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5,800 denied Wisconsin concealed-carry permits only 1 fighting it
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 03 sept 2013 | Bruce Vielmetti

Posted on 09/03/2013 5:29:44 AM PDT by rellimpank

Wisconsin has issued nearly 200,000 permits to carry concealed firearms since Act 35 took effect in late 2011, while turning down about 5,800 requests.

Only one of those who were denied a permit has appealed that decision, according the state Department of Justice, and if he prevails it could clear the way for those with certain domestic violence convictions to legally carry hidden guns.

Congress in 1996 banned people convicted of domestic violence from possessing guns, and some gun rights advocates have challenged the reach of the so-called Lautenberg Amendment ever since.

Citing the federal ban, Wisconsin's Department of Justice, which administers the concealed-carry law, denied Robert W. Evans Jr. a permit in April 2012 because he had been convicted in 2002 of domestic violence/disorderly conduct.

As Act 35 provides, Evans appealed the denial to circuit court, arguing the offense isn't a misdemeanor crime of violence under federal law and that he didn't have a domestic relationship with the victim — his 36-year-old stepdaughter — under the federal definition.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; rkba; secondamendment

1 posted on 09/03/2013 5:29:44 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
I think he should have included a Second Amendment element in his appeal. Merely pushing an adult and pleading to disorderly conduct is a ridiculously low bar for losing a Constitutionally guaranteed right.
2 posted on 09/03/2013 6:08:25 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: rellimpank

So in other words of those applying for concealed carry over 97% are granted the permit to do so. Those aren’t bad odds and it’d be intersting to see how they compare with other states.


3 posted on 09/03/2013 6:12:20 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Those aren’t bad odds and it’d be interesting to see how they compare with other states.

I'd wager that New Jersey figures would be about the opposite, 97% denial. I tried to research it a while back but could not find data on applications/approvals.

4 posted on 09/03/2013 6:22:04 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: DoodleDawg

-—and furthermore , none of the terrible events predicted by the media-gunfights at every stoplight, shootouts constantly as a result of minor arguments, etc., —have happened -—


5 posted on 09/03/2013 6:29:19 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

—ping—


6 posted on 09/03/2013 6:30:09 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: JimRed
You could request the info. But they'll edit it first.


7 posted on 09/03/2013 6:33:23 AM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: rellimpank
-—and furthermore , none of the terrible events predicted by the media-gunfights at every stoplight, shootouts constantly as a result of minor arguments, etc., —have happened -—

Wait'll the liberals start getting them. You'll have people getting blown away for cutting in the line at Starbucks.

8 posted on 09/03/2013 6:44:40 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: rellimpank; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

Conceled carry update.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping ist.


9 posted on 09/03/2013 6:54:36 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rellimpank; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

Conceled carry update.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping ist.


10 posted on 09/03/2013 6:54:36 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Conceled = concealed


11 posted on 09/03/2013 6:55:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rellimpank

Domestic violence cases are problematic, because protection orders are disobeyed a lot, and mostly abused women often don’t realize that protection orders work both ways, that they do not have the “control” to allow the man back if they feel like, or kick him out if they don’t. He is out and has to stay out.

For “repeat offenders”, almost always men that ignore protection orders, the best resolution is a bench order from the judge *requiring* the woman to be armed with a loaded gun. I knew of a judge sick of the same women appearing before him again and again with progressively worse injuries, who did this, and the number of repeated cases dropped to zero.

Unfortunately, when he retired, the policy was discontinued by his successor.


12 posted on 09/03/2013 7:02:01 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: DoodleDawg
--and the near "zero" rate of appeals is surprising , too-

-IIRC, during the recent Colorado flap saw that 60% of denials there are overturned on appeal---

13 posted on 09/03/2013 8:08:36 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

I’ve been so busy registering for my others under the Bill Of Rights, that I forgot to register this one. What a shame.


14 posted on 09/03/2013 9:01:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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