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Obama's 'I didn't set no stinkin' red line' assertion leads to near universal incredulity
American Thinker ^ | 09/05/2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 09/05/2013 6:51:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Yesterday, editor in chief Lifson reported on the astonishing claim by President Obama that he didn't set a redline for chemical wepons in Syria and that his credibility was not on the line.

Lifson pointed to a meeting of Obama's political team where the message on Syria was being massaged. If this is the best they could come up with - simply denying reality - then the president is in a world of hurt.

The reality, as Jean Kaufman (Neo-Neocon) points out this morning at PJ Media is undeniable:

"I didn't set a red line. The world set a red line."

But in his statement back in August of 2012, Obama unequivocally and undeniably did set a red line. Watch the video, and note especially around 2:07-2:08 when he gestures to himself and says, with emphasis, "us," and his back-and-forth use of the terms "we," "us," and "I" to mean the same thing: himself, or his administration with himself in charge. At no point does he cite the international community, except earlier in his statement when he speaks briefly and generally about the international community's role in a possible eventual transition from the Assad regime to a new government in Syria.

Kaufman takes apart Obama's answer from his press conference in Sweden. Here it is in its entirety:

Let me unpack the question. First of all, I didn't set a red line. The world set a red line. The world set a red line when governments representing 98 percent of the world's population said the use of chemical weapons are abhorrent and passed a treaty forbidding their use even when countries are engaged in war. Congress set a red line when it ratified that treaty.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: obama; redline; syria
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To: SeekAndFind

And the media will slavishly erase his previous words where he did set a red line.

Under the soviet union, they went into the history books and rewrote history to promote their agenda. No different from what is happening here.


21 posted on 09/05/2013 7:16:54 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: don-o

I guess Montana is off the grid.


22 posted on 09/05/2013 7:17:13 AM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: warchild9

yes money makes a difference
but money can’t vote
Politicians know that
and they absolutely do pay attention to their votrs phone calls

the Tea Party changed the balance
But let’s say you don’t believe it
why wouldn’t you make a phone call anyway?
Just 30 sec of your time
why wouldn’t you call?


23 posted on 09/05/2013 7:21:18 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: SeekAndFind

24 posted on 09/05/2013 7:22:42 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (If govmt is stockpiling guns, ammo, food, & meds, don't you think it's a good idea to do the same?)
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To: Sicvee

That struck me as funny also. I guess Montana gets its news once a week by stagecoach? I could have sworn last time I stayed in Billings there was at least one black and white TV station and an AM transmitter on the hill.


25 posted on 09/05/2013 7:23:22 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is sounding like Bart Simpson...”I didn’t do it...nobody saw me do it”


26 posted on 09/05/2013 7:24:05 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: rockrr

He really has no skill at that either. If we had a responsible media he would be toast.


27 posted on 09/05/2013 7:26:16 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: RWGinger

I won’t call because my congressman is a democratic party hack who toes the line.

My district was gerrymandered several years ago to protect four surrounding red districts, which left voters like myself in the lurch.

Also, I’m not so naive to think my voice speaks louder than campaign contributions. I learned this at an early age when I volunteered to do some door-knocking in Raleigh to lobby about dog fighting. They wouldn’t even let us in the door without a pledged bribe.

Only a teenager or a silly goose thinks Washington feeds on anything other than money.


28 posted on 09/05/2013 7:28:52 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: SeekAndFind

29 posted on 09/05/2013 7:38:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Didn’t the “Jedi mind trick” actually work in the movie?


30 posted on 09/05/2013 7:39:54 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Sicvee

Or, it could be that a man decides to unplug? Ya think?


31 posted on 09/05/2013 7:45:45 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He is a liar. A continuous liar.


32 posted on 09/05/2013 7:47:39 AM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: don-o

Greta was interviewing Rumsfeld last night and when she referred to that statement, Rummy was gobsmacked. He said he had been in Montana and and not heard that Obama said that. He was somewhat at a loss for words.

____________________

The words he should have said: This is a lie.


33 posted on 09/05/2013 7:50:47 AM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: warchild9

The insult aside no matter how much a big biz gives any candidate the candidate still needs actual votes to win .
There have been enough instances the last few years to prove that voters CAN change things

But your mind is made up.
Thank goodness there are still people open minded and willing to make an effort to change things.


34 posted on 09/05/2013 7:58:54 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: SeekAndFind
President Thurm...

"I didn't set a Red Line.....you're the one who set a Red Line. I think it's funny that you actually would think I set a Red Line."

35 posted on 09/05/2013 8:02:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RWGinger

There’s a reason why elections don’t change things.

Think about it.

The same people remain in charge, no matter the puppet in the White House.

Both my Senators—an R and a D—are strongly backing this new war.

My governor—a very conservative man—is backing the war while my congressman—a leftist by any measure—is doing the same.

Why? Because elections cost MILLIONS of dollars, that’s why.

Presidential elections cost a BILLION.

Golden Rule.


36 posted on 09/05/2013 8:03:41 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: listenhillary
Didn’t the “Jedi mind trick” actually work in the movie?

Yes. And it will work for a majority here. Remember: "The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded."
37 posted on 09/05/2013 8:07:11 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

He must have been one hideous little kid because he’s grown into an obnoxious,pampered, overindulged big kid. Toots and Gramps must have spoiled him rotten and they certainly instilled him with an over inflated ego.


38 posted on 09/05/2013 8:07:51 AM PDT by surrey
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To: mmichaels1970

He lies soooooo much that he does not even know he is lying.


39 posted on 09/05/2013 8:18:42 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: MWS
This is normal behavior for sociopathic narcissists like Obama. Where there is blame, it can only be assigned to everyone else except themselves. Where there is credit, that belongs solely to them. Hence, he is the only one whose credibility is NOT on the line in regards to this whole Syria fiasco even though he has been the only one talking about “red lines”, while he all but pulled the trigger himself when it came to taking down Osama.

Obama is becoming so unhinged, he just might have a "Captain Queeg" moment any day now.

40 posted on 09/05/2013 8:22:24 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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