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POLITICO: Senators craft Syria compromise
Politico ^ | 9-3-13 | JOHN BRESNAHAN and MANU RAJU

Posted on 09/03/2013 6:08:07 PM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: tcrlaf

I guarantee, what happened at Pristina Airport during the Kosovo debacle, has stuck in the Russians’ craw ever since.


51 posted on 09/03/2013 7:07:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: no-to-illegals

Operation life line...

Thrown out for Obama and his administration to save face, hoping the American people will just forget all this embarrassing sh*t.


52 posted on 09/03/2013 7:07:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: montag813

This has nothing to do with the M-D complex, and EVERYTHING to do with the Media-Democrat-Academic Socialist Complex.


53 posted on 09/03/2013 7:07:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: dragnet2

No doubt many lives are about to be put on the line.


54 posted on 09/03/2013 7:08:50 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: DManA

Exactly. It’s only limited if a powder keg does not blow up. Russia is bringing more warships in. Syria is hiding human shields in prime target area’s. Iran is on high alert. Jordan is on high alert. Jihadist massing outside Syria.
Stop the insanity!


55 posted on 09/03/2013 7:10:03 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Stop Worrying And Just Learn To Love The Bomb!)
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To: TWhiteBear

“Mr. Obama, in his narcissistic madness, is out to humiliate Mr. Putin and the Russian Federation”

And Putin/The Russians will CLEARLY have the Moral High Ground, as well as the support of much of the world, against a Rogue United States.

How many hundreds of books have been written about almost this exact scenario in the last 40 years?


56 posted on 09/03/2013 7:10:06 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: rawhide

“Anyone ever hear of ‘mission creep’?”

When the first Russian interceptor missle is launched, Obama will certainly feel the creep.


57 posted on 09/03/2013 7:12:04 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: dfwgator

“what happened at Pristina Airport during the Kosovo debacle, has stuck in the Russians’ craw ever since.”

How Obama screwed over the Russians in Libya hasn’t been forgotten, either.


59 posted on 09/03/2013 7:14:21 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Jane Long
Like Rush said, today...

Why are we talking about the details of it? Why are we talking about when, where, how, what? That alone proves that this is political, as everything Obama and the Democrats do is political.


60 posted on 09/03/2013 7:17:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: dfwgator

I seem to remember the Pristina Airport debacle was a bright spot for the Russians, standing up to the United States.


61 posted on 09/03/2013 7:19:29 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: madprof98
Im all for that, I would be cheering

this is just another purse snatching.

they pushed Sadaam down and took his money, then Ghaddaffy, now its time to hit Assad. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18897218

Who knows....maybe the Saudis are next ?, that would be a major purse snatching !

62 posted on 09/03/2013 7:23:30 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: rawhide

When Wesley Clark almost got us into WWIII.


63 posted on 09/03/2013 7:24:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Clark is/was a military advisor to obamma.


64 posted on 09/03/2013 7:28:02 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
Clark is/was a military advisor to obamma.

Just gives you a warm fuzzy don't it?

65 posted on 09/03/2013 7:28:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DManA

The world is a powder keg. You think Iran, NK, China, Russia are going to sit on their hands with the American military tied up in Syria? No way hose.


66 posted on 09/03/2013 7:29:31 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: Navy Patriot

We were told it would be HOURS. Now it is months...


67 posted on 09/03/2013 7:31:07 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Syria and allies have the right to respond against American assets anywhere, anytime, as they see fit until a formal cessation of hostilities.


No, Syria will have only 30 days to respond. I can’t tell you about it now but will be able to answer your question in a classified hearing tomorrow.


68 posted on 09/03/2013 7:34:11 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: tcrlaf

Considering most all Republicans will be for it in the end, it is more than just libs who are the problem.


69 posted on 09/03/2013 7:35:12 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: tcrlaf

Sounds like Bashar al-Assad is on double secret probation.


70 posted on 09/03/2013 7:36:02 PM PDT by radec
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To: tcrlaf

This is utter bullshit by a leaderless country with gutless enablers in the Congress.


71 posted on 09/03/2013 7:40:35 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: PghBaldy

I’m beginning to think the House is going to vote this down, BIG-TIME, based on the whip counts I’ve been seeing.

And DEMOCRATS are clamoring for blood at almost 3-1 rate to Repubs.


72 posted on 09/03/2013 7:41:47 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

mitch says he is against it but negotiates behind closed doors making him a LYING POS WHICH WE ALL KNOW THAT HE TRULY IS. DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS BASTARD AGAIN PEOPLE!


73 posted on 09/03/2013 7:50:12 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt’s Generals:
‘How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?’
Foreign Policy | 15 Aug 2013 | John Hudson
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055253/posts

Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt’s military — even as Cairo’s security forces massacre anti-government activists.

[by “anti-government activists” is meant church-burning jihadists]

Sen. Cruz Statement on Egypt (Suspend aid over anti-Muslim Brotherhood ‘coup’)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055492/posts

Ted Cruz blames Egyptian violence on Obama’s disregard for foreign aid law
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055589/posts


74 posted on 09/03/2013 8:06:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: tcrlaf

I can see the House voting it down and the kenyan ordering bombs away anyway. This is going to get UGLY. Moochelle at a rib cook-off UGLY.


75 posted on 09/03/2013 8:19:12 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

EXACTLY....
And reading Russian Press, you can tell they think that is going to happen, too.

Putin put a trip-line in front of Obama, and then dared him to cross it. Obama immediately crapped his pants, and went running to Congress for “approval”.

When he doesn’t get it, he’ll attck anyway, trip-line or not, and blame those meany Repubs for “Obstructing”.


76 posted on 09/03/2013 8:22:24 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: SunkenCiv
You're right. Ted Cruz and Rand Paul were no help on Egypt. In fact, it is safe to say that no one in Congress understands what is really going on in the Middle East.

Rush's disclosure of the truth today was the first mass media disclosure of the truth, the first major chink in the armor of the deceptors. Rush deserves another medal from us for that poke at the Establishment. He took a big personal risk. With that, we may be able to get Congress to listen.

I am frankly amazed at how long it has taken for Freepers to see the light.

77 posted on 09/03/2013 8:39:28 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: tcrlaf
A new use-of-force resolution for Syria sets a 60-day deadline, with one 30-day extension possible, for President Barack Obama to launch military strikes against the regime of Syria President Bashar Assad — and it will also bar the involvement of U.S. ground forces in Syria.

Let’s get this straight: We will, for a minimum of 60 days (with a possible 30 day extension), attack Syria because Assad’s regime is supposedly guilty of using chemicals and gas to kill the Syrian people. We still are not really sure it was Assad…it could have been the rebels, infiltrated with Jihadists. Which is why we cannot get any of our allies to back any military action. But, that is not important. Obama wants to make a move that proves he is a man of his word about that “red line,” that is the priority for him now.

So, supposedly we are only going to strike the targets where damage can be done to the supplies of chemicals and the devises used to dispel them. Of course all this has been told to the world so that whoever used the chemicals has had the opportunity to hide everything that they do not want destroyed. We strike…people are bound to be killed…perhaps as many as were killed by the chemicals.

But death by bombs or missiles or drones is not as distasteful to our Administration as death by chemicals, I guess. And for what point are we doing this? The strike does not bring those people, who died from the chemicals and gasses, back to life. But, Obama says we must strike… and after 60-90 days we tell them we are going to stop.

And so they wait…and then the guilty parties trot out their chemicals and gasses again and thumb their noses at the U.S. and all was in vain. Sounds like Obama has a great plan to waste our money, our military, and needless to say, more Syrian lives. Just what a Nobel Peace Prize winner should do.

78 posted on 09/03/2013 8:44:50 PM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: tcrlaf
A new use-of-force resolution for Syria sets a 60-day deadline, with one 30-day extension possibleReally? hahah....really? That is already on the books; these Senators haven't crafted anything; f-ing pussies.
79 posted on 09/03/2013 8:58:02 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: tcrlaf

Sometimes Ann can sound a bit shrill, yet this time, I think she pretty much nails it with the only explanation so far than makes any sense as far as behavior of President Dystopia and the American legislature: The MB must have the drop on Obama and they are ready to expose him as a fraud/foreigner/funder of MB, unless he does their bidding and bombs the crap out of Damascus.
http://www.barnhardt.biz/2013/09/03/toldya-like-clockwork/


80 posted on 09/03/2013 9:11:08 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: tcrlaf

Is this like the immigration “compromise”?


81 posted on 09/03/2013 9:15:25 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

Why do these congresspeople hate us?


82 posted on 09/03/2013 9:18:50 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: ogen hal

“Why do these congresspeople hate us?”

The voters are dupes. This government is totally out of control. It’s on auto-pilot.


83 posted on 09/03/2013 9:23:10 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: DManA

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- Obama & Congress go for drinks at the White House

- Our sons and daughters die in another meaningless war

- If anything must be done because of real threat to America :

A - troops at our borders

B - drop a few big ones like Truman did - but this time walk away

.


84 posted on 09/03/2013 9:41:49 PM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- get your hands off my wallet you damned dirty clown ----- ----- -----)
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To: tcrlaf

letting Obama have his way is a “compromise”??

*sigh*


85 posted on 09/03/2013 9:47:27 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: tcrlaf

You know, a few weeks ago Obama told us that he could have been Trayvon, or vice versa. We all balked at the rhetoric, but now, upon reflection, how right he’s turning out to be.

Like Trayvon, Obama feels the need to escalate a situation where he could just as easily peacefully go about his business. He’s made that turn to head back up to the “T” intersection because of one reason and one reason only…he feels he’s been “dissed”. Zimmerman, reason Trayvon, has disrespected him by following him, and had to have his ass whooped to show him who was the tough guy. Likewise, Obama drew his “red line” and Assad disrespected him, and crossed it. And now Assad needs some whoop ass, so that people wont think that Obama is weak (much like Trayvon likely had to impress Rachel).

We know how Trayvon ended. He attacked a guy with the gun and, when cornered, showed the willingness to use it. We DONT know how Obama’s story will end, but then again, neither did Trayvon when he set out.

Trayvon does have one thing over Obama, however; He at least had the courage to double back himself, stupid as it was, do dish out the whoop ass. Obama will send young men and women to do his fighting for him, to prove what a bad-ass he is.


86 posted on 09/03/2013 9:50:23 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: rawhide
Anyone ever hear of ‘mission creep’?

My dad was a Green Beret in the sixties. He learned all about mission creep in Vietnam.

87 posted on 09/03/2013 11:27:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Navy Patriot

What do we call it when a nation does a “first strike” on another nation....is it not an act of war?....It doesn’t matter what the motive is...Syria, Iran and Russia will have every right to retaliate in any way they see fit...not to mention even Lebanon.

It won’t take Obama 60 days to screw up the entire world....his first strike will be the match to set the whole thing off...and I don’t think it will happen all at once...these are middle easterners....they do it in their time and as we know are patient until everything they are going to throw at you is in place.

Our fear should be...the cells remaining in this country..and the Muslims who call themselves moderates....they may very well “spike” things here.


88 posted on 09/03/2013 11:38:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: FlyingEagle

He won’t be the one who bombs Damascus....Israel will IMO. But Obama is the one now setting the stage....Israel knows better then to trust Obama..and so don’t all the other nations....and he’s giving them all plenty of time to position themselves.

I get very uncomfortable thinking about the cells in our nation as this “beast” rises to war.....


89 posted on 09/03/2013 11:43:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: FlyingEagle
The MB must have the drop on Obama and they are ready to expose him as a fraud/foreigner/funder of MB, unless he does their bidding and bombs the crap out of Damascus.

I've seen multiple reports on that from different sources. I think Walid Shoebat was the first I saw to report on it, and he's a trusted source around these parts.

It makes complete sense that Obama is being blackmailed by the Muslim Brotherhood to bomb Damascus for them. In fact, it's the only thing that makes sense of what's going on here.

90 posted on 09/03/2013 11:57:17 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dfwgator

Many other countries don’t have the short attention span we do, for sure.


91 posted on 09/04/2013 1:51:05 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: tcrlaf

What about 0bamascare?


92 posted on 09/04/2013 1:59:59 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: tcrlaf

Once again, the Democrats propose to tear down the Washington Monument, and the Republicans respond with a plan to do it in three stages.


93 posted on 09/04/2013 4:35:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: tcrlaf

Oh, I feel so much better now.
(hurl)


94 posted on 09/04/2013 6:14:37 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: DManA

“It doesn’t matter a whit what they pass. Nobody can predict what’s going to happen after the first bomb goes off.”

and with this administration and their fawning press groupies, no one will be held responsible.

Well, except maybe Bush.


95 posted on 09/04/2013 6:15:42 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: tcrlaf

Great. The US military is going to fight people whom we don’t want to attack, led by a Commander in Chief who is NOT on their (or our) side, and provoke enemies we can’t afford.
How big of a catastrophe is this going to be?


96 posted on 09/04/2013 6:27:39 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: tcrlaf

They’re crafting, if you please. Crafting a compromise, mmm-mmmm.

Oh, to be a fly on that wall.

“Hey, did anybody hear the one about the four Americans in Benghazi?”


97 posted on 09/04/2013 6:28:10 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: tcrlaf

Craft?

These asshats couldn’t craft a sharpened pencil.


98 posted on 09/04/2013 7:15:12 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: caww
What do we call it when a nation does a “first strike” on another nation....is it not an act of war?

Yes. Additionally it is an "act of aggressive warfare" which is international speak for starting a war without just cause or international permission.

There are two criterion for engaging in legal warfare, comply with article 51, which allows for a RESPONSE to an act of war by another nation, or secure permission to use military force from The United Nations Security Council.

In Iraq, G.W. Bush had met both conditions. Obama has neither.

There are huge consequences for being an unlawful aggressor nation, you must win every war and battle forever in the future or face the gallows.

99 posted on 09/04/2013 7:40:02 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: headstamp 2
The voters are dupes. This government is totally out of control. It’s on auto Satan-pilot.

Let's try that and see if it makes more sense.

100 posted on 09/04/2013 7:49:16 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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