noticed silver was up over 3% today.


9 posted on 09/03/2013 6:27:16 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; Aliska; Aquamarine; B.O. Plenty; BenLurkin; bert; BipolarBob; ...

Apparently momentum for a rebound's hard to come by as futures markets have stocks and metals down this morning. 

72 KEY ECONOMIC RELEASES THIS WEEK US Labor Day Holiday-US Markets closed or limited open on Monday. Check Holiday Schedule www.cmegroup.com/tools/information/holiday-calendar/ Reserve Bank of Australia Policy Meeting, US ISM... (full story)
 

 

10 posted on 09/04/2013 3:58:57 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: SAJ
I'd have on some sort of bear option spread in SP and some flavour on the long side in the assorted longer-term interest rate

Seems we're both looking at the same market signals, my prob is the way we've been getting so many false signals.  I'd be ready to change my mind if I hadn't lost it a while back.

this nonsense about Syria is simply about the transit of the "new" NG pipe running through Syria, which threatens (if/when completed) Russia's ability to hold Europe hostage

Wouldn't that make Russia 'anti-Assad'? Yesterday' buz was that Syria's beginning to look like it was set up to be a sequel to fast'n'furious with the Whitehouse intentionally allowing harm to US interests + deliberately allowing the deaths of hundreds of innocents in the vain hope of blaming all on some political opposition.

11 posted on 09/04/2013 4:17:02 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Sawdring
I noticed silver was up over 3% today.

Tx for the headsup [digging out the numbers]

huh, not sure --maybe that was for last Monday...

12 posted on 09/04/2013 4:24:28 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
It's really bullish today; mine are moving up but one; too soon to cash out. Hard to tell what's a good deal of the ones I watch every day.

They've said Raytheon is way up; well that wasn't true, slow to take the bait but it was up some yesterday. Now it's up 1.10%.

Bad news will shoot the whole thing back down again. That gas pipe and petro dollars has to have something to do with this. But they'd better not blame Assad without solid proof for political pragmatism.

It's disgusting how they are trying to cajole the recaltritrants. I hate to see people buckle against their principles because they can't take the heat.

You'll probably be sorry if you don't get back in. Maybe sized way down. I don't have a feel for it right now. One good thing is that volume is supposed to be up now compared to the past month.

13 posted on 09/04/2013 9:52:12 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska
Up until about 4 weeks ago we had a solid uptrend and then we topped and all indexes have been falling since.  Today's uptick is still below a downward resistance limit (each new high fails to top the previous) but if today's rebound continues into tomorrow then maybe we're seeing a change into a new rally.


14 posted on 09/04/2013 12:32:24 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Hmm, I could have sworn it was. Noticed it is down 3% today.


15 posted on 09/04/2013 12:44:32 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: expat_panama
We'll see. I'm leery about Syria. With as volatile as the market has been, if those missiles start flying, I think the market is in for a rough ride, some stocks excepted. I try to buy stocks that would be needed in any market but when the indexes are down, practically everything else is, too.

I got caught pretty bad in that 4-week downdraft, glad I hung in there. A new rally would be nice. I've no idea what the market will do if we do bomb Syria.

As soon as I can find the time, I'm going to read up on options. But I'm afraid to day trade too much because it's hard to pick suitable candidates and, even then, some days the charts are flat or slope down.

16 posted on 09/04/2013 2:16:36 PM PDT by Aliska
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Sudden major international conflicts in decades past were very profitable for me, mainly because they happened with G H Bush and G W Bush and the markets were momentarily spooked by a fanatically crazed opposition press and I was able to cash in when the press was proved wrong. 

Nothing much happened with Clinton's misadventures that the press fawned over:  Sarajevo, Iraq, Mogadishu, Haiti-- they never accomplished anything but at least they never got out of hand.  This time we got our Military (alone) backing AlQeda against an entrenched regime supported by a Russian missile frigate.

I'm imagining kind of a fast'n'furious on steroids and thinking that maybe my stocks to cash should be followed by cash to food in the basement...

17 posted on 09/04/2013 3:01:32 PM PDT by expat_panama
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They are f'ing with Russia. Seeing your last sentence makes me frightened, think it brings back childhood fears being close to a top ten target, probably isn't now but what affects one part of the country in a really bad way affects it all.

My son had a huge cache in his basement. His young wife didn't like his "apocalyptic" thinking, wasn't all her doing. He killed himself last Dec 5th. He changed the ins to my two daughters, and there's a huge legal battle over it. He had founded a precious metals company, then had just started a diamond company because he felt they were more portable and less likely to be confiscated. He was drop shipping for some Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem he met in Las Vegas at a convention.

The NYT felt it best to let the two sides duke it out without intervention. Now ABC is hinting they may not wait for approval to strike.

I knew my son was right, just got a little too involved with it. I'm glad I was supportive even though I did try to take a common sense approach to some of it He was going to put a bunker under the basement but I told him why he shouldn't. Then he wanted one on the farm. It would probably be against county regulations for underground and too visible; word would spread all over.

Disguise it as a tornado shelter. I decided to keep a little extra food, do wish I had canned a lot of meat and such, and trust in God.

I don't believe they won't have "boots" on the ground. There are already boots on the ground. Just not in Syria but Jordan and the Sinai. Somebody has to hunt for the chemicals. They can be hidden almost anywhere.

18 posted on 09/04/2013 4:19:22 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska
Trust in God is everything, though in my experience a good sense of humor helps a lot too.   During the invasion of Panama we spent a week or two unable to leave our house and I found out that just the stuff in a normal family cupboard can tide a family of 3-1/2 (other daughter born a few months later) for quite a while.  Like, I finally ate those smoked clams that had been on the shelf a couple years and they weren't that bad.  Bad yes, but just not that bad.  Trust in God and sense of humor really do go a long way.

Sure, while we don't take everything to heart we do have to take some things seriously --my heart goes out to you for your unspeakable loss.  I lost my big sister that way.  Years ago.  Fortunately most things that happen in life are good, enough to be able to wind up the day with a few laughs.  I can live with that.

19 posted on 09/04/2013 5:39:57 PM PDT by expat_panama
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Thank you for the kind words. I'm left wondering a lot but we have to go on. It was bi-polar, onset rather sudden and not that apparent. The girls and I will always have love in our hearts for him.

So you got put through your paces of deprivation, quite a young family. I've never eaten smoked clams but love those smoked oysters. I've never been through anything like that, WWII with my mother and dad away; she canned a whole lot of beef she was able to get, heck of a lot of work. But life wasn't affected too much then.

I still try to trust in God and pray. I'm irritable though. The stock market was helping keep my mind off things but I can't watch it all day, do keep up on the news.

Well, I saw an article to read. And Larry Kudlow last Sat nite was gung ho to hit Syria. I was surprised.

20 posted on 09/04/2013 6:35:28 PM PDT by Aliska
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