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Obama's 'I didn't set no stinkin' red line' assertion leads to near universal incredulity
American Thinker ^ | 09/05/2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 09/05/2013 6:51:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Yesterday, editor in chief Lifson reported on the astonishing claim by President Obama that he didn't set a redline for chemical wepons in Syria and that his credibility was not on the line.

Lifson pointed to a meeting of Obama's political team where the message on Syria was being massaged. If this is the best they could come up with - simply denying reality - then the president is in a world of hurt.

The reality, as Jean Kaufman (Neo-Neocon) points out this morning at PJ Media is undeniable:

"I didn't set a red line. The world set a red line."

But in his statement back in August of 2012, Obama unequivocally and undeniably did set a red line. Watch the video, and note especially around 2:07-2:08 when he gestures to himself and says, with emphasis, "us," and his back-and-forth use of the terms "we," "us," and "I" to mean the same thing: himself, or his administration with himself in charge. At no point does he cite the international community, except earlier in his statement when he speaks briefly and generally about the international community's role in a possible eventual transition from the Assad regime to a new government in Syria.

Kaufman takes apart Obama's answer from his press conference in Sweden. Here it is in its entirety:

Let me unpack the question. First of all, I didn't set a red line. The world set a red line. The world set a red line when governments representing 98 percent of the world's population said the use of chemical weapons are abhorrent and passed a treaty forbidding their use even when countries are engaged in war. Congress set a red line when it ratified that treaty.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: obama; redline; syria
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In other words -- Blame others, not me.
1 posted on 09/05/2013 6:51:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The only thing he’s ever shown any skill at - scapegoating.


2 posted on 09/05/2013 6:53:17 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SeekAndFind
The world set a red line when governments representing 98 percent of the world's population said the use of chemical weapons are abhorrent and passed a treaty forbidding their use even when countries are engaged in war. Congress set a red line when it ratified that treaty.

For the record, Syria is not a signatory to that treaty.

3 posted on 09/05/2013 6:54:51 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree in a sense that although he didn’t explicitly cite international treaties that is the obvious legal basis for any military action.


4 posted on 09/05/2013 6:55:28 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama performs “Jedi mind trick” on international community.


5 posted on 09/05/2013 6:56:02 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone who calls me a liar is RACIST!


6 posted on 09/05/2013 6:58:26 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind
From what I just saw and read on DRUDGE - ZERO wants to back the rebels? They are pond scum.
This needs to shouted from the mountain tops.
7 posted on 09/05/2013 6:58:27 AM PDT by DeaconRed (The Monkey is playing with a live hand grenade. He has NEVER seen one explode. . . .)
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To: SeekAndFind
With Harry it was “the buck stops here”, With Bill it was “the buck never got here” and with Obama it is “that is someone else buck”. LOL.
8 posted on 09/05/2013 7:00:04 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you have to tell people that your credibility is not on the line, then your credibility is on the line


9 posted on 09/05/2013 7:00:56 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: SeekAndFind

WE ALL must call our reps today!!

The one thing they do understand is no matter how much money they get the still need VOTERS
and next year is an election year

EVEN solidly Dems pay attention to voters

so please call
PLEASE

The POS 0dumbo must be stopped on this


10 posted on 09/05/2013 7:01:17 AM PDT by RWGinger
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I’ve got to check MSNBC and see how they’re attempting to spin all this....


11 posted on 09/05/2013 7:01:33 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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If you have to tell people that your credibility is not on the line, then your credibility is on the line

I agree. He also sounded like a spoiled whining child.
12 posted on 09/05/2013 7:03:58 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: SeekAndFind
Lifson pointed to a meeting of Obama's political team where the message on Syria was being massaged. If this is the best they could come up with - simply denying reality - then the president is in a world of hurt.
I disagree.

His domestic supporters will believe anything he says. And that's the only constituency he's marginally interested in.

13 posted on 09/05/2013 7:04:05 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: SeekAndFind

Greta was interviewing Rumsfeld last night and when she referred to that statement, Rummy was gobsmacked. He said he had been in Montana and and not heard that Obama said that. He was somewhat at a loss for words.


14 posted on 09/05/2013 7:04:40 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: RWGinger

Big Money rules.

The Big Money wants another war.

One hundred percent of voters opposing a new war would be irrelevant.

It will be irrelevant.


15 posted on 09/05/2013 7:05:53 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Bratch

“I didn’t set that red line, others did it for me.”


16 posted on 09/05/2013 7:06:05 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Mr. K
If you have to tell people that your credibility is not on the line, then your credibility is on the line

Whether it is or not, the deluded leftist doesn't understand its not up to him to decide.

17 posted on 09/05/2013 7:09:09 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama : I didn’t do that. Sonebody else made that sound.


18 posted on 09/05/2013 7:09:29 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: mmichaels1970
Obama performs “Jedi mind trick” on international community.

This is not the red line you were looking for.

19 posted on 09/05/2013 7:13:43 AM PDT by ken in texas (Obama schedule- Nice weather: golf, else play spades with Reggie)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is normal behavior for sociopathic narcissists like Obama. Where there is blame, it can only be assigned to everyone else except themselves. Where there is credit, that belongs solely to them. Hence, he is the only one whose credibility is NOT on the line in regards to this whole Syria fiasco even though he has been the only one talking about “red lines”, while he all but pulled the trigger himself when it came to taking down Osama.

It would be fascinating to watch how minds like Obama’s work if it weren’t so appallingly frightening.


20 posted on 09/05/2013 7:16:44 AM PDT by MWS
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