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Three Tulsa women arrested in connection with pair of robberies
Tulsa World ^ | Aug 31, 2013 | Dylan Goforth

Posted on 09/03/2013 9:28:14 AM PDT by kevcol

Three Tulsa women are in jail on robbery complaints in connection with a pair of weapons-based heists.

Tiffany Givens, 22, Kimberly Chenevent, 45, and Miriam Marie McCullum, 48, are suspected of taking part in robberies at Habitat for Hope on Aug. 23, as well as the robbery of a Hispanic female on Tuesday.

Tulsa police said Habitat for Hope, 553 S. Zunis Ave., was robbed at gunpoint Aug. 23 when two black females fired a weapon toward a woman at the business, took money and left.

Four days later, a woman was robbed at 275 S. Lewis Ave. when two black females put a gun in the victim’s back, robbed her of money, then forced the victim to drive the suspects to an ATM at 15th Street and South Utica Avenue. The victim’s two young children were in the vehicle during the robbery, police said, and were even placed by the suspects into an SUV that arrived at the scene later, in order to force the victim to withdraw money from the ATM.

(Excerpt) Read more at tulsaworld.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: banglist; habitatforhope; robbery; tulsa
Finally off the streets:

Tiffany Givens
1 posted on 09/03/2013 9:28:14 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

She’s 22? She looks 50.


2 posted on 09/03/2013 9:29:31 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: kevcol

Obama’s daughters


3 posted on 09/03/2013 9:29:40 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: kevcol

4 posted on 09/03/2013 9:30:06 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

15 and Utica?

Pretty dang’d brazen and they were on the wrong side of the tracks.


5 posted on 09/03/2013 9:31:11 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: kevcol

What’s that thing on the side of her head ?


6 posted on 09/03/2013 9:37:42 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

My question is, What’s that thing on her shoulders?


7 posted on 09/03/2013 9:40:49 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Vendome

Should have stayed north of Admiral.

Or way south Peoria now.


8 posted on 09/03/2013 9:44:47 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Vendome

Ever notice how safe Tulsa used to be after 1921?


9 posted on 09/03/2013 9:46:58 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Doh?!!!!

I am one of the few people who get your reference.

I was told about that in 1982.

Went to the downtown library and pulled up news from that period on microfilm.

Quite a few dead.


10 posted on 09/03/2013 9:51:36 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Ever notice how safe Tulsa used to be after 1921?

Scary stuff, I looked it up

11 posted on 09/03/2013 10:30:20 AM PDT by verga (Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)
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To: RightGeek
Obama’s daughters

Yep.

12 posted on 09/03/2013 11:16:46 AM PDT by Mark17 (Mark Levin: Barack Obama is a human wrecking ball)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

So you’re advocating for race riots?


13 posted on 09/03/2013 2:05:33 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: Vendome

***Went to the downtown library and pulled up news from that period on microfilm.****

Betcha didn’t see the TULSA TRIBUNE editorial by owner Richard Jones that day. It seems someone very quickly sliced out that editorial and no one now has a copy of it.

http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/t/tu016.html

“In the post World War I years the Tribune published several accounts that intensified public reaction to unfolding events. An editorial on May 31, 1921, inflamed racial tensions, causing the Tulsa Race Riot to erupt on June 1. In addition, in the mid-1920s the Tribune published negative reports on Gov. John “Jack” Walton, who, the paper claimed, was establishing an “armed dictatorship.” Walton subsequently sent the National Guard to Tulsa and a censor to the newspaper office.”


14 posted on 09/03/2013 5:28:41 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: kevcol

30


15 posted on 09/03/2013 5:30:21 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: kevcol

Hell....I work near 15th and Utica!!


16 posted on 09/03/2013 5:32:15 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: arbitrary.squid

***So you’re advocating for race riots?***

I don’t need to. I live in a fairly safe area of the USA.

And you won’t see any white started riots because the Media does not report much black on white crime unless too big to suppress.

BUT, mention TRAYVON, and you better have backup.


17 posted on 09/03/2013 5:34:21 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Not Free Republic like.........


18 posted on 09/03/2013 5:35:31 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Vendome; Ruy Dias de Bivar
Ruy needs to answer to that.....

FWIW-

19 posted on 09/03/2013 5:38:13 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Osage Orange; Ruy Dias de Bivar

Why does he need to answer that?

Pretty sure he got the reference to the riots.

I found about them in 1985 from a co-worker. Went to the library off Denver and looked it up.

Horrible.

But, peace prevailed after that.


20 posted on 09/03/2013 5:48:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

there is actually a website run by someone in Pryor that talks about the race riots, as they broke out in other places around that same time.

let me see if I can find it.


21 posted on 09/03/2013 5:54:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

BTW, I think there was another riot a few years after that.


22 posted on 09/03/2013 6:01:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Osage Orange; Vendome

Well, think back. That riot was caused by the report of a black elevator operator attacking a white girl. Right or wrong, Tulsa Blew up!

Now, why is it that we don’t see this violent reaction today from whites when the worst kind of violence is done against them? Wichita? Knoxville? Knockout games? “This is for Trayvon!” Towns have burned for less, but not any more.

Look at Detroit. It blew up in the 1960s. What did the whites do? They did not riot, they got up and left, taking all their investment with them.

Now days a person of ANY RACE cannot walk down the street in some cities without fearing for their life because of feral thugs or another gang on the lose.

In the last few years there have been several rapes and murders of non-blacks by black thugs in Tulsa. Yet the city has not blown up. It is a credit to the people that they have not. Now, just WHAT can we do to make Tulsa as safe as it was in 1923. Turn your back? Put on rose colored glasses? Say “we” deserve it for the sins of the past? Come on! what can you do?

I just got back from Tulsa a couple of hours ago from visiting my daughter. She lives near the Pink Elephant on Yale. Thirty years ago it was safe to walk the area. Now several people have been raped and others murdered in this once safe area.


23 posted on 09/03/2013 6:11:13 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: arbitrary.squid

I’ll go on record for NOT advocating race riots....we don’t need that...


24 posted on 09/03/2013 6:16:57 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Vendome

I haven’t heard of that one. My father-in-law remembered seeing distant smoke from a burning 1921 Tulsa.

My folks had already left the Hobart area and moved to Colorado by that time.


25 posted on 09/03/2013 6:21:36 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I think it was safe from 1921-1995 or so.


26 posted on 09/03/2013 6:23:51 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I was born in Tulsa and I have never heard of this incident before now.

Got onto something called the, internet, and came across a wiki slide show in question and answer format that was pertaining to these riots.

Question: What was the cause of the riots?

Answer: Racism

Mind you, in 1921, I doubt most of the population of Tulsa had any idea what the term racism meant.

After spending more time on this thing called the internet, I have discovered that there are people calling for reparations to be paid to the survivors of this riot.

This will never stop, at least in my lifetime. It sure beats working.


27 posted on 09/03/2013 6:31:18 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: kevcol; a fool in paradise

In before breakfast with Tiffany.


28 posted on 09/03/2013 6:34:23 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: kevcol; a fool in paradise

Did the authorities take them back to Tulsa?


29 posted on 09/03/2013 6:35:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!; kevcol; a fool in paradise

Naw....

They were too young to marry....

Tell me something bad about Tulsa...


30 posted on 09/03/2013 7:23:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

can’t find it. Wasn’t as big as 1921 from what I recall.


31 posted on 09/03/2013 7:48:40 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Tulsa was a rough town back then. It appears a mob had hanged a white teen for murder a year before. All of Oklahoma was lawless back then.

Bill Tilghman (One of the THREE GUARDSMEN of OKLAHOMA) was still a lawman who was murdered a few years later in Cromwell OK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Tilghman

“The local Knights of the Ku Klux Klan demanded justice and printed fliers and warnings to criminal elements to leave town or suffer the consequences.[citation needed] One month after Tilghman’s murder, the town of Cromwell was torched, with every brothel, bar, flophouse and pool hall burned to the ground, and no arrests were ever made. Cromwell never recovered its former “wild” status after that, and as of the 2000 census, its population was fewer than three hundred residents.[2]

Osage Indians were being murdered for their oil rights,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osage_Indian_murders

http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/t/tu013.html

” But Tulsa was also a deeply troubled town. Crime rates were sky high, while the city had been plagued by vigilantism, including the August 1920 lynching, by a white mob, of a white teenager accused of murder. Newspaper reports confirmed that the Tulsa police had done little to protect the lynching victim, who had been taken from his jail cell at the county courthouse.”

“Eight months later an incident involving Dick Rowland, an African American shoe shiner, and Sarah Page, a white elevator operator, would set the stage for tragedy. While it is still uncertain as to precisely what happened in the Drexel Building on May 30, 1921, the most common explanation is that Rowland stepped on Page’s foot as he entered the elevator, causing her to scream.”

http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/t/tu013.html

“On the morning of May 30, 1921, a young black man named Dick Rowland was riding in the elevator in the Drexel Building at Third and Main. The white elevator operator, Sarah Page, claimed that Rowland grabbed her arm, causing her to flee in panic. Accounts of the incident circulated among the city’s white community during the day and became more exaggerated with each telling.”


32 posted on 09/03/2013 9:14:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

And south of McAlester is still called “Little Dixie”.


33 posted on 09/03/2013 10:09:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Fair enough...

I kinda shot from my hip....

My apologies.

34 posted on 09/04/2013 11:28:20 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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