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Pelosi scrambling, if not whipping, for House Democratic votes on Syria
The Hill ^ | 09/03/13 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 09/04/2013 1:44:17 PM PDT by neverdem

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has launched an aggressive campaign designed to maximize Democratic support for President Obama’s proposal for U.S. military strikes on war-torn Syria.

The California Democrat emphasized Tuesday that she and other Democratic leaders would not twist arms with a formal whip of a Syria vote. But in a press conference at the White House, and then in a letter sent to all her troops, Pelosi is laying out a very public case for intervention with an unequivocal humanitarian message aimed to rally wary Democrats behind their president.

“It is in our national interest to respond to the Syrian government’s unspeakable use of chemical weapons,” Pelosi wrote in her “Dear Colleague” letter. “Indeed, it has been, and remains, a core pillar of our national security — under Democratic and Republican administrations — to prevent, limit, and halt the spread and use of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons.

“This is a matter of national, regional, and global security,” she added.

The remarks come as a number of liberal Democrats are warning that U.S. intervention would do little to help the civilian victims of Syria’s yearslong civil war or unseat the regime of President Bashar Assad. Instead, the critics say another military operation in the Middle East would simply fritter away taxpayer dollars better spent on humanitarian aid to Syria and projects at home.

“We’re in a situation where we’re not going to do anything that’s going to do any good,” Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) said Tuesday in an interview with CNN. “No one in the administration says this will cause regime change, this attack that’s being contemplated. No one in the administration is even saying it will prevent Assad from using chemical weapons again. … There’s no contemplation that any attack that we launch will end the civil war.

“I feel bad about it,” Grayson added, “but sometimes you have to recognize your own limitations. Otherwise, it’s hubris.”

Pelosi conceded that she won’t get every Democrat on board — “Some won’t ever be comfortable with it,” she said — but she’s hoping emerging evidence about Assad’s alleged chemical attacks will convince on-the-fence Democrats that intervention is necessary.

“On these kinds of issues, it’s not a question of whipping, it’s a question of discussion — to make sure that people have the information that they need to make an informed decision, to make sure that they have the full value of the intelligence that says this is how this happened,” she said, following a meeting with Obama and congressional leaders.

“And then members have to decide, are they willing ... to ignore the fact that this humanitarian disaster took place or not?”

Pelosi also argued that the president has the authority to intervene in Syria even if Congress votes against the authorization he’s requested. That puts the Democratic leader at odds with more than 50 liberal Democrats in her camp, who penned a letter to Obama last week warning that any strikes without congressional approval would be unconstitutional.

“While we understand that as Commander in Chief you have a constitutional obligation to protect our national interests from direct attack, Congress has the constitutional obligation and power to approve military force,” the lawmakers wrote.

The debate puts Pelosi in somewhat of a tough spot, as the Democratic leader has often touted Democratic opposition to the Iraq War as a central distinction between the parties. Now, with a Democratic president urging Congress to authorize an unpopular attack in the same region, Obama is counting on Pelosi to deliver the votes.

Pelosi got a good deal of political cover on Tuesday, when Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) both endorsed Obama’s desire to use force against Assad.

“America has a compelling national security interest to prevent and respond to the use of weapons of mass destruction, especially by a terrorist state such as Syria, and to prevent further instability in a region of vital interest to the United States,” Cantor said in a statement.

Still, even some Democratic leaders are withholding their endorsement of a new military campaign. Rep. James Clyburn (S.C.), for instance, said Tuesday that he wants more information before deciding how to vote.

“Issues of war & peace require thoughtful consideration,” Clyburn tweeted. “I reserve judgment on Syria until a resolution and more details are forthcoming.”

Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio), head of the Congressional Black Caucus, has also yet to take a position, her office said Tuesday.

Much will likely depend on the scope of the authorization language. Indeed, many Democrats have been critical that the resolution proposed by the White House over the weekend is too broad.

In response, Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) is crafting alternative language to narrow the powers granted to the White House, his office said Tuesday.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: pelosi; syria

1 posted on 09/04/2013 1:44:17 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

“We have to pass the resolution so you can see what’s in it”


2 posted on 09/04/2013 1:44:59 PM PDT by ken5050 (According to Dick Lugar, I'm a "random outlier." Woo Hoo!!!!)
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To: neverdem

A vote for this is a vote for WW3.


3 posted on 09/04/2013 1:46:03 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DonaldC

Democrats always start the big wars.


4 posted on 09/04/2013 1:47:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: neverdem
Go ahead Nan. Some of us would like to see if the hypocrisy of the democrats in the House knows any bounds.
5 posted on 09/04/2013 1:47:44 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: John Semmens

Thought this was one of yours.


6 posted on 09/04/2013 1:48:34 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DonaldC

Do the democrats want to put the war on the credit card as they claimed W did?

Is this a war for oil?

Show me the WMD’s.


7 posted on 09/04/2013 1:48:53 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: neverdem

Alan, please don't make me have to use this . . .

8 posted on 09/04/2013 1:49:13 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: neverdem

Interesting article, but seriously, “Pelosi” and “whip” do not belong in the same sentence...


9 posted on 09/04/2013 1:50:02 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: neverdem

They know they have the Senate.

The fight will be in the House.

With Boner and Red Nancy in charge, I hold out very little hope.


10 posted on 09/04/2013 1:50:07 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: neverdem
"We’re in a situation where we’re not going to do anything that’s going to do any good,” Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) said Tuesday in an interview with CNN. “No one in the administration says this will cause regime change, this attack that’s being contemplated. No one in the administration is even saying it will prevent Assad from using chemical weapons again. … There’s no contemplation that any attack that we launch will end the civil war. I feel bad about it,” Grayson added, “but sometimes you have to recognize your own limitations. Otherwise, it’s hubris.”

Gaw damn.

Pelosi is so f***ing nuts, she makes Alan Grayson sound sane.

11 posted on 09/04/2013 1:50:10 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: neverdem
Nancy has been in the House since 1987. I wonder if there was a similar authorization of force vote after Saddam used VX gas on the Kurds in '88?

Probably not.

12 posted on 09/04/2013 1:53:12 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: neverdem

Her Troops?! Isn’t weird how the ANTI-WAR LEFT sure loves to use military terminology when it suits them.


13 posted on 09/04/2013 1:56:20 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Lazamataz
Alan Grayson sound sane

Takes a whole lot of crazy to do that...

14 posted on 09/04/2013 1:57:42 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: neverdem

Pelosi is trying to determine which democrats are to be sacrificed at the
alter of WW3.


15 posted on 09/04/2013 2:06:53 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Stop Worrying And Just Learn To Love The Bomb!)
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To: neverdem

But wait!! She had to get counseling from one of her strongest advisors. Top three threads:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=grandson

Pelosi’s Grandson, 5, Says ‘No War’ With Syria (the idiot disagrees - for the children)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3062186/posts

Pelosi Huddles with 5-Year-Old Grandson on Syria [told reporters today she consulted her......]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3062039/posts

Pelosi Uses Conversation With 5-Year-Old Grandson To Push For Attack On Syria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3061991/posts

Just proves a 5 yr old is smarter than pig lousy is in foreign policy matters.


16 posted on 09/04/2013 2:07:53 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: neverdem
Pelosi underwent an electroencephalogram.

Nothing was found. Literally: nothing.

17 posted on 09/04/2013 2:14:47 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: neverdem

Implications, implications about women and children as victims. If that doesn’t work, the issue of rape is used to convince Democrats in favor of military action (see Bosnia).


18 posted on 09/04/2013 3:39:02 PM PDT by familyop
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To: neverdem

Pelosi scrambling to ensure the killing of Syrian Catholics and the endengerment of Israelis by the Jihadis she is supporting


19 posted on 09/04/2013 3:41:39 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: tennmountainman

Not one democrat will lose his or her seat over their vote. Nor will many republicans.


20 posted on 09/04/2013 3:44:29 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: neverdem

I’m absolutely stunned, in disbelief, at what these Dems are doing in shoving more war down America’s throats...all to save “face” for Obama? I shake my head in disbelief. This defies all logic and sense of reality. Unbelievable!


21 posted on 09/04/2013 4:18:58 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: neverdem
Hey Republicans - vote Present!

The Dems want this war, let 'em have it - all to themselves.

22 posted on 09/04/2013 4:34:33 PM PDT by eCSMaster (Palin was right (again)!)
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To: neverdem

The senate will vote first and approve it. This will tell them who has to vote “no” in the house.


23 posted on 09/04/2013 4:47:11 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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