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It is time for the Tea Party to become a political party
The Washington Times ^ | September 4, 2013 | Judson Phillips

Posted on 09/05/2013 8:41:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It is time for the Tea Party to divorce the Republican Party and start its own political party.

Nature abhors a vacuum, and the Tea Party swept into the political vacuum left by the Republican Party in 2009. There was no voice for conservatives. The GOP had surrendered to its big government wing. And because of that, the GOP had been shellacked in 2006 and 2008.

The GOP would not stand up for conservative principles and the Tea Party was born.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept the Republicans into power in the House of Representatives.

What does the Tea Party have to show for it?

For the last two and a half years, the Tea Party has watched House Speaker John Boehner raise his freshly laundered white flag of surrender time and time again.

While the Republicans come back home to tell the voters how conservative they are, the truth is quite different.

The Republican leadership has not held the line on spending. They have capitulated repeatedly on the debt ceiling. They have surrendered on taxes. They have wanted to get along on Amnesty even though it is political suicide. They have given us meaningless, symbolic votes to repeal Obamacare, while making no real effort to do so. With barely disguised contempt for the base, they have ignored the calls to defund Obamacare.

Now they are giving the conservative base the middle finger by rushing to war in Syria.....

(Excerpt) Read more at communities.washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 3rdparty; boehner; congress; democrats; gop; naysayers; obama; obamacare; palin; pipedream; republicans; syria; taxes; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; teapublicans; thirdparty
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1 posted on 09/05/2013 8:41:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Laugh
Laugh
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The biggest Tea Party victory to date: pushing an Amnesty Bill through the Senate.

I’m glad they think we need another party to raise taxes and take freedom. :)


2 posted on 09/05/2013 8:43:42 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think they should do it for a 6 year period. Then in the charter, vote to disband it if it does not reach certain outcomes. Or members can re instate to continue.


3 posted on 09/05/2013 8:44:08 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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4 posted on 09/05/2013 8:44:41 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d like to see it called, The Taxpayer Party.


5 posted on 09/05/2013 8:45:55 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: Tzimisce

What the Hell are you talking about?


6 posted on 09/05/2013 8:45:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The last successful third party was the Republican Party. That was over 150 years ago.

So, no.


7 posted on 09/05/2013 8:47:42 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh yes, we do need the new Tea Party with real leaders.

I’d join in a minute, wait I already joined a couple of years ago. I’m thinking Searchlight. The Tea Party Woodstock!


8 posted on 09/05/2013 8:47:47 PM PDT by Calif4Palin (President Palin sounds so good....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So far you seem to only have a heckler from the RNCC cheerleading section.

The tea party is already a viable political party; it controls the republican party. The RINOS are on deathwatch and are being picked off one by one.

Nothing happens overnight.

It’s coming.


9 posted on 09/05/2013 8:48:29 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

Praise the Lord!


10 posted on 09/05/2013 8:50:03 PM PDT by Calif4Palin (President Palin sounds so good....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“What the Hell are you talking about?”

Good to see I’m not the only one.

To the original story, YES! YES! YES!


11 posted on 09/05/2013 8:50:08 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think its time for a Conservative party.

The Tea Party has attracted many Libertarians and a Libertarian is and never will be a Conservative.

It makes more sense to me to let the GOP and the Libertarians and the Tea Party have the GOP and the Conservatives form their own party.


12 posted on 09/05/2013 8:51:21 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The biggest Tea Party victory to date: pushing an Amnesty bill through the Senate.

It’s been 2 1/2 years. And that’s all they’ve really done.

They ran on making the government smaller (it’s bigger).
They ran on cutting spending (spending is higher).
They ran on killing Obamacare (it’s only been slowed by the President himself).

The Tea Party hasn’t done a single thing other than sound and fury.


13 posted on 09/05/2013 8:52:00 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

Which branch of our government does the Tea Party Control?


14 posted on 09/05/2013 8:55:09 PM PDT by BookaT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Being as the GOP-E Republican party has just accomplished suicide, I would say yes and note that the TEA party is already are fairly effective.


15 posted on 09/05/2013 8:56:00 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Tzimisce
The Tea Party hasn’t done a single thing other than sound and fury.

You are either highly ignorant or just plain mendacious.

The Tea-Party is not in control of either legislative body or the Administration.

The GOP-E is in control of the House and the Democrats are in charge of the Senate and the White House.

The Tea-Party is still a smaller minority, we are gaining seats and we will knock off losers like Alexander, Grahm, and hopefully McCain among others, but it does take time.
16 posted on 09/05/2013 8:56:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this the Huffington Post, or Politico?


17 posted on 09/05/2013 8:56:27 PM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, the country could use a second political party.
The founders warned against factionalism, not pluralism; as it is now, we’ve got the Republicrats and Democrats: one political party with slight differences.
Conservatives have huge differences with both factions.


18 posted on 09/05/2013 8:57:14 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Tzimisce

Not true, you’re talking about those who betray the tea party.


19 posted on 09/05/2013 8:57:30 PM PDT by toddausauras ( Palin 2016)
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To: Tzimisce

The demoncrats control the senate, not the tea party. Though we do have at least one notable traitor in our midst. FUMR!


20 posted on 09/05/2013 8:57:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the Tea Party swept into the political vacuum left by the Republican Party in 2009. There was no voice for conservatives.
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Willard shut us out of the republican convention in 2012..

Our Conservative leaders like Gov Sarah Palin were not allowed to speak and Willard’s own political agenda was put forward..

Willard changed some of the rules making sure that any delegates in 2016 would be handpicked or rejected by he and the GOPe in 2016...,

2016 will be full of the Paul Ryans, Marco Rubios, and the old guard...Willard, McCain, Rove and the other usual liberal suspects...

We have no place in “moderate progressive” Willard’s 2016 convention..

Let’s have our own...

I doubt Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee etc will be recognized by the GOPe...

They will be available to represent a Conservative party...


21 posted on 09/05/2013 8:58:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

22 posted on 09/05/2013 9:00:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the GOP puts up a Jeb Bush or Rubio (or fill in the rino blank), it must be destroyed at the Federal level. Otherwise, it will essentially form a national unity party with the Dims (in effect this has already happened). A unity party will shut out all grassroots initiatives. The tea party, as currently constituted, is not a unified political organization.
I think the best idea is to form some organization that promotes reforms via the state level and along the lines of Mark Levin’s liberty amendments.


23 posted on 09/05/2013 9:04:01 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

See my tagline.


24 posted on 09/05/2013 9:04:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to get rid of all political parties. Candidates should present their ideas and people can vote for or against them based on those ideas. Political parties force people to choose between tweedldumb and tweedledumber. I would like to vote for the candidate who most reflected my belief in following the Constitution and not between the lesser of two evils.


25 posted on 09/05/2013 9:05:09 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Restoration of the Republic)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m all in. I quit my position in the GOP. Disgusting.


26 posted on 09/05/2013 9:05:47 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: grumpygresh

Lincoln and Johnson ran as the National Union Party, not Republicans and won, in 1864. One more thing they don’t teach in school, anymore. Too busy talking about Harriet Tubman, MLK, Malcolm X, Jackie Robinson and Obama, I guess.


27 posted on 09/05/2013 9:12:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Past time to start a Third Party. Shell shocked that we didn’t begin the task the evening Romney was nominated, and prepare for 2016. Time,
money, leadership and organization can’t happen in a vacuum. We’re in one, and the RINOS have screwed the lid down.


28 posted on 09/05/2013 9:18:41 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: vmivol00

And a fine time to do just that...

We have the US Attorney deciding just what laws they will and will not enforce, we have States attempting to disavow themselves from the Union, We have the stupid Republicans still trying to act macho by standing up for war. Just who are you going to vote for now? Law and order is going the way of the Whigs...

All of this is happening when our beloved Republican Party that is suppose to be the “other” party is doing the same or worse as the Democrats. What to do now? Yes, Drudge has it right! He is just a few years late to the party.

Well, the obvious is no longer vote Republican but who else is there to vote for? You got me there since voting for another party is just going to split the vote and probably make the Democrats the winner - what a problem.

Another alternative? Still looking but not sure that there is any alternative that is possible during my lifetime.


29 posted on 09/05/2013 9:20:24 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about getting a candidate who has a chance of defeating Hillary before we kill each other over what to name it


30 posted on 09/05/2013 9:23:37 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

If you’re talking another Republican that is just a delaying game and will do nothing to advance the conservative cause.


31 posted on 09/05/2013 9:28:11 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: bigbob

Name one.


32 posted on 09/05/2013 9:29:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Tzimisce

Stupid much?


33 posted on 09/05/2013 9:32:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: bigbob
“How about getting a candidate who has a chance of defeating Hillary before we kill each other over what to name it”

If she runs no one is going to beat her.

I've got to thinking lately who could survive a defeat and come back 4 or 8 years later....

I'd say someone fairly unknown, who put up a good fight, and more than anything was likable coming across on TV as a star...Cruz comes to mind

34 posted on 09/05/2013 9:35:23 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Regulator
The tea party is already a viable political party; it controls the republican party.

Is this from the Tokyo Rose school of propaganda?

35 posted on 09/05/2013 9:35:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Regulator

I hear what you’re saying, and kind of agree, but I don’t think we control the GOP nor will we. We are too balkanized. Would love to see a Third Party so that every election cycle it’s not “I’ll hold my nose and vote for ...”


36 posted on 09/05/2013 9:37:40 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hate to rain on the picnic but the Tea Party will never be serious political party.

One reason is because the people who consider themselves Tea Party members are too divided.
Conservatives can’t even agree on a primary candidate long enough to get one into the general election.

But the biggest reason is because of time. Most conservatives are aging and the younger generation has a totally different set of values.
Gay marriage is a prime example. Younger folks are alright with the gay agenda the same way they’re alright with big government.

I’m in my 50s and I come to FR because like a lot of Freepers I miss the America I grew up in.
Sadly the wheel has turned and it’s not going to turn back,


37 posted on 09/05/2013 9:42:52 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: RIghtwardHo

No, the GOP is big business and politics, the Tea Party is the rest of us folks - or normal as I like to call us.

There will never be a time that we can agree most of the time it seems as all politics seem to be about power and only the rich can control with their funds. We do control with votes but will never outvote those that have the money.


38 posted on 09/05/2013 9:43:57 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m down. The GOP is a party of pansies and eunuchs. Let’s have us a second party.


39 posted on 09/05/2013 9:46:14 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Deagle

You can start voting based upon principle as opposed to fear.


40 posted on 09/05/2013 9:52:23 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Antoninus

The fools suggesting the GOP is still somehow a legitimate party which can be salvaged or somehow made right, are FOS or are just part this epic con-game.


41 posted on 09/05/2013 9:53:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: vmivol00

Nice of you... Do you really think the Republican Party is your party and supporting your views? My views are not overnight thoughts but have been fermenting for years.

Maybe you should rethink your own viewpoint.


42 posted on 09/05/2013 9:55:32 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: Tzimisce

Do me a favor, if ya have something to say to me, do it here in pubic and stay out of my PM.


43 posted on 09/05/2013 9:55:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’d have my vote. I haven’t voted for the GOP since 1996. I vote Libertarian whenever I can. But I”m more of a conservative than a libertarian, so Tea Party would work for me.


44 posted on 09/05/2013 9:56:06 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: 3Fingas
We need to get rid of all political parties. Candidates should present their ideas and people can vote for or against them based on those ideas. Political parties force people to choose between tweedldumb and tweedledumber.

Best idea on the thread. The Founders abhorred political parties, and for the very reason you stated.

I'm sick of being forced to choose between two sides of the same despicable coin. Show me that you're a person who loves this country, and has the same mindset as the Framers, and you've got my vote.

The parties can go to hell.

45 posted on 09/05/2013 9:56:14 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need a third party. I was hoping the TEA Party movement could infiltrate and take over the the Republican Party. But the GPO/RNC firewalled us and the Obama IRS cut off our legs.

We seriously need to start a third party, constitutional conservatives. The mantra that third parties are spoilers is no longer true when both major parties have become idiots. If we can’t right the wrongs through the ballot box, I fear a messy revolution where the outcome could be a disaster for all.

When Paul Ryan seemed to be a thrifty budget wonk we in Wisconsin loved him. His position on the illegal amnesty/open borders immigration bill shows he is really a big government, big business toady who can’t be trusted. Most of the GOP has failed conservatives, we need to form a third party.


46 posted on 09/05/2013 9:59:32 PM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: RicocheT

Amen! Everything you said is true and needs repeating!


47 posted on 09/05/2013 10:02:21 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: montanajoe
If she runs no one is going to beat her.

I don't believe that for a second, and I wish that Freepers (of all people) would stop cowering in fear of her.

If Hillary runs, and the GOP-e has their way again, we'll wind up with Jeb or Chris Christie as our nominee. If that's what transpires, then yes, she takes it.

But if the people can somehow get behind a worthy conservative early in the running, and resist all efforts of the Roves and Schmidts to force their Democrat-Lite candidate on us, we'll have a real chance to evict the Democrat Socialists from the White House.

48 posted on 09/05/2013 10:02:22 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Navy Patriot; RicocheT

note that the TEA party is already are fairly effective.
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Thought I was being ‘anal’ but it appears that the largest number of TEA Party ‘mentioners’ misspell the Organization they are either vilifying or supporting.
Maybe it does mean ‘nothing’ but I liken it to the people who refer to Seals........

It is a good idea to be aware of what one is ‘talking’ about.


49 posted on 09/05/2013 10:15:14 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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To: Navy Patriot; RicocheT

but I liken it to the people who refer to Seals....
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(OOPS)

When they are trying to say SEALs......

It is a good idea to be aware of what one is ‘talking’ about. Hmm


50 posted on 09/05/2013 10:24:01 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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