Skip to comments.Breaking: Majority Leader Cantor & Speaker Boehner Will Vote For Use of Military Force in Syria
Posted on 09/03/2013 3:12:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt’s Generals:
‘How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?’
Foreign Policy | 15 Aug 2013 | John Hudson
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt’s military — even as Cairo’s security forces massacre anti-government activists.
[by “anti-government activists” is meant church-burning jihadists]
Sen. Cruz Statement on Egypt (Suspend aid over anti-Muslim Brotherhood coup)
Ted Cruz blames Egyptian violence on Obamas disregard for foreign aid law
Stupid RINOS buying into all kinds of BS including that this will help Israel. It will help Al Qaeda, but hurt Israel. Primary all RINOS!
Vote all those RINO establishment types out when election comes around. They are no better than Obozo.
All you self-proclaimed conservatives that didn't vote for the Republican in the last election effectively put Obama back into office.
We used to joke about the water, now I’m wondering about the food, the juice, the toilet paper, their dry cleaners...
What’s so hard to figure on this one?
No threat whatsoever.
What happens if we topple Assad and al Qaeda takes over? Is anyone thinking about that at all.
We’ve spent the better part of a decade fighting al Qaeda, and now we’re going to start giving then nationhood?
Christians and those of other religions [Hindu, Buddists,ect] will be slaughtered.
Is anyone thinking about that at all.
Yes, but they don't care and this includes Congressional Republicans. They will only be just some of obama's "bumps in the road".
That’s about it isn’t it.
Broken; doing the will of their master.
That, My FRieend, is what "immigration reform" is all about. The purpose of "immigration reform" is not to get Mexican laborers over here. It is to get muslims over here and that includes members of the muslim brotherhood and Al Quida.
I don’t know who I loathe more!! Obama or Boehner!!
“what about mccain and graham?”
Read my posts I write about them too. Since you asked, they are establishment, war-enthusiastic interventionists who are itching to set the world on fire.
Cantor is the one who told Bibi he would seek to make congress work for Israel’s interest.
Perhaps it’s possible.. just possible.. that your wrong and the people in power have more info than you do. Perhaps the Russians are not appealing to our government but to our people, hoping to create another Vietnam.
Let me just say I’m not totally convinced this isn’t some master plan by Obama to allow the terrorists to win, but Russia is old old enemy run by someone who hates America with every fiber of his being. Putin is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, wanting, waiting to destroy us. Terrorism is not our greatest enemy. It is, always has, and always will be Russia, at least until the Chinese get another 25-30 years to catch up and don’t somehow implode with their super bubble economy that would put all of our past bubbles to shame. I wouldn’t mind pounding Syria into dust just to remind Putin he still runs a 2nd rate country even if that means another play ground for terrorism, Israel will have fun with them once the S-300’s are gone anyways.
Like Mark Levin said earlier, "opposition to Syria has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with Syria having nothing to do with our national security interests."
Bought and sold. Probably for season tickets to the Kennedy Center, box seats.
What happens if we topple Assad and al Qaeda takes over? Is anyone thinking about that at all.
Weve spent the better part of a decade fighting al Qaeda, and now were going to start giving then nationhood?
If Assad’s regime is toppled that will mean the end of the Alawites. They will be killed along with Christians. There will be NOBODY left in Syria to oppose AQ and the radical Jihadists - nobody. There is no question of “what if AQ takes over.” Their takeover would be all but guaranteed so one has to ask what will Russia do to protect it’s own interest (their port)and allies? What will Israel do to protect their nation given that AQ will have their hands on lots of WMD? What will Turkey do to protect itself from AQ and WMD?
Obama is playing with fire and there won’t be any way to reset the board in Syria. The potential ramifications for the region go far beyond any sins of Assad.
All you self-proclaimed conservatives that didn’t vote for the Republican in the last election effectively put Obama back into office.
You wouldn’t be talking about me. I voted for that weasel McCain and Mitt. And I still like Mitt.
And if some clown like McCain is the next nominee, I won’t be voting for him. If it’s Rubio, NO! I wouldn’t vote for Lindsey Graham, McCain, Lamar Alexander, Boeher, or any clown like that. They’re not much different than Obama.
Screw them! If you want us to support the al Qaeda and the muslim brotherhood, have at it. It’s not for me.
“If we had ONLY voted for Romney, none of this would be!!”
Wonder how Romney would have handled this.
It would be nice if it turned out that Assad had an idiot attack and used the CBR agents.
But Assad not being an idiot, knows better than to use chem agents.
So like previous chem usage, this latest, if real, was 99 percent odds that the rebels and terrorist groups opposing Assad did the chem attack. Unlike Assad, the Al Q’s and associated Obama-supported terrorist groups have everything to gain and nothing to lose with doing a chem attack and then claining Assad did it.
Carter lost the US, Iran.
Obaba will lose the rest of the Middle East.
Truly random lottery would give us better leadership than our “democracy” has now.
The Dems seek to make the USA into the USSA (and we are almost there).
The Repubs job seems to be to bend over and spread their legs for the Dems, other than some of the rank and file.
Toss them all out.
Wave a $20 bill in a trailor park and the USA would have better people in DC than now.
We truly are a dead Republic.
The Constitution is used as T.P.
The Police State is almost complete.
There is no noticeable opposition to the Dems by the Repub leadership.
We are toast as a Country.
The Repubs don’t even have the guts to defund Obaba’s Cr*pCare. And can’t even all oppose Obaba’s amnesty which will make the USA a One Party Socialist Fascist State forever.
The sad thing is not that the USA leadership is cr*p, but that the electorate has a voting majority of people dumber than a box of rocks. People happy to sell their freedom for a handout and a phone.
It is a sad day when one can look at Putin and Obaba and easily see that Putin would be a better leader.
- Saddle up - and you go
Let us know how it works out -
Amen. If this is only about smacking Assad for using Chem weapons on his enemies in this civil war, then what about the other times they’ve been used? Where, exactly is our vital national security interest here? There isn’t one besides “don’t use chemical weapons”?
Since we are going to be the world’s policeman when it comes to chemical weapons, we better think about what we’d do if other nations use them, like Iran and Iraq did during that nasty little war they fought during the 80’s.
This whole concept is pretty crazy. Bush was absolutely crucified by the left for going after Saddam after years and years of sanctions, UN resolutions, and embargoes. Obama says GO! and it looks like “our” guys will salute after making a little noise.
As to what happened to Saddam, looks like he passed his collection of slime on to Syria. Who will the Syrians pass them to? Will they just stay in place so the rebels get them?
At what point does one of these crazy dictators look at the track record of the other crazy dictators who have either given up WMD (Libya) or moved them (Iraq) and say, “screw it, I’m a dead man anyway, use ‘em or give ‘em to Al Queda!”?
There are a lot of questions that aren’t getting asked here. What’s the hidden agenda?
IKE and our Founders are right
- Avoid foreign entanglements
- This all about EGO, CONTROL, POWER, MONEY, and CYA -
Do we see Putin throwing his troops into every squabble?
Remember MAD Magazine?
SPY Vs SPY
- no blood for the rodeo clown
The United States broader policy goal, as articulated by the President, is that Assad should go, and President Obamas redline is consistent with that goal and with the goal of deterring the use of weapons of mass destruction. It is the type of redline virtually any American President would draw. Now Americas credibility is on the line. A failure to act when acting is in Americas interests and when a red line has been so clearly crossed will only weaken our ability to use diplomacy, economic pressure, and other non-lethal tools to remove Assad and deter Iran and other aggressors.”
So using military force is “action,” but economic pressure and diplomacy are not. OK.
Sorry about that!
Let me put some meat on the bones of your “stealth” attacks on Rand and Ted.
Rand is against all this foreign involvement including all the millions in foreign aid. That does NOT mean he is for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. He’s just doing what libertarian types do. He also points out hypocrisy at every turn where he sees it, and it IS hypocritical of Obama to keep the Egyptian aid flowing to the Army wipeout of its enemies, while saying we have to get involved in Syria on the side that is taking the beating right now in Egypt. The whole thing is a monstrous MESS.
Ted has made clear that HIS objection to Obama on Egyptian aid is that an act of Congress says if there is a military coup against an elected government the aid must be cut off. He’s made clear he wants the law straightened out, instead of allowing Obama to violate the law. Change the law, so that if we want to continue aiding Egypt under their military rule it would not be illegal, which is what it is NOW.
Why must you show up to attack Rand and Ted? What does THAT do? Nothing good, that’s for sure.
They are both against what Obama and his GOP E toadies are doing about Syria. And that’s not all of the good they do, for instance against Obamacare.
The problem - well, one of ‘em - with your statement that Cantor does this because he’s doing Israel’s bidding, is that Cantor couldn’t tell the difference between the correct pathway to Israel’s interests and a stupid hole in the ground.
Cantor is a few light bulbs short.
He truly is a bumbling idiot.
Israel’s interest does not lie with al-qaeda. Nor does it lie with Iran, who backs Syria. It lies with NEITHER.
It also does not lie with dumb “Americans” like Obama, Kerry, McCain, Graham, Boehner and Cantor mucking around in the M.E. poweder keg while having not a single clue what they are doing. Now many believe Obama has a purpose to inflate our enemies and hurt our friends. Possible, but he is also ignorant and its like Reagan said, it isn’t that Obama knows nothing, it’s that so much of what he knows, just isn’t true.
Worse than a cave in. It is betrayal.
Any US action that doesn’t:
1. Deprive both sides of access to Syrian WMDs
2. Equally injure both sides
3. Protect murdered minorities, especially Christians.
Is a prescription to put al Qaeda in control of Syria with access to WMDs and a free hand to engage in ethnic cleansing.
Not to be argumentative, but I see it a little different.
The illegals are here to swamp us. That’s what our elected officials want. They saturate us with people who don’t understand our system, and game them to oppose solid citizens.
The al Qaeda/Muslim Brotherhood types are brought over by normal legal immigration, and through pseudo ‘refugee’ situations, by manipulation.
They have swamped us with tens of millions of other people from foreign lands who don’t get our founding principles too. We have been swamped by this.
All of this is destructive.
That’s pretty much my take too. What a mess.
I agree sport. Appreciate the nice response.
It worked so well in Egypt, I mean, what could go wrong here?
I agree Sport. Appreciate the nice response.
Didn’t intend to post it the other way.
Rolling over and peeing themselves on demand...
Wow... I’m SO glad we have such ... such.... inspiring LEADERSHIP from our Speaker and his flunkie....
Who here seriously thought No-Balls Boner would not support Obama going to war in Syria?
They aren’t stealth attacks — they spell out for everyone just exactly where they stand, which is 100 percent behind the muzzie takeover of Egypt.
That’s exactly the kind of thing Paultards criticize Zero, and GWB, and anyone who isn’t Rand or Ron — because supporters of Rand and Ron are pro-jihadist demagogues who get their policy positions from LewRockwell dot com.
Trying to hide behind a phony devotion to a part of the Constitution that doesn’t actually exist isn’t a compelling argument to real conservatives.
“Israels interest does not lie with al-qaeda.”
Hmmm. Here it seems like Bibi is saying that Syria is a client state of Iran and the world is watching what response will be given to Assad’s use of chemical weapons (please note Bibi has “no doubt” these attacks were launched by Assad/Hezbollah/Iran/Hitler.
Sounds like Bibi wants war to me...