Skip to comments.Tulsa school sends girl home over hair [dreads]
Posted on 09/05/2013 11:09:30 AM PDT by kevcol
administrator, Millard Jones told FOX23 that Terrance Parker was fully aware what was expected. However, for his young daughter, it just hurts.
"They didn't like my dreads," said Tiana.
FoX23 reviewed the school's dress code. It states, "hairstyles such as dreadlocks, afros, mohawks, and other faddish styles are unacceptable."
(Excerpt) Read more at fox23.com ...
So they applied to be able to go to a CHARTER school, and get accepted, and then tell the school they won’t follow its rules?
Didn’t they know the rules when they applied to go there?
She’s really going to be a joy in about ten years or so.
They are Obama’s relatives and rules and laws don’t apply to them.
Parents and students get a copy of the dress code and have to sign them. If they don’t like the dress code, then go to the principle and the school board. Going to media and having the kid cry on tv is just pathetic.
So I am sure that there will be an exception for all affirmative action students.
It's a common problem. Parents sign their kids up for a better education, then behave just as they did when their kids were in public schools and didn't learn.
Quick, someone call the waaambulance!
I don’t see the problem with an afro, since it’s a “natural” hairstyle. Dreadlocks aren’t, and usually aren’t frequently washed, so that can be a sanitary problem.
If it's a charter school then forbid them entrance to the school and have them arrested if they trespass.
Dreadlocks are indeed a natural hair style.
Combed hair is unnatural, but acceptable.
Cleanliness is a different issue, but dreds can be clean, or not. Clean hair is not natural, but acceptable.
I understand that it might make a difference that the school in question is a charter school but I'm not sure that it does. Nor am I sure, on the other hand, that I would object if the children are required to wear uniforms. So, like a fiddler on the roof, I am undecided for the one hand or the other hand.
My real problem is that a charter school is still a school conducted by the state with all the repressive powers of the state at its disposal and it is not entirely clear that a democratic process brought the school to the conclusion that dreadlocks should be forbidden. My real solution to this is not a charter school which is only a halfway compromise to schools funded by vouchers. If the child had the choice of going to a school paid for by vouchers which permitted dreadlocks the problem would be solved. So would most problems such as religious observances, dress codes, speech codes, flag salutes etc.
The voucher school system is truly a free-market system in which the parents votes with their vouchers and a Democratic system is put in place and effectively policed by the consumers just as is the market for most services. The problem is the same people who think they know better about dreadlocks are terrified of the idea of the parents actually controlling their children's education.
This is extreme. A school is trying to help it’s students succeed in life.
You have to style dreadlocks, they don’t occur naturally. But as I said, I think the school can make an argument against it on the hygiene issue.
My daughter grows dreds naturally, and it is a constant struggle to avoid them.
Styling them is required for them to look a particular way, which would make them like any other hair style.
Yes - it is in fact a Charter School.
It doesn’t matter if you see a problem or not. The school has a dress code ( as did mine back in the long ago time). Obey it or go to another slacker school. The parents have choices. They are trying the old scheme of ‘it is better to ask forgiveness than permission’. They got the rules. They know the rules. If they don’t want to obey them they should put their daughter in another school. end of story
none of it matters. The dress code is set. Doesn’t matter if anyone ‘likes’ it. Dress codes used to be the norm.
The parents signed a contract with the school. The contract included dress code, including hairstyles right?
As I see it, they signed a contract that they either didnt read or didnt expect to be enforced. It got enforced and they complained to the media in search of 15 minutes of fame.
Screw them. Follow the rules.
One wonders what they would say to a shaved head.
Certainly not natural.
Ok, if there is a dress code that requires a certain reflectance from the face?
Dress codes can be fair, or unfair. Unfair dress codes should not be able to be enforced.
There can be some disagreement as to what is fair. Certainly the burden of proof would be on the person who accepted the dress code when they wanted to get in, but wants it changed once they attend.
Dress codes were the norm, but were often overturned because they were unfair.
I have a 107 lb daughter in the same situation.
Didnt they know the rules when they applied to go there?"
Just like the idiots who apply at fast food places and Walmart then turn around and scream their a$$es off that they do not get paid enough!!!
If they are applied evenly it is not unfair
The voucher school system is truly a free-market system in which the parents votes with their vouchers and a Democratic system is put in place and effectively policed by the consumers just as is the market for most services. The problem is the same people who think they know better about dreadlocks are terrified of the idea of the parents actually controlling their children’s education.
Very curly hair is extremely hard to manage. Dreadlocks are a style which allows one some measure of control over their hair. It also saves a lot of time in the morning.
Not saying I agree with the family’s methods, but the policy seems unreasonable to me.
The kids are likely going to be subject to questions of ‘taste’ in one way or another all of their lives. They may as well get used to it. It’s called growing up.
I am also a bit conflicted about this story. I personally don’t have an issue with dreadlocks, BUT they are associated with the Rasta lifestyle which is in many ways antithetical to the goals of a modern school system. I would be more concerned about the philosophy of the parents than about the hair itself. Are the parents in fact committed to the goals of the school?
Depends on what they are.
If they require blue jeans, and you are allergic to the die used in blue jeans, they might be unfair.
If they are written for and by people with straight hair, and forbid curly hair, that might be unfair.
Certainly faddish is open to wide interpretation.
Short dreds I don’t see would be a problem, but I don’t see most short hair styles as a problem. Long dreds could be a problem, but many long hair styles would be a problem.
Shaved heads might be considered faddish. A cancer survivor who lost his hair might look exactly the same, but for them we would feel (I hope) nothing but sympathy.
Dress codes are the classic example of form over substance.
No afros? That’s the most idiotic thing I’ve heard in some time.
Not the family’s fault. The rules were written in cursive.
IMO, a student being told to get a haircut or dress a specific way is not one of those moments.
I don't agree that a state is without power to regulate the schools operating on a voucher system as to teacher qualifications and course content. Nor do I believe that the state would be prohibited from delisting the schools in the event the students fail certain test levels.
As a conservative with a pesky libertarian streak, my libertarian side wants the state to have no control over what a parent decides his child should be taught or the method. But by conservative practical side tells me that the culture, especially the African-American ghetto, has deteriorated to such a degree that those choices simply have to to be controlled for the good of the child, for the good of the culture, and for the good of the body politic.
It is controlled, by the radical left that is reinforcing all the bad behaviors.
There is nothing people like Mayor Bloomberg would like better than to literally control us in matters of taste-tastebuds that is. If we permit the state to intrude and tell us about our hairstyles as children what is to prevent them from dictating hairstyles to us as adults? Moreover, we would be less likely to resist these intrusions of the state because we will have "got used to it" as children.
God help us.
“...The problem is the same people who think they know better about dreadlocks are terrified of the idea of the parents actually controlling their children...”
I’m so glad to be out of the “education” racket. This is the mindset you get.
PC to the extreme...live with it or die.
Well said. There are many on FR who profess to be skeptical or against government intrusion into their lives but get severely weak in the knees when the government (i.e. public schools) mandates silly dress codes.
The educational system is about conformity -- sit down, be quiet, raise your hand, don't think outside the box, etc.
Wittingly or unwittingly, unreasonable school dress codes grease the skids for future conformity.
But, then, it appears there are many here who are just fine with government telling their kids how to dress.
Here’s a photo fron the school’s website under their ‘Vision’ section.
Are these not dreadlocks?
No, those are braids.
Dreadlocks are indeed a natural hair style. In the Hood, but not in the civilized part of our society.
Combed hair is unnatural, but acceptable. Look around, if you live in a civilized society, it is the natural way hair is kept.
Cleanliness is a different issue, but dreds can be clean, or not. Clean hair is not natural, but acceptable. Name a civilization where dirty hairy is the natural way hair is kept.
As one who has studied the Frankfurt School and concluded that it is true, and not a conspiracy theory as the left insists, that the Frankfurt School set out to undermine those elements of society which bind together and coherently resist the seductions of communism. Those institutions which the left incessantly undermines includes the family, especially the authority of the father, the church, the Armed Forces, the rule of law and the courts, and, of course, education.
They have succeeded brilliantly in education but they have also succeeded in undermining the rest of the culture. When you have ghetto bastardy rates at 75% you have a disintegrating culture. So we send those illegitimate kids to our schools and ask the schools to undo what the culture has done to them. What does the school system do? It tries to instill conformity because that is a bureaucratic reaction. What do bureaucrats do? They suspend kids from the first grade for drawing pictures of firearms and have them arrested for kissing a girl in kindergarten.
It is not entirely the bureaucrats' fault, they must conduct themselves according to the lowest common denominator. So if we have an element of society disintegrating in our midst we cannot distinguish between a black kid in the ghetto from a fatherless home and a nice Jewish nerd in the suburbs bound for the Ivy League. We must treat them all the same and that means we must restrict the freedom of the tractable equally with the incorrigible.
What do we conservatives call for? Some sort of order and decency in the culture so that we can have a free society which can only come from an orderly and decent society. So we are inclined to ask for schools to compensate for the values that don't come from the church, the family, or the neighborhood. Like the police called to a marital dispute, the institution is not equipped to be a parent and a priest. That is even more true than it was in my father's generation when kids read from the McGuffey's reader and every lesson was a parable. Today, even where the school might do some good advancing ethics and morals, it has been diverted to the service of The Frankfurt School.
Yes! Thank you! This is why schools fail. Failing kids are removed from their failing home school, placed in "successful" schools with vouchers and school-of-choice schemes and then bring their enormous attitudes, gang affiliations, and poor work habits and pretty soon, your successful school is now a failing school.
It's NOT the schools that are failing, it's the KIDS who are failing, of their own volition.
Rules don’t apply to the special people.
Civilization has little to do with hair style.
I have lived in the ‘hood’. There are problems, but hair styles is not on my list of the top 100. You may have different priorities.