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On Syria, House GOP won’t follow their leaders On Syria, House GOP won't follow their leaders
Politico ^ | 9/3/13 | By JONATHAN ALLEN and JAKE SHERMAN

Posted on 09/03/2013 5:33:36 PM PDT by JSDude1

The whip count on Syria has become like the war itself: No one in Washington wants to own it alone.

While most top congressional leaders have vowed to back President Barack Obama in seeking authority to launch missile strikes, there’s little evidence that they can — or even want to — help him round up the rank-and file-Republicans he’ll need to win a vote in the House.

Speaker John Boehner’s spokesman said that he “expects the White House to provide answers to members’ questions and take the lead on any whipping effort.” Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), whose aides and allies run the whip process, isn’t yet in favor of Obama’s request for military authority in Syria.

Several lawmakers and aides who have been canvassing support say that nearly 80 percent of the House Republican Conference is, to some degree, opposed to launching strikes in Syria.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/syria-house-gop-96225.html#ixzz2dsaxgEe1

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: antiwar; jakesherman; jonathanallen; politico; randsconcerntrolls; syria; thetitleisthetitleis

1 posted on 09/03/2013 5:33:37 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1
Better yet, they should frag** Boehner and replace him with a new leader.

** figuratively speaking of coarse.

2 posted on 09/03/2013 5:35:36 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: JSDude1

Yea who wants to whip these wimps ?


3 posted on 09/03/2013 5:35:49 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: JSDude1

Latest update on the Republican side.

Newly announced lean nay voters: Sean Duffy (R-WI) Joe Barton (R-TX), Rob Biship (R-UT), Diane BLack (R-TN), Ron Barber (D-AZ), William Enyat (D-IL)


4 posted on 09/03/2013 5:35:49 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: JSDude1

Uh, Boner is not much of a leader to follow, as is proven month after month.


5 posted on 09/03/2013 5:37:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: JSDude1

It’s just those EVIL, OBSTRUCTIONIST REPUBLICANS, doing anything they can to deny THE MEDIA MESSIAH, Barack Obama, a victory, even if it means the slaughter of “THE CHILDREN!”.

Like those EVIL, OBSTRUCTIONIST RUSSIANS in the U.N., they are just racists, who hate the idea of a black President.

SIGNED:
The Mainstream Media


6 posted on 09/03/2013 5:39:57 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: JSDude1

My congressman has been pretty quiet, Amash and Bentivolio in neighboring districts have both said NO.


7 posted on 09/03/2013 5:40:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JSDude1

So does terrorist-promoter and DNC-operative Boehner
REALLY represent???

Answer: al Qaeda and the DNC


8 posted on 09/03/2013 5:44:30 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: JSDude1

The term “whipping” to get ones vote seems a bit racist


9 posted on 09/03/2013 5:45:20 PM PDT by Joshua (:z)
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To: Paladin2
Boner will do whatever his master obama tells him to do. I knew he would support this attack because it is wrong for the country and the party. When it's time to choose sides Boner will always choose the wrong one.
10 posted on 09/03/2013 5:45:22 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags f All Colors)
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To: Viennacon

If Obama goes down in flames in the Congress, the media is going to absolutely nuts with hate....


11 posted on 09/03/2013 5:45:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: cripplecreek

Total list of confirmed ‘NO’ votes on the Republican side.

Amash
Bachmann
Bentivolio
Culberson
DesJarlais
Duncan
Fortenberry
Garrett
Gibson
Huelskamp
Jenkins
Latham
Marino
Massie
McKinley
Meadows
Miller (Jeff)
Miller (Candice)
Nugent
Nunes
Perry
Radel
Ross
Yoder
Yoho
Young (Bill)
Young (Don)

If your congressman or woman is not on this list CALL IN! In fact, even if they are, call in and voice your support and approval.


12 posted on 09/03/2013 5:46:51 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Speaker of the House number - for comments regarding his support for Syrian intervention

202-225-0600


13 posted on 09/03/2013 5:47:54 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: JSDude1
Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), whose aides and allies run the whip process, isn’t yet in favor of Obama’s request for military authority in Syria.

I guess the director hasn't cued him yet.

14 posted on 09/03/2013 5:48:03 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: JSDude1

Check the numbers on Drudge’s poll. Not going well for OBayMe or Boner.


15 posted on 09/03/2013 5:48:43 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Paladin2

Boner is totally pathetic.


16 posted on 09/03/2013 5:50:36 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: JSDude1

My Congressman, John F’n Boehner, has already declared.


17 posted on 09/03/2013 5:57:52 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: JSDude1

80% isn’t very promising considering the democrats are 100%.

I think most of what’s being said now is BS. Congress will approve this, it’ll all go to hell, then democrats will use it as a campaign issue against them in 2014. That’s how stupid the republicans are.


18 posted on 09/03/2013 6:00:27 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ExTexasRedhead

"Doesn't it crack you up when someone mentions 'polls' during a non-election year?"

"Careful - careful! We have to keep a straight face... c'mon, at least TRY!"

19 posted on 09/03/2013 6:01:42 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I heard one poll now says support for attacking is at 20%. The sheeple are falling in line.


20 posted on 09/03/2013 6:02:26 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Viennacon

I don’t see Poe name. I would absolutely shocked it he votes Yea.


21 posted on 09/03/2013 6:06:47 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: cripplecreek
My congressman's office used a sorry excuse of "oh, he's still out in the district", "we haven't been updated on his stance".

Seriously? There's this little instrument called a cell phone, there's also fax machines, or, better yet...why not have him *tweet* his stance on the Syrian strike?

We need a roster of Name and Shame for all of the Reps.

22 posted on 09/03/2013 6:07:36 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: workerbee

23 posted on 09/03/2013 6:09:41 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: JSDude1

((( DRUDGE POLL )))
9/2/13 19:30 PM ET

Thank you for voting!
YES 8.54% (55,291 votes)

NO 91.46% (592,142 votes)

Total Votes: 647,433

Return To Poll


24 posted on 09/03/2013 6:10:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: JSDude1
Giving this team a congressional authorization for military force in Syria is like giving an arsonist a jumbo case of matches, an unlimited supply of gasoline and a truck load of molotov cocktails.
25 posted on 09/03/2013 6:17:31 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Viennacon

From GreenvilleOnline.com

U.S. Reps. Trey Gowdy and Jeff Duncan told constituents tonight that they’re glad President Obama decided to ask Congress before taking military action against Syria for alleged chemical attacks, but they both oppose sending U.S. forces into the civil war there.


26 posted on 09/03/2013 6:20:42 PM PDT by VMI70
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt’s Generals:
‘How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?’
Foreign Policy | 15 Aug 2013 | John Hudson
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055253/posts

Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt’s military — even as Cairo’s security forces massacre anti-government activists.

[by “anti-government activists” is meant church-burning jihadists]

Sen. Cruz Statement on Egypt (Suspend aid over anti-Muslim Brotherhood ‘coup’)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055492/posts

Ted Cruz blames Egyptian violence on Obama’s disregard for foreign aid law
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055589/posts


27 posted on 09/03/2013 6:23:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: JSDude1

Whatever happened to the UAR ?
We got this guy in the White House who likes to pop his mouth off and because of it people die. He picks on some poor security guard just doing his job. Shoots his mouth off because he sees an advantage to push items on his socialist agenda by painting a target on a supporters back. To which his supporters like good socialists they are spin tales of lies and falsehoods that wind up causing a race war in this country. The GOPES (gop Elite Snobs) so called political opposition leadership want to go along with this bad policy on Syria because they don’t wan’t to be blamed for this terrible idea. With the guard which affects the demographics they claim to be reaching out to blacks, hispanics and whites. They say nothing and can’t even call the political opposition for what they are socialist.

OPbama draws some line in the sand on some civil war thats going on in a region who’s outcome really doesn’t threaten US even though a former enemy which is going through its own stuggles has a naval base there. And now we’re supposed to support a military action which could cost American lives in the end....All because our fearless leader spoke ?

The only reliable intell comes from the Israelis and there are times they don’t know. We marched into Iraq the 2nd time thinking we’d be welcome with open arms because of it.Instead the aftermath turns out to be Christians out and Sunni’s in with the Kurds gaining some measure of independence.

But after the 1st dust up when we kicked Iraq out of Kuwait because of oil when the Kurds acted up and Hussain gassed them we did nothing. Now we get this high blown “democracy” b/s about an incident where very likely both sides are reverting to its use. As Syria itself is fragmenting into different identities. Kurdish, Alewite and Suni.

Who really doesn’t want that ? Turks for sure,the Saudis and the Shite principalities. Russia would be OK with it because of their naval base is in the Alewite area.

Now when the Syrians and the Russians start shooting back defending themselves because we’re shooting at them what else would you expect ?

Nuts


28 posted on 09/03/2013 6:24:57 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

You really need to..or find someone that will N O W Primary this loser!


29 posted on 09/03/2013 6:47:09 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: Orange1998
Report from Blue Hawaii as of 9:30pm Eastern time:

Sen. Schatz: will look at evidence - not yet decided
Sen. Hirono: in China & Korea on biz trip, but hasn't decided yet
Rep. Hanabusa: Wow! Not in favor - no legal justification, no national security interest (I must savor this one and only time she is thinking like a Constitutionalist)
Rep: Gabbard: Has headed back to DC for meetings - no statement yet, but she will be looking especially at the endgame of Obama's plan

I recommended to each of their secretaries to look closely at the situation in Libya, which we learn is utter collapse, and that we ask ourselves how we expect Syria to be any different
30 posted on 09/03/2013 6:49:13 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: tcrlaf
.. the media is going to absolutely nuts with hate....


compared to what ?

31 posted on 09/03/2013 6:52:11 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: VMI70

Excellent news!


32 posted on 09/03/2013 6:55:32 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: jobim

Gabbard’s statement

“Right now, we do not have enough facts about all facets of what is occurring on the ground, the factions involved in this civil war, and what the unintended consequences would be for U.S. military involvement. Congressional debate and approval must occur before any U.S. military action is taken, and through this process we need to have a clear-eyed view of our objectives and what the outcomes would be, understanding the impacts in Syria, and those that extend far beyond Syria.”

Sounds like a potential no.


33 posted on 09/03/2013 6:56:49 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Orange1998

King (the Steve variety) has yet to announce either, but he’s a likely nay.


34 posted on 09/03/2013 6:59:40 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Good work posting her statement - I was winging it from a conversation with her office staff. I would agree that she is a potential NO. I know her father Mike, a state senator, and he is one of only 2 senators to oppose homosexual marriage which the governor is attempting to push through at any moment. She served in the military, has more liberal positions than her dad, but I believe he will have an influence on her.


35 posted on 09/03/2013 7:08:10 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: jobim

I think we might get a NO from Schatz too (though he’s in the senate, so it doesn’t matter). Hanabusa will club him with a pro-war vote in what is going to be the bloodiest rat primary in 2014.


36 posted on 09/03/2013 7:26:19 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: VerySadAmerican
80% isn’t very promising considering the democrats are 100%.

I wouldn't be so sure. The Democrat caucus in the House has its share of frothing anti-war moonbats. I don't know how many might go against Obama, but it won't be a unanimous vote in favor.

37 posted on 09/03/2013 7:38:00 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: rdcbn

“Giving this team a congressional authorization for military force in Syria is like giving an arsonist a jumbo case of matches, an unlimited supply of gasoline and a truck load of molotov cocktail.”

That’s exactly what the Gulf of Tonkin resolution turned into. 50,000 American casualties later, the party that started the war, used it’s control over spending to make sure a war that had been won was then lost.


38 posted on 09/03/2013 8:30:04 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: JSDude1
Letter from U.S. Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL)

The 2012 ACU rating of Spencer Bachus was >80%.

Spencer Bachus Writes BHO

August 29, 2013
The Honorable Barack H. Obama
President of the United States of America
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20500-0003

Dear Mr. President:

As the Administration considers options for responding to the events in Syria, I strongly urge you not to undertake any actions involving the use of our U.S. military without providing a full justification to Congress and the American people. It is important that such a presentation be made to Congress except in such cases when we are responding to aggression or an imminent threat against the United States and its interests.

While we all decry the atrocities in Syria and wonder how any regime could treat its people in cruel and inhumane ways, the terms of any potential U.S. military intervention have not yet been appropriately defined or limited. Among the central issues that must be addressed when it comes to the deployment of U.S. military personnel and materiel are the nature of the mission, its achievability and probable results, and its relation to our national security interests. In my view, I have not yet seen this case being made with regard to Syria.

As you know, both Article I of the Constitution and the War Powers Act invest Congress with considerable obligations when it comes to matters involving the use of military force. It is a legal and moral responsibility that I take most seriously and it is why I implore you not to undertake any precipitous action that would bypass our system of checks and balances. Please know that I am in support of Congress reconvening even before our scheduled return date if it is needed for you to present a full report to this body and the American people.

Sincerely,
Spencer Bachus
Member of Congress

39 posted on 09/03/2013 10:24:41 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: JSDude1

A quick note to my Congressman, who has called for an immediate Congressional debate but is yet to go on record in opposition to U.S. military involvement. This is not the time for a fence-sitter.


40 posted on 09/03/2013 10:37:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: JSDude1

BTTT!


41 posted on 09/04/2013 1:22:26 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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