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First on CNN: Russians turned down, again (Snubbed by Harry Reid)
CNN.com ^ | September 5, 2013 | Lisa Desjardins

Posted on 09/05/2013 4:59:49 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has turned down a Russian request to meet with him to discuss Syria, his office tells CNN, making it unclear if any U.S. lawmakers will sit down with a planned delegation from Moscow.

This comes less than a day after House Speaker John Boehner similarly turned down a request from the Russian government to meet.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Nevada; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: harryreid; johnboehner; nevada; ohio; putin; reid; senate; syria
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Have these half-wit losers forgotten that the Russians still have a large number of very large and very potent nuclear missiles pointing at us?
1 posted on 09/05/2013 4:59:49 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Hey, Harry, maybe you should go speak with the Russians BEFORE they turn Nevada into a parking lot. Just sayin’.


2 posted on 09/05/2013 5:01:09 PM PDT by madison10 (I miss America.)
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To: Timber Rattler

For GOD’S sake...how CHILDISH can you get!!


3 posted on 09/05/2013 5:03:30 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Harry is scared.


4 posted on 09/05/2013 5:03:32 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Timber Rattler

These people are dangerously incompetent.


5 posted on 09/05/2013 5:05:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MacMattico

You got it. Harry told his secretary he’s not to be bothered, locked himself in his office & crawled under the desk.


6 posted on 09/05/2013 5:09:21 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Timber Rattler

How is our diplomatic mission in Syria doing?


7 posted on 09/05/2013 5:09:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Timber Rattler

folks the world over are afraid to crap on Putin.
Where as no one fears obammy


8 posted on 09/05/2013 5:09:54 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Timber Rattler

The Russians are desperate to meet with someone that isn’t a moron like Obama.

I don’t blame them.

I wouldn’t want to meet with the moron or his wookie wife.


9 posted on 09/05/2013 5:09:57 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: trisham

I’m beginning to think the left is getting excited about the thought of Americans dying for the sake of terrorists for dubious reasons. All left leaning Republicans need to be put out to pasture as well. What is wrong with them? Are they stupid or just evil?


10 posted on 09/05/2013 5:11:34 PM PDT by formosa
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To: trisham

I’m beginning to think the left is getting excited about the thought of Americans dying for the sake of terrorists for dubious reasons. All left leaning Republicans need to be put out to pasture as well. What is wrong with them? Are they stupid or just evil?


11 posted on 09/05/2013 5:11:35 PM PDT by formosa
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To: Timber Rattler

Consider:

On the same side: Obama, al Qaeda, Reid and Boehner.


12 posted on 09/05/2013 5:13:19 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Timber Rattler

Harry Reid is a douchebag but having said that - I’m not sure that this is how this sort of thing is supposed to be handled. I think purely based on protocol I would have done the same thing.


13 posted on 09/05/2013 5:14:22 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: formosa
Are they stupid or just evil?

Both, imho.

14 posted on 09/05/2013 5:14:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Timber Rattler

How childish.


15 posted on 09/05/2013 5:15:58 PM PDT by McGruff (Strange times are these in which we live..)
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To: skeeter

“crawled under the desk.”
Grade school training kicking in?


16 posted on 09/05/2013 5:16:10 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Paladin2
How is our diplomatic mission in Syria doing?


17 posted on 09/05/2013 5:16:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
he Russians are desperate to meet with someone that isn’t a moron like Obama.

Who is available that has any power in the U.S. AND brains? I wish Allen West, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Sarah Palin or even Mitt Romney were President--we wouldn't be falling down this poop hole.

18 posted on 09/05/2013 5:17:11 PM PDT by madison10 (I miss America.)
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To: formosa

They are not, the lefties I talk to don’t support this one bit. “no better then Bush”


19 posted on 09/05/2013 5:17:17 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Gota agree with that. congress shouldn’t be doing back door meetings with foreign heads of state.


20 posted on 09/05/2013 5:18:35 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Timber Rattler

Harry is senile and vindictive. Makes you feel good about the situation in which we find ourselves?


21 posted on 09/05/2013 5:20:09 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: MacMattico

“Harry is scared.”

Yes, he is...
The visuals of RUSSIAN legislators coming to speak with Congress, trying to stop a War, wouldn’t be good for Democrats.

That pervue is reserved SOLEY for Democrats, when under-cutting a Republican President, even at the cost of American Soldier’s lives.


22 posted on 09/05/2013 5:20:49 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: CJ Wolf

Or a skill he picked up during his time as a bag man for the mob.


23 posted on 09/05/2013 5:20:54 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Timber Rattler

I for one am glad neither one of these idiots will be meeting foreign leaders of any country with the idea that they represent anything I think is proper or useful.


24 posted on 09/05/2013 5:21:52 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: trisham
"Dirty" Reid / 0'Blowfly or the "Putty" Putin; it seems Putin, has a "better-tuned-ear"
(politically) than 0'Blahblah..an appalling situation for an *real* US President..
but, then we have 0'Blahblah (the Usurper/Manchurian)

25 posted on 09/05/2013 5:22:27 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Timber Rattler
Patton saw the Russian for what they are enemies.

What is it with so many of today's so called Conservatives that they they think Russians are our friends. Ive been there, the average Russian hates American and everything we stand for.

Geez folks get a F*cking grip. Russia is not our friend..

26 posted on 09/05/2013 5:24:35 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: skinkinthegrass

He’s far worse than anything that I could have imagined. He’s going to get us all killed if he has his way.


27 posted on 09/05/2013 5:25:06 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Joe Boucher

“folks the world over are afraid to crap on Putin.
Where as no one fears obammy”

The Russians aren’t blind. And Putin, unlike Obama, isn’t naïve and stupid.

Putin’s over-riding goal has been to restore Russian National Pride, and delivering an Epic Smackdown to Obama would go a long way to doing that.

He’s got Obama by the short-hairs, and he’s inside his head now, thanks to the Messiah’s big, unthinking mouth. How far is Obama willing to go, and how many people is he willing to get killed, to sooth his damaged, narcissistic ego?


28 posted on 09/05/2013 5:26:01 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: skeeter
You got it. Harry told his secretary he’s not to be bothered, locked himself in his office & crawled under the desk.

And Bonehead is still weeping and peed his pants.

29 posted on 09/05/2013 5:26:21 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: skeeter
not serbia this is, obamawankanobi...
30 posted on 09/05/2013 5:27:45 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: montanajoe

“Russia is not our friend..”

No, they aren’t, and Putin is a cold, calculating SOB.

But in this one instance, the RUSSIANS are holding the Moral High Ground, thanks to the incompetence, and the ego, of THE ONE< The Gay Media Messiah.


31 posted on 09/05/2013 5:29:51 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: thouworm; penelopesire; LucyT
Jumping threads ...

OT?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3062931/posts

Meet the Syrian Islamist Organization Controlling Senator McCain’s Agenda
Frontpage Mag ^ | September 4, 2013 | Daniel Greenfield

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http://indianapublicmedia.org/news/lugar-hamilton-support-strike-syria-55170/

(Former Indiana Senator and Senate Foreign Relations Committee head) Lugar And Hamilton Support Strike On Syria

Posted September 5, 2013

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/09/03/dick-lugar-condemns-random-outliers-in-congress-opposing-syria-strike/

Dick Lugar condemns “random outliers” in Congress opposing Syria strike

By Chris Cillizza, Published: September 3

Former Indiana Republican Sen. Dick Lugar had harsh words for those in his party — including Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul — who oppose a military strike in Syria, insisting that history would judge them poorly for casting such a vote.

Earlier research:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2554303/posts

The Russian Agents, Obama, and the Cover-up
Accuracy in Media ^ | 7-16-10 | Cliff Kincaid

Our media do not seem to be interested in the curious matter of why the Russian agents accused of trying to acquire sensitive nuclear information from the U.S. Government were so quickly released. Why were they were sent back to Moscow less than two weeks after they were arrested?

It is certainly the case that a continuing spy scandal threatened to undermine U.S.-Russia business “opportunities” and “cooperation.” It is also true that there is evidence that the Russian agents targeted the Obama Administration and former Clinton Administration officials.

Just before the scandal broke, a $4 billion deal had been announced between Boeing and a Russian firm. During the visit of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to the U.S., Cisco Systems had announced it was going to spend $1 billion in Russia, in part to develop a Moscow version of Silicon Valley. The United States Export-Import Bank had also announced a new deal to underwrite, with U.S. taxpayer dollars, U.S. business exports to Russia.

Plus, Obama had submitted a U.S.-Russian nuclear cooperation agreement, backed by powerful business interests, to the U.S. Congress.

All of this was clearly in jeopardy if the Russian spy scandal led to additional revelations of Russian spying on the American government and businesses. So the scandal had to go away—and quickly.

The exchange was hammered out so quickly and was so advantageous to the Kremlin, however, that it should have become apparent to some journalist somewhere that there was much more to the story. But the issue was just as quickly dropped by the media, liberal and conservative alike.

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One document says four Obama Administration officials were specifically targeted in the intelligence-gathering effort. But their names were omitted from the Justice Department documents about the case. If they actively conspired with the Russians, shouldn’t they be identified and arrested and prosecuted?

However, there is another possible reason for the quick release of the Russian agents. It is that powerful U.S. business interests told the Obama Administration that an unfolding spy scandal—and a public court case—could damage their business dealings with the Russian government.

(Excerpt) Read more at aim.org ...

See also:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/Obama-embarks-on-a-sales-trip-to-India/articleshow/6875707.cms

The business delegation meeting Obama will include Honeywell International Inc’s David Cote, who co-chairs the India-US CEO Forum with Tata Sons chairman Ratan Tata, Boeing Co’s Jim McNerney, General Electric Co’s Jeffrey Immelt and Mcgraw Hill Companies’ Terry McGraw , who is also USIBC chairman.

Louis Chênevert, CEO of aerospace major United Technologies Corporation and Ellen Kullman, chief executive of chemicals giant DuPont may also be joining.
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Here’s the passport story:

Say, Russian FSB???

http://blog.kievukraine.info/2005/08/obama-part-of-group-locked-up-at.html

Obama part of group locked up at Russian airport // U.S. delegation stripped of passports as guards demand to inspect plane
Chicago Sun-Times (IL) - Monday, August 29, 2005
Author: Lynn Sweet, Sun-Times Washington Bureau chi

WASHINGTON — Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.) were not allowed to leave a Russian airport Sunday and were locked in a room briefly.

The incident prevented their departure for about three hours, but Obama told the Sun-Times “it ended up not being a very big deal.”

The senators had their passports seized by local officials at an airport in Perm. Obama said the officials demanded, unsuccessfully, to inspect the DC-9 military aircraft being used by the congressional delegation for the trip.

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Although he was on a first-time diplomatic mission, Obama has traveled extensively, spending part of his youth in Indonesia and visiting Kenya, where his father was born. He noted that as a back- packing college student he had “a lot less leverage than this time.”

Obama , a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, and Lugar, its chairman, left Wednesday for a trip to inspect sites where nuclear and biological weapons are slated to be destroyed in Russia, Ukraine and Azerbaijan. On Sunday, the U.S. group was scheduled to fly from Perm to Kiev, Ukraine. But border guards wanted proof that the group’s aircraft — which Obama said looked like a “mini-Air Force One” — was really an official U.S. government plane, which would be exempt from an inspection.

Robert Gibbs, Obama ‘s spokesman traveling with him, said in an e-mail that “the border guards took our passports and demanded to inspect our aircraft, which we refused. We were moved to a room to wait.”

“At one point they were demanding to inspect virtually everything, including the gifts their representatives at the missile facility had given us.” The border guard said “they were acting on the authority of the FSB,” the Russian intelligence agency.

(snip)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunn%E2%80%93Lugar_Cooperative_Threat_Reduction

The Cooperative Threat Reduction (CTR) Program (occasionally known as Nunn–Lugar based on a 1992 U.S. law sponsored by Senators Sam Nunn and Richard Lugar) is an initiative housed within the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA). According to the CTR website, “the purpose of the CTR Program is to secure and dismantle weapons of mass destruction and their associated infrastructure in former Soviet Union states.”

CTR provides funding and expertise for states in the former Soviet Union (including Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan) to decommission nuclear, biological, and chemical weapon stockpiles, as agreed by the Soviet Union under disarmament treaties such as SALT II. Under the scrutiny of American contractors, nuclear warheads would be removed from their delivery vehicles, then decommissioned or stockpiled at designated sites in Russia.

In recent years, the CTR program has expanded its mission from WMD at the root source to protecting against WMD “on the move” by enhancing land and maritime border security in the Former Soviet Union.

Caption: Sen. Richard Lugar and now-President Barack Obama tour a Russian site where WMD are being destroyed in 2005. (DTRA photo)

http://www.dtra.mil/Missions/nunn-lugar/nunn-lugar-home.aspx

32 posted on 09/05/2013 5:32:02 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Timber Rattler

It is so funny. Reagan never would have kissed up to the Russians. I don’t think we should do that today. Why are we going against what Reagan stood for?


33 posted on 09/05/2013 5:34:41 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: tcrlaf

” How far is Obama willing to go, and how many people is he willing to get killed, to sooth his damaged, narcissistic ego?”

That is one damned scary question there.


34 posted on 09/05/2013 5:35:41 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: montanajoe
Russia is not our friend.

Neither is President Homo, Reid, or Boner. There are no good choices in this crowd.

35 posted on 09/05/2013 5:39:28 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: tcrlaf
Sorry have to disagree.

The only high ground they are holding is the Public Relations war. They could care lees about you or my definition of morality. They are immoral and equating any equivalency to what you or I may perceive as morality is simply foolish.

The Russians/USSR have been playing this game for nearly 100 years and there are always Americans willing to fall for it..sad.

36 posted on 09/05/2013 5:39:34 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: trisham
killin' us?
who...Reid?...0Blahblah?...or Putin?

37 posted on 09/05/2013 5:42:21 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Lurker
” How far is Obama willing to go, and how many people is he willing to get killed, to sooth his damaged, narcissistic ego?”

In order to find out what's in a war, you first need to start one (tip o' the the hat to Nancy!)

38 posted on 09/05/2013 5:43:17 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: montanajoe; neverdem; narses; SunkenCiv; Nachum
Patton saw the Russian for what they are enemies.

Geez folks get a F*cking grip. Russia is not our friend..

Hmmmmn. Guess you haven’t noticed? Neiither is Washingtpon under Obama. Voting “NO!” is in our best interests. Happens to be in Russia’s not-so-worst interest (right now) as well.

39 posted on 09/05/2013 5:46:00 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: napscoordinator
Well, right now, the Russians have the high moral ground in this thing, and our government is the hapless fool.

At any rate, if Reagan were president today, we wouldn't even be in this lamentable situation.

40 posted on 09/05/2013 5:47:33 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: glorgau

Truth is only welcome thru the back door with this administration.


41 posted on 09/05/2013 5:50:48 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (When will those PAYING for Obamacare be exempted?)
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To: montanajoe

Russia may not be our “friend” bit at least they recognize an Islamic terrorist when they see one.


42 posted on 09/05/2013 5:51:48 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Washington is not our friend, which goes without saying.

If anyone thinks Russia is not only not our friend but our enemy they are a deluded fool.

Conservatives need to keep their wits about them. There is no equivalency between the fools in Washington and the true enemies this nation has throughout the world.

As I say get a grip..

43 posted on 09/05/2013 5:53:26 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Timber Rattler

Errr.... this situation is getting weirder and weirder. So they bypass Obama like this? Hmm...


44 posted on 09/05/2013 5:53:26 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: jersey117

No they don’t..they support anyone who is an enemy of the USA.

Russia is playing those who believe their BS as fools..same as always..


45 posted on 09/05/2013 5:57:07 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Paladin2

The ‘Reset’ button is broken. We’re officially ‘Overcharged’!


46 posted on 09/05/2013 6:08:04 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: montanajoe

It’s a mistake to compare Putin to 70’s/80’s Cold War Russians.

Remember, this is the guy who refused his arrest list, and walked away from the KGB, during the KGB-led coup in 1991, and went straight to work for the Pro-Yeltsin crowd, under the St. Petersburg mayor Sobchack, who was on the arrest list, that had helped to write the new Russian constitution.


47 posted on 09/05/2013 6:09:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Timber Rattler

Ugh. Disgusting childishness.

I have an idea. We’ll have Cruz, Paul and Lee from the senate be the grown ups. And send a few House members like Westmooreland and Rooney.


48 posted on 09/05/2013 7:07:34 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: JudgemAll

What if it was an intelligence meeting ABOUT Obama?


49 posted on 09/05/2013 7:33:28 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: tcrlaf
Again I've been there and I've had to deal with Russians/Russian Mafia throughout the world.

Its a mistake to think any of these guys are our friends, they hate America, they hate capitalism, they hate everything we profess to believe in under the Constitution.

Conservatives believing otherwise are either uneducated as to what they truly stand for or are fools. I hope most just don't know what they truly are..

50 posted on 09/05/2013 7:57:18 PM PDT by montanajoe
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