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Justice Department asks court to fix "disparate" civil service exams for minority applicants
Post Standard: Syracuse NY ^ | John O'Brien

Posted on 09/04/2013 4:52:54 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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1 posted on 09/04/2013 4:52:54 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Just score the tests “inversely”—the more incorrect answers the higher the score. That would allow Obama’s sons to be hired and promoted in greater numbers.


2 posted on 09/04/2013 4:56:59 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
the exams "continue to have a statistically significant, disparate impact on African-American test-takers," the Justice Department's lawyers wrote in court papers.

Maybe, just maybe, the tests are race-neutral and fair, and the African-American test-takers have some educational deficiencies that prevent them from doing as well on the tests as Caucasians and Asians.

3 posted on 09/04/2013 4:58:32 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ( July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: House Atreides

Hire the applicants for duty in Detroit


4 posted on 09/04/2013 4:58:53 PM PDT by shadeaud (Stay Thirsty My Friends)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

There is little left to protect.


5 posted on 09/04/2013 4:59:12 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So what makes the test too hard for ‘minorities’? Is he implying they are too stupid? That would be raciss, right?


6 posted on 09/04/2013 5:00:01 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

If they had a test to see who was better at dunking a basketball, would the test be unfair if short, old, non-athletic Whites didn’t do as well as tall, young, athletic Blacks?


7 posted on 09/04/2013 5:00:28 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ( July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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America is becoming a nation of incompetent, stupid,
vicious, amoral, and lawless evil
... and increasingly without justice.

Just as Holder planned when he blew
up the President’s Office in Columbia, and then
dropped WMD on the children at WACO before burning
them alive.


8 posted on 09/04/2013 5:00:45 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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lol

well.. if they are going to go after this... then they need to go after EVERY test ever made!

Because I have noticed a “disparate impact” on retarded test takers which must be addressed !

Why is it that retarded people always do so poorly on tests compared to others! I say it's those darn tests! that are obviously biased towards developmentally challenged individuals!

/s

9 posted on 09/04/2013 5:00:54 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Just Eric “the Red” Holder, takin care a hiz peeps.

Nuthin racist here, nuthin at all.


10 posted on 09/04/2013 5:01:10 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Um... right.

I guess we’re supposed to believe that poor performance by minorities on standardized exams reflects a cultural bias of the exam, and is not a result of cultural influences that ostracize and punish achievers of certain races.

Instead of attacking the messenger (the exam that reveals cultural failure), why doesn’t the Justice department attack the culture that labels achievers as Uncle Toms and encourages laziness and failure?


11 posted on 09/04/2013 5:02:05 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Do they ask about applicants' "Race" on the Exam?

If not, then there is NO WAY they should have to lower standards to make the questions too easy to answer and be rendered a "rubber stamp" for un-qualified applicants.

12 posted on 09/04/2013 5:02:30 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

No longer is there a baseline for competence or a certain level of competence as evidenced by education. Today, they are probably demanding that Certificates of Attendance rather than HS Diplomas be accepted....


13 posted on 09/04/2013 5:02:42 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

These days diversity means anti-white racism. These phony dumbed-down exams are anti-white racism in action.


14 posted on 09/04/2013 5:02:43 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The new plan is called “QUOTAS” and has been ruled illegal. However, that has never stopped Obama and Holder from violating the law.

Article doesn’t say how many blacks/minorities have applied to be firefighters and how many have been hired

They can have DC’s black fire chief. Even his own people don’t want him.


15 posted on 09/04/2013 5:02:52 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

WHY even test them????


16 posted on 09/04/2013 5:03:25 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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ok, so they dumb the test down and then the non-minority test takers all get 100%'s and the minorities don't, then what???

quotas, that's what...

17 posted on 09/04/2013 5:05:48 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: House Atreides

Welfare, bastardy, drugs, black culture, and public education already had their “disparate impact”.

Unbiased tests just reveal that impact.

As would any reality based judgement.


18 posted on 09/04/2013 5:07:00 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Cram black misbehavior down their throats until they change.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So the test is in cursive?


19 posted on 09/04/2013 5:07:01 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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Don’t bother with the criminal background check either... especially for entry level police officer candidates. It’s racist! /s


20 posted on 09/04/2013 5:07:31 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

>>When city officials settled a reverse discrimination lawsuit last year, they said they’d been talking with Justice Department officials about rewording the 1980 decree to ensure that black firefighters filled fill a higher proportion of supervisory positions.<<

Yes — EEO hires with bricks on the scales. What could go wrong?

Soon, anyone with any sense will recoil in terror when they see a Black firefighter, KNOWING said firefighter doesn’t know what the hell he is doing.

And I flat-out won’t accept a Black lawyer or Doctor. Not from racism but b/c I know they got in without being able to qualify.


21 posted on 09/04/2013 5:09:17 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. (Yogi Berra))
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having lower intelligence and lower education has consequences. we already have enough thugs with badges - of all colors. if they can’t pass tests it’s because of themselves, not anyone else. we’ve already dumbed down physical requirements for cops and firemen so women could start passing tests.


22 posted on 09/04/2013 5:09:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: freedumb2003

and when the dumbass black cop stops you, who doesn’t know the law but makes it up how he wants, then what?!?


23 posted on 09/04/2013 5:11:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

30 YEARS? WOW! Long memories when it comes to making whitey pay!!! Does anyone doubt that’s what this creep in the WH and his advisers are all about?


24 posted on 09/04/2013 5:12:25 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They want to spot minorities points based on how dark their skin is.


25 posted on 09/04/2013 5:13:24 PM PDT by GeronL
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No....but when you say “fire hose” to a black man he thinks your talking about firing baby mommas who work!

As in....”Why u wanna be firing ho’s..They be keeping me styling...

26 posted on 09/04/2013 5:15:52 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Rush Said something on today’;s show about “Soft Racism” being something that kills initiative, dammit the quote is on the tip of my tongue


27 posted on 09/04/2013 5:25:17 PM PDT by GraceG
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OK....ALL of you DEMOCRATS especially BLACK DEMOCRATS have FINALLY convinced me, so since you all believe it that you aren’t SMART ENOUGH or STRONG ENOUGH to handle things and do the jobs that whites can do and you need to be taken care of, who am I to argue??? UNCLE!!!!! I GIVE UP!!!


28 posted on 09/04/2013 5:25:47 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This PC action will lead to the deaths of innocent people.


29 posted on 09/04/2013 5:26:38 PM PDT by I want the USA back
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Found it!

” It’s called the soft bigotry of low expectations.”

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/09/04/don_t_let_liberals_ruin_your_life


30 posted on 09/04/2013 5:26:49 PM PDT by GraceG
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Low expectations are “soft racism”, but they have brought this on themselves and they don’t even realize it!!


31 posted on 09/04/2013 5:26:55 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

>>and when the dumbass black cop stops you, who doesn’t know the law but makes it up how he wants, then what?!?<<

“Smile for my cell-cam.”

Followed by “see you in court.”

In between a WHOLE LOT OF “yes, sir” “no sir” and “whatever you say sir.”

Some situations you choose. Some choose you.

That is why I said people will and should feel fear about a Black EEO firefighter. But he is sent there to save you and you have to pray you get lucky.


32 posted on 09/04/2013 5:31:33 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. (Yogi Berra))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Dumb them down until blacks can pass them? Wow.
Welcome to Ubama’s “post racial” America.


33 posted on 09/04/2013 5:33:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I feel safer already.


34 posted on 09/04/2013 5:33:25 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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What a bunch of anti-white BS!

Time to get up off our knees...


35 posted on 09/04/2013 5:34:10 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: GraceG

“The soft bigotry of low expectations.”
I believe that’s the phrase Rush used.


36 posted on 09/04/2013 5:35:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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These tests aren’t fair: They require ‘reedin’, ritin’, and ‘rythmetic.


37 posted on 09/04/2013 5:47:38 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Hey just call any government office and and the how this practice works out part is obvious. Sorry but good better and best ended with Sears and Roebuck.


38 posted on 09/04/2013 5:51:36 PM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not just selectively for Democrats.)
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To: traditional1

No. The test asks, “Where do you find the fire hose?

Holder’s people thought they were asking where do you find the five ho’s. They answered MLK Blvd....wrong answer.


39 posted on 09/04/2013 5:53:35 PM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: bk1000
"So what makes the test too hard for ‘minorities’?"

Maybe the tests are written in cursive.

40 posted on 09/04/2013 5:57:03 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
On June 11 obamamugabe and Eric the red's Dept of Just Us sued Dollar General in an attempt to force the company to quit using criminal background checks during the hiring process because it had a "disparate effect on people of color".

At some point Dollar General in Dearborn had hired Lavere Bryant, an ex con with rape, home invasion and weapons convictions. He was eventually fired due to sexual harassment charges.

In July he went to another Dollar General, shot and killed employee Joseph Orlando. He then kidnapped Brenna Machus, raped her and shot her in the head.

Brenna and Joseph are White, Bryant is black.

41 posted on 09/04/2013 6:04:30 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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States raise privacy concerns over health law [ObamaCare] navigators (08/17/2013)
“Because of time constraints, HHS [is] cutting back on the requirement to become a navigator, meaning they're not going to be doing background checks. They're not going to be fingerprinting these people,” said [Florida Attorney General Pam] Bondi in an interview with Fox.

. . .

A navigator is a federal employee who helps those wanting to get insured navigate the paperwork of the new healthcare system.

“What if they've been convicted of committing identity theft or grand theft before?” asked Bondi. “They could potentially still become a navigator.”

Earlier this week, Bondi and a dozen other Republican state attorneys general sent HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius a letter calling her attention to this privacy issue and asking her to implement more stringent privacy requirements and safeguards. They’ve given Sebelius until Aug. 28 to respond.


42 posted on 09/04/2013 6:05:21 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; kingattax

Some New Sample Questions: (perhaps these will even things up a bit)

1. If a Baby Momma be boppin 2 bro, who B da Daddy?
2. A ebt can be swapped fo how much drank?
3. Translate this sentence:

Yo Bro Ho De Do Fo De Po Ho.

4. What is the correct way to hold a sidearm?
a. With Both hands, thumbs low
b. Sidewise

5. Describe the proper procedure for running away with your pants around your ankles.

6. The amount of butt crack that should be visible when properly attired should be:

a. Zero
b. two inches
c. The entire thang

7. Who is Bob Zimmerman?
a. A vicious murderer
b. a creepy ass cracka
c. A Folk Singer/Songwriter from the Midwest who went electric at the Newport Folk Festival, thus enraging Pete Seger, and changing rock music forever.
d. All of the above.

8. How many of the above questions are raciss?
a. Numbers 1.3,and 8
b. Number 7, choice b.
c. all of the above

9. When fighting a fire in a dense urban area, the best procedure in a commercial establishment would be:
a. Make sure all civilians are out of the store
b. Break plate glass windows to release smoke
c. Remove all the plasma wide screen HD TV’s for redistribution.


43 posted on 09/04/2013 6:06:41 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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>>Yo Bro Ho De Do Fo De Po Ho.<<’

Threadwin! lol


44 posted on 09/04/2013 6:15:34 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. (Yogi Berra))
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To: exDemMom; All
Instead of attacking the messenger (the exam that reveals cultural failure), why doesn’t the Justice department attack the culture that labels achievers as Uncle Toms and encourages laziness and failure?

Because to do that they have to admit the existence of merit, objectivity, and reality.

They cannot do that, because if they do, their whole worldview, that made them very rich and very powerful by promoting these lies, is undercut.

So they cannot and they will not.

45 posted on 09/04/2013 6:16:40 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: DJ Taylor

“So what makes the test too hard for ‘minorities’?”
Maybe the tests are written in cursive.”

You owe me a keyboard!


46 posted on 09/04/2013 6:18:04 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: freedumb2003

Why Thank You! ;-)


47 posted on 09/04/2013 6:19:34 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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Yo Bro Ho De Do Fo De Po Ho.

Hey Brother, hold the door for the poor woman.

Did I get it right?

48 posted on 09/04/2013 6:25:03 PM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: raybbr

Well Done!

You’re hired! :-)

Cut me some slack, jack!


49 posted on 09/04/2013 6:27:02 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I sure MISREAD that headline.

I was sure it was going to refer to the direct discrimination of STRAIGHT, WHITE MALES, who are undoubtedly the largest minority in the Nation.


50 posted on 09/04/2013 6:30:47 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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