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Racial Profiling and Surviving the 'White Gaze'
MSNBC's The Grio ^ | September 5, 2013 | George Yancy

Posted on 09/05/2013 9:35:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

At the New York Times, professor of philosophy George Yancy writes an incisive piece about white people's fear of blacks, which he says is global and has origins in Europe. For centuries, black people have been reduced to constricting and false stereotypes that force them to move through social spaces in a way designed to put whites at ease, he says. "We fear that our black bodies incite an accusation," he writes.

My point here is to say that the white gaze is global and historically mobile. And its origins, while from Europe, are deeply seated in the making of America.

Black bodies in America continue to be reduced to their surfaces and to stereotypes that are constricting and false, that often force those black bodies to move through social spaces in ways that put white people at ease. We fear that our black bodies incite an accusation. We move in ways that help us to survive the procrustean gazes of white people. We dread that those who see us might feel the irrational fear to stand their ground rather than "finding common ground," a reference that was made by Bernice King as she spoke about the legacy of her father at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.

The white gaze is also hegemonic, historically grounded in material relations of white power: it was deemed disrespectful for a black person to violate the white gaze by looking directly into the eyes of someone white. The white gaze is also ethically solipsistic: within it only whites have the capacity of making valid moral judgments....

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I tire of this attitude, and I'll bet I'm not alone.
1 posted on 09/05/2013 9:35:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm also scared of sharks bears, raccoons and other wild animals.
2 posted on 09/05/2013 9:41:07 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So he is blaming Charlemagne not Bush for White Privilege.


3 posted on 09/05/2013 9:41:54 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i;m scared of all feral animals, regardless of race.


4 posted on 09/05/2013 9:42:20 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And just wtf is the ‘white gaze’?


5 posted on 09/05/2013 9:42:41 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: bravo whiskey

humans MUST discriminate....its for survival...we learn from a very young age...even a baby knows which end is up....


6 posted on 09/05/2013 9:44:18 PM PDT by cherry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s WAY past time to “find common ground”, WHEN YOUR HEAD IS BEING BEATEN INTO THE GROUND.


7 posted on 09/05/2013 9:44:58 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know about them evil white men going around judging everyone by skin color!


8 posted on 09/05/2013 9:45:22 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The black persona= an inferiority complex that they just can’t shake off.


9 posted on 09/05/2013 9:45:52 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: barmag25
"And just wtf is White gaze?"
10 posted on 09/05/2013 9:46:27 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The idea of “the gaze” is postmodernist claptrap conceived by the French philosopher Jaques Lacan.


11 posted on 09/05/2013 9:47:18 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>> black people have been reduced to constricting and false stereotypes that force them to move through social spaces in a way designed to put whites at ease<<<

If this was true there would be less black on white crime. The best way to put me a white person at ease is to not target others both black and white or red blue and green for that matter. Reduce the number of criminals in the black community and this just might go away.


12 posted on 09/05/2013 9:48:10 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>My point here is to say that the white gaze is global and historically mobile. And its origins, while from Europe, are deeply seated in the making of America.<<

No, it’s deeply seated in our desire not to be raped, robbed, assaulted or murdered.


13 posted on 09/05/2013 9:49:57 PM PDT by KAESNO2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wow, the White Gaze, I didn't realize I had so much power.

I wonder, if I Gaze, and then lift my hand, palm out, and slowly move my thumb and four fingers slightly together, can I choke someone from afar?

14 posted on 09/05/2013 9:50:12 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: barmag25
And just wtf is the ‘white gaze’?
Beats the heck out of me, but if Mr. Yancey is looking for true racism, all he needs to do is GAZE into a mirror.
15 posted on 09/05/2013 9:55:26 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
investment advice..

the perennially best investment is the victim's industry. Cannot fail. Good for thousands of years or until the last cracker is dead.

16 posted on 09/05/2013 9:56:41 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: KAESNO2
Mr Yancy doesn't want to deal with the same types of thugs white people try to avoid. Let him go walk the streets of Chicago or any other city and he will understand the white gaze, whatever that is.
17 posted on 09/05/2013 9:56:47 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags f All Colors)
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To: KAESNO2

I predict that most people in this country will be wearing pistols on their hips two to three years from now, at this rate.


18 posted on 09/05/2013 9:59:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: BigCinBigD

Lol


19 posted on 09/05/2013 10:05:08 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A critique of racist thought that amply manifests its own racism. Besides not being able to assimilate facts, liberals are incapable of hearing their own words. They cobble words together without the vaguest conception of what they’re saying.


20 posted on 09/05/2013 10:05:32 PM PDT by Spok
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those white devils must be up to no good again.


21 posted on 09/05/2013 10:17:40 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I tire of this attitude, and I'll bet I'm not alone.

You're not alone...and it goes both ways. A couple at church (Tongan husband/Somoan wife) had a couple daughters that had what I labeled the "minority glare" perpetually directed at white members of the congregation. It made no sense. I've encountered the same from groups of blacks in various places. It's my cue to give them a wide berth. Particularly now with the prevalence of beat down attacks by black mobs.

22 posted on 09/05/2013 10:21:51 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Read George Yancy's entire piece at the New York Times."

I think not.

Last week had a very disturbing experience with a back male that still has me very PO.

It's only due to liberal self imposed affirmative action that the author gets paid to write this crap.

23 posted on 09/05/2013 10:37:17 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And when I worked in customer service...I was sure to give black people even better service because I was always worried if I didn’t run to help them they would think I was racist for ignoring them.

I wanted their money in the till as much as anyone else.....turns out running to give them great service was probably causing the reverse to happen....they assumed I was running to them because I thought they would steal something.

Now I’m in a different kind of job...one that makes me show up on people’s doorsteps when they have a crisis...and of course I only show up because I hate black people if you listen to the comments I get.

This is what happens if you live your life around other people’s irrational beliefs.


24 posted on 09/05/2013 10:43:30 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All right. Had to click on the story.

UBERSUPERNOVABARFAPALOOZA

No doubt majored in black studies with a minor in journalism.

In a real world meritocracy he would be striking at Walmart or Mickey D's to get a "living wage" and stealing his Mom's social security money.

They must teach that if you use "big" words that people will think that you're smart and they'll pay attention to you.

25 posted on 09/05/2013 11:07:39 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Black bodies in America continue to be reduced to their surfaces and to stereotypes that are constricting and false, that often force those black bodies to move through social spaces in ways that put white people at ease.

Indeed, there are insights to be found in this essay. Though not necessarily what the esteemed philosopher or his editor would have you believe.

For example, the above pull-quote. Ask yourself, "Who is he talking about?" Is it not white liberals? They see the "surface" only and ascribe to all blacks certain characteristics -- chief among them inferiority. Liberal attitudes thus constrict blacks to move through "social spaces" in ways that put white liberals at ease. I.e., a certain obeisance...or "plantation mentality".

Given that a Prof. Yancey would necessarily swim in a sea of white liberalism on a college campus, he has accurately described the blacks' highly compromised situation...in this particular context.

Prof. Yancey's problem is that he has probably never met a white conservative -- whom he would approach with his own set of prejudiced predispositions (courtesy of his white liberal "friends").

The pity is that this "conversation about race" can never be had with white liberals -- who are the keepers of the affirmative action gate and, thus, "owed" by blacks, even though they are the purveyors of an insidious racism.

That "conversation" can only be had with white conservatives -- who will a.) listen and b.) respond honestly. Liberals are congenitally incapable of doing either.

But, preconditioned as he is, most of today's blacks don't want to have that critical conversation with us. Instead, they will remain shackled to the white liberal plantation.

26 posted on 09/05/2013 11:09:00 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only way you could not notice the racial component to the Trayvon-MSNBC crime wave is if you’re behaviorally conditioned to be stupid about such things. When they’re openly encouraging young black males to be violent (and mercilessly so) against any white person just because the other person is white, how could one miss it?

Something needs to be done to address the problem of these inner city ghettos churning out legions of young males who have zero stake in participating in civilized society. There’s plenty of blame to go around, but we can’t even begin to discuss solutions until this country admits to the problem.


27 posted on 09/05/2013 11:16:08 PM PDT by thoughtomator 2.0
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Indeed.

Anyone with an ounce of situational awareness has hackles raised appropriately regardless of color, gender, or species.

Sorry black people, it ain't always all about you.

28 posted on 09/05/2013 11:17:53 PM PDT by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe)
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To: barmag25

“And just wtf is the ‘white gaze’?”

I think it’s misspelled: I think he’s referring to the “White Glaze” found on Dunkin’ Donuts.

Is that, like, a racial thing, or something?


29 posted on 09/05/2013 11:57:54 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux
Only White people are allowed to buy those donuts..

Actually they give them to Whitey for free.

30 posted on 09/06/2013 12:29:40 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: okie01
I was just telling my daughter about people recognizing something that might be a distraction to others (a lisp, shaking from Parkinson's, etc.) and making a joke or some comment about it. That reminded me of a buddy of mine that sold insurance for awhile. He was assigned with one of the better salesmen. A HUGE black guy - former football player, very imposing in trying to sell insurance in formerly lily white Minnesota.

Every time meeting someone for the first time early on the big guy would stumble over his feet, drop his pen, notebook, etc. Told my buddy “helps the client relax a bit to see that the big scary black dude is just a normal guy”.

I don't know about the “white gaze”, but whoever it is - if they have a smile on their face and look friendly I can smile right back. If they are all huddled around with sullen faces and watching me, I just keep walking with my eyes gazing at the various “scenery” all about me and my hand near my hip.

31 posted on 09/06/2013 12:50:27 AM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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I tire of this attitude, and I'll bet I'm not alone.

You aren't alone at all.
Ya'know, I can hold the elevator for a black colleague at work, joke with a black man at the grocery store and collaborate with people across the globe... but when walking the street and encountering a group of kids be they black, hispanic or white, I open my cover garment and loosen the gun on my hip.

It's not about color.

32 posted on 09/06/2013 2:15:22 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another faux intellectual. Procrustean gaze? Total misuse of the language. He should lie in a Procrustian bed.


33 posted on 09/06/2013 2:42:36 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Myrddin

“I’ve encountered the same from groups of blacks in various places. It’s my cue to give them a wide berth.”

This atmosphere is toxic; most people (rightly) avoid going anywhere they get that hateful glare. De facto segregation; my leisure time is rarely spent anywhere the “glarers” go...


34 posted on 09/06/2013 2:49:48 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

“I was sure to give black people even better service because I was always worried if I didn’t run to help them they would think I was racist for ignoring them.”

I understand what you are describing; at least you tried. I’ve seen too many situations where blacks & whites were held to completely different standards in the workplace, and the blacks would have been justified in bringing suit; somehow they were supposed to adhere to strict work schedules, while IN PLAIN VIEW white female counterparts could do as they pleased. It is wrong, indefensible, and REAL.

Unfortunately, the perceived (versus verifiable) stories far outweigh the true stories.


35 posted on 09/06/2013 2:55:22 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately for this idiot, reality supports the premise he calls unfounded.

Blacks, all over the world, demonstrate a propensity to engage in violence at levels much higher than whites.

So it’s not “white gaze” it’s “black reality”.


36 posted on 09/06/2013 3:40:57 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: kearnyirish2
I understand what you are describing; at least you tried. I’ve seen too many situations where blacks & whites were held to completely different standards in the workplace, and the blacks would have been justified in bringing suit; somehow they were supposed to adhere to strict work schedules, while IN PLAIN VIEW white female counterparts could do as they pleased. It is wrong, indefensible, and REAL.

I've rarely seen a workplace where the rules are applied equally. Sometimes it's playing favorite (pretty girls being courted), but often it's managerial. E.g a car salesman that sells twice as many cars as everyone else can generally be a little late without a word from his boss. If you aren't producing, you aren't likely to get many breaks with th rules.

37 posted on 09/06/2013 3:56:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

“Sometimes it’s playing favorite (pretty girls being courted), but often it’s managerial. E.g a car salesman that sells twice as many cars as everyone else can generally be a little late without a word from his boss. If you aren’t producing, you aren’t likely to get many breaks with th rules.”

I understand this, but these are people delivering the same quality of work (but not the same quantity). The fact that most managers are white might play a role in it, but that is no justification for letting white ladies leave early when their cats sneeze. The salesman is a poor example because often those jobs are one of the purest meritocracies; those who don’t produce (regardless of how many hours they work) make a lot less money than someone who works half the hours yet sells twice the cars.


38 posted on 09/06/2013 4:04:53 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: BigCinBigD

White glaze is delicious on angel food cake.


39 posted on 09/06/2013 4:18:18 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Who am I to judge homosexuals? That's what the Tony Awards are for.)
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To: kearnyirish2
The salesman is a poor example because often those jobs are one of the purest meritocracies; those who don’t produce (regardless of how many hours they work) make a lot less money than someone who works half the hours yet sells twice the cars.

And in jobs where you get paid the same amount despite merit, you tend to see the higher performers getting preferential treatment. Why? Because they make the manager's job easier.

Not always the case for preferential treatment, but I'd say more often than not.

40 posted on 09/06/2013 5:09:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
within it only whites have the capacity of making valid moral judgments....

Anyone who lives in the Chicago TV/Media market knows the above statement to be true. How may times must we watch the Sunday evening news only to find out how many blacks killed or injured other blacks in black on black crime?

Yes, when you act like an animal with complete disregard for the sanctity and dignity of human life, why should one be surprised at how they're treated?

IMO there's no difference between the inner-city blacks in Chicago and the muslims in the middle-east that commit acts of murder and terrorism on a daily basis. The behaviors are much the same.

41 posted on 09/06/2013 5:13:42 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Navy Patriot

“I wonder, if I Gaze, and then lift my hand, palm out, and slowly move my thumb and four fingers slightly together, can I choke someone from afar?”

That only works for Darth Vader or those who have the dark side of the Force.

Don’t know about the `white gaze’ but I do the `white car door lock’ all the time. Like as soon as I get in.


42 posted on 09/06/2013 6:25:28 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: usconservative

If the situation were reversed, how many white adult males would put up with young, white males going around assaulting, murdering, raping, and stealing? Within a day, you’d see organized groups of adult white males finding the criminal white youths and “correcting” them. Black gangbangers killing other black gangbangers does not elicit much concern from the rest of the country. But most of these feral humans also assault and kill other innocent citizens, black and white. It must be stopped.


43 posted on 09/06/2013 7:12:49 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We don’t like white bodies with those behaviors, either. So get over yourselves, and grow up.


44 posted on 09/06/2013 7:39:18 AM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lessee. Blacks commit violent crimes at rate EIGHT TIMES that of whites.
The “white gaze” isn’t racism or ‘privilege’ - it is a survival instinct!


45 posted on 09/06/2013 7:56:26 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Myrddin

Stare back and give ‘em a great big smile.


46 posted on 09/06/2013 10:54:18 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think he’s talking in Black Code. He really means white gays. He’s actually homophobic.

(c’mon, really? ok... /sarc)


47 posted on 09/06/2013 11:01:56 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: kearnyirish2
I was attending a UseNIX conference in Cincinnati. The lunch hour arrived and I left the conference hotel to find a place to eat. The blacks on the street were hateful and aggressive. As a result, I remained inside the hotel for the remainder of the conference.

In 1981 I joined my classmates from the Bell System Center for Technical Excellence (Lisle, IL) on a weekend trip to "Great America" in Wisconsin. We were living in the school accomodations for 15 weeks of intense training. Getting out for the weekend was a relief...or so we thought. Once inside the park, we found ourselves waiting in line with large groups of aggressive (physically and verbally) blacks. Geez...the blacks in San Diego aren't anywhere near that nasty. It was a trip spoiler. We left early. Never again.

48 posted on 09/06/2013 2:49:33 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Stare back and give ‘em a great big smile.

I did my best with the young ladies at church. They were at best civil. I don't know what prompted the attitude.

49 posted on 09/06/2013 2:51:26 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This author is a nut case. He’s responsible for his own obvious racism, wish he’d stop projecting it on the rest of us.


50 posted on 09/06/2013 2:58:12 PM PDT by jughandle
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