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Was Mitt Romney Right About Everything? From Russia to Detroit, his fans say they’ve been vindicated
BuzzFeed ^ | 09/05/2013 | McKay Coppins

Posted on 09/05/2013 9:40:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Ten months after Mitt Romney shuffled off the national stage in defeat — consigned, many predicted, to a fate of instant irrelevance and permanent obscurity — Republicans are suddenly celebrating the presidential also-ran as a political prophet.

From his widely mocked warnings about a hostile Russia to his adamant opposition to the increasingly unpopular implementation of Obamacare, the ex-candidate’s canon of campaign rhetoric now offers cause for vindication — and remorse — to Romney’s friends, supporters, and former advisers.

“I think about the campaign every single day, and what a shame it is who we have in the White House,” said Spencer Zwick, who worked as Romney’s finance director and is a close friend to his family. “I look at things happening and I say, you know what? Mitt was actually right when he talked about Russia, and he was actually right when he talked about how hard it was going to be to implement Obamacare, and he was actually right when he talked about the economy. I think there are a lot of everyday Americans who are now feeling the effects of what [Romney] said was going to happen, unfortunately.”

Of course, there is a long tradition in American politics of dwelling on counterfactuals and and re-litigating past campaigns after your candidate loses. Democrats have argued through the years that America would have avoided two costly Middle East wars, solved climate change, and steered clear of the housing crisis if only the Supreme Court hadn’t robbed Al Gore of his rightful victory in 2000. But a series of White House controversies and international crises this year — including a Syrian civil war that is threatening to pull the American military into the mix — has caused Romney’s fans to erupt into a chorus of told-you-so’s at record pace.

In the most actively cited example of the Republican nominee’s foresight, Romneyites point to the candidate’s hardline rhetoric last year against Russian President Vladimir Putin and his administration. During the campaign, Romney frequently criticized Obama for foolishly attempting to make common cause with the Kremlin, and repeatedly referred to Russia as “our number one geopolitical foe.”

Many observers found this fixation strange, and Democrats tried to turn it into a punchline. A New York Times editorial in March of last year said Romney’s assertions regarding Russia represented either “a shocking lack of knowledge about international affairs or just craven politics.” And in an October debate, Obama sarcastically mocked his opponent’s Russia rhetoric. “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years,” the president quipped at the time.

That line still chafes Robert O’Brien, a Los Angeles lawyer and friend of Romney’s who served as a foreign policy adviser.

“Everyone thought, Oh my goodness that is so clever and Mitt’s caught in the Cold War and doesn’t know what he’s talking about,” O’Brien said. “Well guess what. With all of these foreign policy initiatives — Syria, Iran, [Edward] Snowden — who’s out there causing problems for America? It’s Putin and the Russians.”

Indeed, earlier this summer, Moscow defiantly refused to extradite National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden to the United States, prompting Obama to cancel a meeting he had scheduled with Putin during the Group of 20 summit. Russia has blocked United Nations action against Syria. And on Wednesday, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel told lawmakers that Russia was one of the countries supplying Syria with chemical weapons.

To Romney’s fans, these episodes illustrate just how unfairly their candidate was punished during the election for speaking truths the rest of the country would eventually come around to.

“The governor tried to enunciate how to deal with these very hard, tough issues, and we were met with slogans,” O’Brian lamented. “And now the real world is exposing the slogans as being totally trite.”

Admirers point to other examples of Romney’s unrewarded wisdom, as well.

During a foreign policy debate in October, the candidate briefly expressed concern over Islamic extremists taking control of northern Mali — an obscure reference that was mocked on Twitter at the time, including by liberal comedian Bill Maher. Three months later, France sent troops into the country at the behest of the Malian president, bringing the conflict to front pages around the world.

On the domestic front, Obamacare — which Romney spent more time railing against on the stump than perhaps any other progressive policy — is less popular than ever, while the federal government struggles to get the massive, complicated law implemented. (One poll in July found for the first time that a plurality of Americans now support the law’s repeal.)

And while the unemployment rate has, in the first year of Obama’s second term, gradually fallen to post-crisis lows, the still-ailing U.S. economy, which served as the centerpiece for Romney’s unsuccessful case against Obama’s reelection, was given a potent symbol earlier this summer when Detroit became the largest American city ever to declare bankruptcy.

The Motor City became a symbolic battleground during the election, with Romney proudly touting his father’s ties to the auto industry, and the Obama campaign relentlessly attacking the Republican for a Times op-ed he had written years earlier headlined “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”

“The president took the title of that op-ed, which of course was written by editors of the New York Times, and used it to say Gov. Romney was being insensitive about his own home city,” complained former campaign spokesman Ryan Williams. Romney’s article argued that beleaguered automakers should consider going through a managed bankruptcy instead of taking a bailout but, Williams said, “the president’s campaign intentionally tried to blur the lines. It worked. And several months later, the city is going bankrupt because of liberal democratic officeholders.”

Referring to the bankruptcy, Putin’s posturing, and the Mali conflict, Williams added, “Obviously, it would have been nice if any of these incidents would have occurred during the campaign to vindicate Romney. You would never want to see the bankruptcy of a major U.S. city, or the president embarrass himself on the world stage like he has, but Gov. Romney did discuss these potential outcomes.”

Romneyites are processing these feelings of vindication in different ways. The campaign’s chief strategist, Stuart Stevens, said he has been disappointed to see their central message — that Obama would be unable to restore America’s strength — turned out to be so accurate: “If there is a part of the world in which America is stronger, it’s hard to find. What’s the president doing? Attacking a talk radio host. He has criticized Rush Limbaugh with more conviction than the leaders of Iran… We can only hope it improves. ”

And Jennifer Rubin, the conservative Washington Post blogger who became Romney’s most outspoken advocate in the press, accused members of the news media of failing to take the Republican’s arguments seriously, while allowing the incumbent skate through the race untouched.

“As for the media, they are the least self-reflective people I know,” Rubin said. “The left-leaning media has carried the president’s water faithfully, eschewing the least bit of critical analysis. Now they don’t like the result?”

For Zwick, perhaps the closest thing to a true Romney loyalist on the campaign last year, the belief that his candidate turned out to be right offers little comfort. “It’s frustrating because there’s no way to correct it,” Zwick said. “We don’t do what they do in the U.K. and lead the opposition party when you lose. When you lose there is no way to sort of be vindicated. There’s no way to say, ‘OK, well, I didn’t win the presidency but I’m going to continue to fight.’ There’s no fighting. There’s no platform to do that. Fifty million Americans voted for the guy and yet it’s all for nothing.”

“I wish he’d run again,” Zwick added. “He’s not going to. But if he did, I’d be right there.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 09/05/2013 9:40:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

THE ENTIRE GOP opposition and EXPECIALLY the TEA party was right...

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh~!!!!!!!!!!!!

(not you S&F)


2 posted on 09/05/2013 9:41:50 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: SeekAndFind
his fans say they’ve been vindicated

He had fans?

3 posted on 09/05/2013 9:42:29 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: SeekAndFind
RomneyCare

I rest my case.

4 posted on 09/05/2013 9:43:16 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Are Marines required to salute Al Qaeda yet?)
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To: Mr. K

I don’t take away from the fact he spoke lots of truth.

Problem was he was not the candidate we needed at that time.


5 posted on 09/05/2013 9:44:27 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SeekAndFind
That headline and $8 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

As Hillary famously said, "What difference does it make!!!!!"

6 posted on 09/05/2013 9:45:25 AM PDT by TruthFactor (Tag-free, for now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama ONLY became pRes_ _ent because of Romney’s vicious
2008 sabotage.

Then, too, RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE and gay marriage both
were created from Romney and his pen.


7 posted on 09/05/2013 9:45:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: SeekAndFind

Not sure how many ‘fans’ Romney had, but he was unquestionably the better option last year. Of course he was right on Russia, health care and most things. He even did a decent job telling us. It looks near impossible to get through the noise of the media and left these days, as they have their guy’s back 24/7, and will destroy anything in the way. Yes, their campaign could have been much better, but when the left can get their turnout in that environment, it’s tough to win.


8 posted on 09/05/2013 9:45:33 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: A CA Guy
Problem was he was not the candidate we needed at that time.

Sorry, a sodomy worshiper is not the candidate we EVER need.

9 posted on 09/05/2013 9:46:42 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You've gotta be kidding.....

10 posted on 09/05/2013 9:47:57 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, he is on my shit list.

He supported putting gays in the boy scouts.


11 posted on 09/05/2013 9:48:12 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Diogenesis
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12 posted on 09/05/2013 9:49:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney was a lifelong abortionist who claimed abortion should be safe and legal in America. Claimed he’d be better for gay right than Ted Kennedy and proved it. Massachusetts got gay marriage on his watch. Loved big government mandates, forced RomneyCare (predecessor to ObamaCare) on his state. Appointed liberals, refused to fight for conservatives. He was a liberal. Then he decided to run for the presidency and he shifted positions on EVERY issue. No credibility whatsoever. A big loser. NO THANKS!! RINO GO HOME!!


13 posted on 09/05/2013 9:49:09 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: A CA Guy

Not only that, Romeny was the candidate that 70% of the GOP themselves didn’t want...

As the loser who lost to the loser who lost to Obama the first time, why did they force him on us?

Its not like it helped them at all- unless the GOP is totally infiltrated by democraps.


14 posted on 09/05/2013 9:49:11 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K

AND With the media changing his first name to “Frontrunner” it didn’t help at all...


15 posted on 09/05/2013 9:51:12 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Whatever Romney might have been right about, Russia isn’t part of it.

Russia by all rights should be a natural ally.


16 posted on 09/05/2013 9:51:18 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: SeekAndFind

Remorse? I don’t detect any remorse among those who opposed Romney — especially among Republicans and conservatives who stayed home. You read the contempt here on FR every day.

Personally, I would LOVE to have Mitt and Ann in the WH right now.


17 posted on 09/05/2013 9:51:23 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Mr. K

He ran the most politically tone deaf campaign ever.


18 posted on 09/05/2013 9:51:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Note to Romney fans: don’t admit you are a fan, it makes you look bad.


19 posted on 09/05/2013 9:51:48 AM PDT by MrShoop
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To: SeekAndFind

IMO, Bush should also be vindicated at some point. The WMD’s is Syria’s stockpile probably contain some of Saddam’s WMD’s.


20 posted on 09/05/2013 9:52:17 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Jim Robinson
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21 posted on 09/05/2013 9:52:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"And Jennifer Rubin, the conservative Washington Post blogger ..."

Yeah, sure.

22 posted on 09/05/2013 9:53:05 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: SeekAndFind

So some of you decided that King Obama was better. Good thinking, or rather immature foolish childlike thinking. Got what you asked for. Are you enjoying your choice now? Most never understood voting for the lessor of the two evils since the Republican voters placed Romney on the ballot not you ass hats. Get it? So STFU. You were wrong.


23 posted on 09/05/2013 9:53:20 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me

Hey I voted for bastard, but that still doesn’t change the fact that he sucked as a candidate.


24 posted on 09/05/2013 9:54:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: fwdude

I don’t know about that allegation. In general they are good people.
I would have liked someone with fire in the belly, but I will not call Romney a bad guy or a homosexual. That IMO is a bit childish and not true.


25 posted on 09/05/2013 9:55:04 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MrShoop

There’s no way that my dislike of Romney could override my absolute loathing of the Obamanation. Some here seem to have managed that.


26 posted on 09/05/2013 9:58:01 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Logical me

I voted for the bastard but my assessment is not wrong. He is what he is. A GOP-e loser RINO!!


27 posted on 09/05/2013 10:00:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney would have been a much better president than Obama. I think he would have really tried to take on the deficit using moderately conservative solutions. I’m not sure what he would have done in foreign policy. Pretty much every candidate says things and does the opposite — Example # 1 is Obama himself. Having said that, Romney certainly wasn’t some dream candidate. I haven’t seen one of those since, oh, about 1980.


28 posted on 09/05/2013 10:00:55 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: A CA Guy

He swore he’d be better for gay rights than Ted Kennedy. And proved it.


29 posted on 09/05/2013 10:01:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Yeah, but he lost. His campaign sucked just like McCain’s. Just like Dole’s. Don’t run GOP-e RINOS!!


30 posted on 09/05/2013 10:03:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This piece is rich with irony. Not the least of which is the fact that in order to find a “fan” they had to find someone who was on his payroll.


31 posted on 09/05/2013 10:04:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

You are clueless about the Romney Agenda.

Gay Marriage by FORCE.

RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE by FORCE.

Romney even wanted Americans to pay for the healthcare
of Hezbollah.

If not for Romney, Obama and Soros would not be
running America for al Qaeda.


32 posted on 09/05/2013 10:05:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: varmintman

Natural ally? Russian folk’s endemic animosity towards anything American is known world-wide. Have you just arrived?


33 posted on 09/05/2013 10:06:04 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: humblegunner

Romney may have been vindicated by the course of events, but he could not convince enough people, or buy enough counter-votes in those districts where the practice of vote fraud is wide-spread, to carry the day.

And Romney did not fully convince people that he thought he was a better man for the job than the Current Occupant of the White Hut. He pictured himself as “just as good”, and that was not enough to get a LOT of people off their hands.


34 posted on 09/05/2013 10:06:18 AM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nope, he was wrong about almost everything, from his lukewarm campaign, his refusal to paint Zero as the Social he was/is, his refusal to point out the failures of Zero in stark terms, to his support of abortion and the Gay Agenda.

Wrong Candidate for the GOP at any time!


35 posted on 09/05/2013 10:06:56 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Jim Robinson

That says something about the higher ups in the Republican party too:(


36 posted on 09/05/2013 10:09:24 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney was wrong about a lot of things, like his op-ed encouraging a national version of RomneyCare


37 posted on 09/05/2013 10:10:05 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Cold Heart

Yup. The GOP leadership sucks! Stay away from them. I’m supporting nothing but grassroots conservatives. Run, Ted, Run!!


38 posted on 09/05/2013 10:11:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: ilgipper
Not sure how many ‘fans’ Romney had, but he was unquestionably the better option last year. Of course he was right on Russia, health care and most things. He even did a decent job telling us. It looks near impossible to get through the noise of the media and left these days, as they have their guy’s back 24/7, and will destroy anything in the way. Yes, their campaign could have been much better, but when the left can get their turnout in that environment, it’s tough to win.

You, are simply, NUTS!

Romney did a horrible job communicating positions, and in fact, many of those positions were just plain wrong, or completely watered down.

We don't need a candidate who supports Abortion/Gay Agenda and who doesn't believe in limited Government.

We also don't need a candidate who refuses to engage the enemy, and that enemy was Zero.

Like Reagan said:

"Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people"
and
“We had rabbits when we needed tigers.”

39 posted on 09/05/2013 10:12:53 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SeekAndFind
This lady was right too!


40 posted on 09/05/2013 10:13:14 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: SeekAndFind
“I wish he’d run again,” Zwick added. “He’s not going to. But if he did, I’d be right there.”

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I don't know what I'd do if he were to run again. Throwing myself in front of a bus comes to mind.

41 posted on 09/05/2013 10:13:27 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Demographics are destiny. Romney would have won if the population looked like it did in Reagan’s time. But that’s not today’s reality. And while there may have still barely been enough white people in the United States in 2012 to elect a GOP president, Romney wasn’t an energizing enough candidate to pull off the required perfect storm of suburban and exurban turnout - that needed to happen in the face of a tidal wave of media negative coverage.


42 posted on 09/05/2013 10:16:21 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
I think he would have really tried to take on the deficit using moderately conservative solutions.

The problem with that opinion, is that Romney's record as Governor doesn't support that opinion and that is really all we had of any substance to judge him by.

Add to that his penchant of always taking a different position on each policy issue dependent on who he was talking to or which direction the political winds were currently blowing and even the "moderate conservative" policy positions he was positing during the 2012 campaign season couldn't be honestly believed.

He was a completely horrible candidate where the GOP was concerned.

Wrong history, wrong policy position, could not be trusted.
43 posted on 09/05/2013 10:17:05 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SeekAndFind
Palin is being vindicated every minute of the day. Where are the accolades from the MSM or GOP?
44 posted on 09/05/2013 10:17:52 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: humblegunner
He had fans?

Sure he did. Karl Rove loved him. So did Paul Ryan when his turn came.

That makes it plural.

45 posted on 09/05/2013 10:18:33 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: SeekAndFind; greyfoxx39; All
...his adamant opposition to the increasingly unpopular implementation of Obamacare ...

Oh, puh-leeeeeeeeze. Romney agrees in principle with the entire twisted, government-nanny anti-free-market philosophy that is the foundation of Obamacare!!!!

It is just one example of the vast hypocrisy and insidious deceit in this article and in Romney's entire career. He says one thing, and DOES another. Idiots like the author of this article are blind to that truth.

Romney is a vampire -- he needs a stake driven through his political heart, and THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN is to desert the Republican party. I have been registered in the Republican party since 1976, and I faithfully voted for its candidates from 1976 until 2012, when the party had the insane gall to ask me to vote against ALL of my own and America's moral and fiscal interests by "supporting" the placement of government-advancing tyrannical amoral (pro homosexual agenda, pro tax-funded abortion, pro environmental tyranny, pro nationalized health care) Romney in the White House. Voting for Romney would have been every single bit as nuts as voting for Obama. EVERY SINGLE BIT AS NUTS.

The Republican party, however, is completely oblivious to the fact that Romney is the antithesis of EVERYTHING I have been voting Republican for more than 35 years to oppose. As long as guys like Romney are tolerated, let alone promoted in in the Republican party, then the Republican party is the wrong party for me and the wrong party for America.

46 posted on 09/05/2013 10:20:25 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Mr. K
THE ENTIRE GOP opposition and EXPECIALLY the TEA party was right...

That is small consolation for losing to Obama because of a poorly run campaign.

Too bad the republicans spent most of the last presidential campaign fighting over Sandra Fluke and free condoms instead of driving home the truth about Obama:

His nonstop lies, wasting $900 billion in stimulus money by handing it over to his pals, bowing to his muslim rulers, stealing the equity from GM dealers and stockholders to give to his union buds, his multiple unconstitutional acts, Obamacare, Obamacare, Obamacare.....

The list is practically endles.

But republicans let democrats dictate the campaign agenda and they treated Obama the criminal with kid gloves.


47 posted on 09/05/2013 10:21:30 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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To: ilgipper
[Romney] was unquestionably the better option last year...

Absolutely false.

48 posted on 09/05/2013 10:23:07 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: A CA Guy
...I will not call Romney a bad guy or a homosexual. That IMO is a bit childish and not true.

Then you are woefully ignorant of the man Romney. You don't have to be one to worship sodomy, and Romney was a sodomy worshiper. He pledged to sodomize the Boy Scouts years ago. He performed a same-sex "wedding" in Massachusetts after he improperly implemented what the legislature would not. He is all for sodomizing our military, and we would have gotten the same result with Romney as with Obama.

And his pathetic response to a question as to his thoughts on the Chick-fil-A Day demonstration? "That's not part of this campaign."

Sorry, Romney was as leftist as Obama on this issue. He is the Father of Same-sex "Marriage" in this country.

49 posted on 09/05/2013 10:24:48 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone please tell me that this article is a joke. Romney says whatever it is politically expedient for him to say depending on who is audience is. As a result, he’s bound to be accidentally right now and again.


50 posted on 09/05/2013 10:27:28 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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