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U.S. Air Force Lacks Preparedness for Syria Strike
Israel National News ^ | 9/3/2013 (7:51 PM) | Adam Ross

Posted on 09/03/2013 8:13:17 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh says the U.S. Air Force is not in an ideal place to lead a major Syria offensive...

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1 posted on 09/03/2013 8:13:17 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Inhofe has been warning about the military unpreparedness, should Syria strike back.


2 posted on 09/03/2013 8:17:37 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

He would know.


3 posted on 09/03/2013 8:17:51 PM PDT by radec
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Gen.Welsh was quoted by the Journal of the Air Force on Aug. 28.

He said that Obama’s intent to not make it a ground war would place this at the door of the Air Force.


4 posted on 09/03/2013 8:19:48 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The Air Force is important. I understand that. But no significant military objective can be obtained without boots on the ground.

I say that as a former zoomie.

/johnny

5 posted on 09/03/2013 8:21:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It would. The Block 50 F-16’s and Navy/Marine Prowler/Growler aircaft would have to lead every mission so other aircraft can enter the airspace.

It was done in Libya. But, it took 8 months and a whole lotta money to get it done.


6 posted on 09/03/2013 8:24:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"...a major Syria offensive..."

WTF? First word was 'lobbing a few cruise missles' -- something lasting no more than 48 hours. Earlier today, there was talk of 60 days, with an option of 30 more. Now -- a major offensive?

I repeat: WTF?

NO, NO, NO!!!!

7 posted on 09/03/2013 8:25:37 PM PDT by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: JRandomFreeper

What’s a “zoomie”?


8 posted on 09/03/2013 8:26:55 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Our president made a whole series of headlines not long ago by summarily firing an entire stable full of very experienced military men. What effect will this have, if any, on the expanded war he wants against Syria? Asking because his actions against so many high- ranking officers was so unusual. And I didn’t catch any explanations. ??????


9 posted on 09/03/2013 8:27:31 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: laplata
A member of the United States Air Force.

/johnny

10 posted on 09/03/2013 8:28:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Viennacon

“Inhofe has been warning about the military unpreparedness, should Syria strike back.”

What about counter-attacks from China & Russia? This is a trap.


11 posted on 09/03/2013 8:29:17 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: JRandomFreeper

This Grunt thanks you.

We didn’t Zoom, we Humped.


12 posted on 09/03/2013 8:31:10 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: stars & stripes forever
This is a trap.

I think it's a standard issue cluster {redacted} that's going to get a lot of people killed.

/johnny

13 posted on 09/03/2013 8:31:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Killing a bunch of Russians will piss off Putin.


14 posted on 09/03/2013 8:32:32 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata
Mainly, I sat in a swivel chair with a cup of coffee. It's the Air Force way. ;)

/johnny

16 posted on 09/03/2013 8:33:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; All

Obama said “no boots on the ground.”

Boots on the ground= impeachment


17 posted on 09/03/2013 8:33:59 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: DJ Frisat

“We start carpet bombing in 30 minutes”


18 posted on 09/03/2013 8:36:04 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Obama said his birth certificate was real

Not real = impeachment.


19 posted on 09/03/2013 8:36:28 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: JRandomFreeper

No comment. REMF :)


20 posted on 09/03/2013 8:36:34 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Viennacon
The unanswered question remains, What will Russia and China do?Even an Obama voter has the intelligence to know that sooner or later Obama is going to attack Assad to pull Al Quida's and the muslim brotherhood's chestnuts out of the fire.

The only wildcard is, What will Russia and China do?

21 posted on 09/03/2013 8:36:36 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Laugh at us more?


22 posted on 09/03/2013 8:37:40 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
AF might be able to gain air superiority. Maybe. And they can hit C3I, but they can't secure nerve gas or capture important players from 15,000 ft. That requires boots on the ground. Period.

/johnny

23 posted on 09/03/2013 8:38:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: laplata
I chose wisely. ;)

/johnny

24 posted on 09/03/2013 8:39:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; All

Congress would have to authorize it.

Due to Obozo’s self-imposed limitations on Syria, Congress now controls him in this regard.

We need a stronger Congress, and a weaker Executive anyway, as things have gotten out of hand, Constitutionally speaking.


25 posted on 09/03/2013 8:43:35 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Forget impeachment. As FReeper Old Sarge, I believe it was wrote, Obama could eat new born babies in the White House dining room and all the reaction he would get would be the media and Republicans complimenting him on his table manners. There is nothing under the sun that Obama could do to cause him to be impeached and the chances are even more remote that he would be removed from office.


26 posted on 09/03/2013 8:43:56 PM PDT by sport
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To: Viennacon

I don’t think that is possible. Maybe less, but not more.


27 posted on 09/03/2013 8:47:04 PM PDT by sport
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To: JRandomFreeper

One of my brother’s will retire from the USAF next year.

You guys lived better in Nam than we lived back in the States. LOL


28 posted on 09/03/2013 8:55:41 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Is this general still on active duty? If he is, he may be relieved of command very soon.


29 posted on 09/03/2013 9:09:23 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: sport

That’s the $17 trillion question. I don’t think China will do anything militarily, but they could be a real pain in the back on some other front (economics). Russia is the real wildcard. What will they do? How much commitment to they have with Syria?


30 posted on 09/03/2013 9:09:26 PM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

Re. 0dumb0’s ill-fated and down right stupid “red line” ultimatum, I hope that Putin & Russia kicks 0dumb0’s ass really hard irregardless of what happens in or to Syria. Go Putin! FUBO!!!


31 posted on 09/03/2013 9:52:05 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: sport

If they are smart, just continue watching the U.S. implode.

China in particular needs to do nothing. Their investment in SE Asia dwarfs America’s.


32 posted on 09/03/2013 9:56:39 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: laplata
You had an open air room and had to keep your arms away from the netting?
33 posted on 09/03/2013 10:06:46 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Domangart

Are you a Vet?


34 posted on 09/03/2013 10:08:37 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Domangart

I’m talking about Fort Polk, LA in 1971. Old, dilapidated World War II barracks.

From what I saw, the Navy and Air Force lived better than that in Nam.


35 posted on 09/03/2013 10:17:21 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata
No I was a guest of 1st flight, 90 SOS at Nha Trang. They gave me this nice bunker where the sand bags were a foot from the top. (They lived in ac buildings). We were on separate rats and traded our booze for the meat from the White Horse Div who got vegetable's. I had to shoot the dogs and run Golden flow. Then they sent me to three bases that were closed.
36 posted on 09/03/2013 10:28:42 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Domangart

Uh, okay.


37 posted on 09/03/2013 10:31:16 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

We bombed that backwater Serbia for Moslems but 20 years hence with improved technologies we can’t bomb this place?

Who would have thought.


38 posted on 09/03/2013 11:19:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

I guess “Team Saudi Arabia World Police” isn’t what they used to be.


39 posted on 09/03/2013 11:20:41 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JRandomFreeper

“The Air Force is important. I understand that. But no significant military objective can be obtained without boots on the ground.”

Agreed. Dunkirk. All those Brits and free French rescued off that beach would’ve been captured or killed en masse had the Germans done more than just strafe them.

Winning wars has always been about taking ground away from the guy who’s trying to hold it. You can’t do that with air power alone.


40 posted on 09/04/2013 12:21:05 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: virgil

“How much commitment to they have with Syria?”

How much commitment do we have to the naval base at Guantanamo? Syria is the Russian navy’s warm water port in the Mediterranean. Strategically, it’s close to the Suez Canal and Black Sea. Having a port there gives Russia the ability to move ships and troops from the Black Sea through the Suez into the Indian Ocean very quickly. I would fight for it if I were Putin. Obama is playing a dangerous game.


41 posted on 09/04/2013 12:27:01 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Vendome

Serbia didn’t have much in the way of an IADS. Whether Syria’s Russian-made one is any good remains to be see. Hopefully we get to not find out.


42 posted on 09/04/2013 12:37:56 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
...Obama’s intent to not make it a ground war...

Not sure what the Fairy King's intent is, but after the air war causes more problems than it fixes, you can be sure that Barry'n'John will be back on the Hill begging for ground troops.

FUBO, FUJF'nK.

43 posted on 09/04/2013 12:52:55 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This is for show, so Obama can appear to be ‘tough’.


44 posted on 09/04/2013 1:27:23 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

They weren’t in an ideal place to help the Americans at Benghazi, either. This seems to be a recurring theme.


45 posted on 09/04/2013 1:29:30 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I sat in a swivel chair with a cup of coffee

Swivel chairs are fun to zoom in. Also, it takes skill to make the turns without spilling the coffee.

46 posted on 09/04/2013 2:52:28 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Boy I tell you, it is nothing like telling the enemy (or not) you are fixing to strike, bomb or kiss what your capabilites are.

What a bunch of dumb sonsabitches these people are.

I guess next they will tell them when to turn their radars on when the sortie is up in the air and give them the count down when they push the button 10 9 8 7 ......

Obama and his queer hench men.......crapola...


47 posted on 09/04/2013 3:06:51 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Viennacon

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/28/the-u-s-weapons-systems-that-experts-say-were-hacked-by-the-chinese/

A lot of the hacking was already done. It’s scary to put our troops into harms way knowing some of our most classified, and even most basic military hardware is compromised.


48 posted on 09/04/2013 4:26:15 AM PDT by Patriot95
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To: sport

“Even an Obama voter has the intelligence...”

Uhhhhh, wrong...;-)

There is no intelligent Obama voter...

I have searched the world over, in WalMarts, Church’s Fried Chicken restarants, and Chuckie’s Soul Food Emporium...And zip, zero, nada...

No signs of intelligence in those recon missions...

Even though I did find a good case of gas afterwards...;-)


49 posted on 09/04/2013 11:15:07 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Patriot95
it not the worst that is happening. The worst thing is when compromised hardware components/spare parts are built into these weapon systems without hardware hack being detected.

Military subcontractors purchase parts made by Chicom companies in China controlled by PLA. In the end, Pentagon may get more than bargained for - Chicoms holding kill switch or capability to reassign targets.

50 posted on 09/04/2013 11:29:03 AM PDT by DTA (Hands off Syria !)
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