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15 Unethical And Illegal Ways That People Get Ahead In Life
Business Insider ^ | September 3, 2013 | Max Nisen

Posted on 09/05/2013 10:13:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Hard work and smarts do get you ahead. But not everybody plays fair.

People frequently bend or break the rules to their advantage and don't get caught. A recent Reddit thread asked for the best unethical life hacks people use to save money or get ahead. We've picked some of the most fascinating and devious examples.

These hacks are uniformly unethical. Some veer into fraud. They should be regarded as informational and for entertainment purposes rather than as actual suggestions. You shouldn't do them.

Via Reddit user the_girl:

"Whenever I go to a big chain movie theater, I get my tickets from those electronic kiosks they have at the front, and I buy the child's price tickets. They're way cheaper.

"I'm always prepared to say, "Oops, did I buy a kid's ticket by accident? Sorry!" if I ever get caught, but I've done this at least a dozen times and have never been called on it."

Via Reddit user Norwegian_Blue:

"Never tell vendors for your wedding that you're hiring them for a wedding. It's an event or reunion. Big price difference."

Via Reddit user Cysurflex:

"Make an appointment for the DMV for two weeks from today online (or whenever its available). Save the confirmation page as PDF or HTML or JPG. Modify the date to todays date and the time to right now with Photoshop or edit the HTML with a text editor or whatever you're most comfortable with.

"Walk into the DMV past all the sorry people waiting hours directly to the 'appointment line'. Get served in under 5 minutes.

"Done this multiple time, it works. Sometimes they say 'oh, you're not in the computer, weird. Doesn't matter - our system always screws up. Go ahead.'"(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cheating; cheats; internet; retail

1 posted on 09/05/2013 10:13:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What's wrong with this one?

"When you are calling a utility/customer service number, and you need to speak to someone but receive an automated menu prompt, choose the Spanish option, then press "0".

"Multiple benefits here. More often than not, they do not hire reps that only speak Spanish - they will most likely be bilingual, and will handle overflow calls in English anyway. Second, Spanish speakers are less common in India, so the Spanish speaking call-centers are usually located in the US - so when you get the rep, you will not have to deal with language barriers often encountered with the Indian reps. In addition, the wait is usually not as long."

I find it interesting these were gleaned from Reddit.

2 posted on 09/05/2013 10:24:52 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Uncle Miltie: Obama poisoned race relations for a generation. Everything is racial now.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

What’s wrong with the wedding trick? How are you under any obligation to describe your event to a contractor, other than what they need to do? The cable TV ploy is just negotiation.


3 posted on 09/05/2013 10:29:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How do they figure this is “getting ahead in life” ? It’s sinking into a cess pit.


4 posted on 09/05/2013 10:30:10 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

They thought Voting for Obama was “getting ahead in life”.

Well, Obama got ahead in life, the rest of us not so much.


5 posted on 09/05/2013 10:34:04 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Liberal Democrats = Communists. RINO Republicans = Communist Sympathizers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think I missed the one where you run for political office , lie like hell to get elected and then screw the electorate for every penny legal and illegal you can.


6 posted on 09/05/2013 10:35:15 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One cheat I heard about, in the form of a joke, but I think it would work.

This New York woman walks into a bank and asks to borrow $30,000, so she could go to Europe for a couple of weeks, then she would pay it back when she returned. The bank manager asked her what collateral she had and she took him outside to show him her Lamborghini. The bank manager agreed to the loan and when she signed the loan, she gave him her keys and the manager parked the car in the bank parking lot.

A couple weeks later, the woman returns and pays off the loan, as well as the couple hundred in interest. The bank manager asked why she borrowed the money if she was able to,pay it back,so quick. Her response was, “Paying interest on that loan was cheaper than paying for parking for those couple of weeks.”


7 posted on 09/05/2013 10:36:55 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the customer is screwing himself with the Wedding trick. One of the reasons Weddings cost more is because they require different preparations (A lot more film, multiple cameras, extra lenses, an assistant), so having a surprised photographer could lead to disappointing results. Too many Reddit types think the photographer is ripping them off because he charges more for the weddings. It’s as if profit margin has nothing to do with it.

It’s similar to pissing off the people who serve you food, if you know what I mean. You may manage to swing “savings,” but your could be unhappy with what you pay for.


8 posted on 09/05/2013 10:43:02 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Uncle Miltie: Obama poisoned race relations for a generation. Everything is racial now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"If you're hungry and it's between 6am-8am you can get free continental breakfast from pretty much any hotel you walk into. It helps if it's busy."

Have never actually done this, but you can do the same at lots of places for a full hot breakfast, especially if you wear a suit.

Wear a suit and you can probably eat for free at most hotel restaurants. Just charge it to your room. I don't think I've ever been asked for ID in 30 years.

Most hotel convention centers you could also walk into events and get in line at buffets and such. Most such events nobody is really paying attention or taking tickets, etc. The bigger the event the better. Same probably applies for large wedding, etc.

9 posted on 09/05/2013 10:44:09 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To this question, specifically: How are you under any obligation to describe your event to a contractor, other than what they need to do?

Deliberately underestimating the specifications for the contract as a means of securing a lower bid is certainly unethical. Unless you are a wedding photographer, you are not an expert on what the contractor "needs to know."

10 posted on 09/05/2013 10:48:36 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Uncle Miltie: Obama poisoned race relations for a generation. Everything is racial now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And this is to make one feel guilty? I know this doesn't make it right but 2 words(or one name and 1 word if you prefer) John Corzine and re-hypothecation. Classic Stalin ie: 100 is a tragedy but 1 million is a statistic.
11 posted on 09/05/2013 10:52:38 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some of these are very interesting.


12 posted on 09/05/2013 10:54:40 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
What's wrong with this one?

Nothing.

Actually, there is a website devoted to evading phone trees: gethuman.com. It was created as a hack by the one of the founders of kayak.com.

13 posted on 09/05/2013 10:58:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They forgot one of the more important ones:

If you’re fast approaching your deadline for an article submission, and you have nothing whatsoever to submit to your editor due to the fact that you’ve been surfing facebook and reddit all day rather than actually working, you can just pick an interesting thread from an internet discussion page, add some stock photos, properly attribute every comment, and make it seem like you did some work today.


14 posted on 09/05/2013 11:00:40 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Penny ante small stuff.

If you want a step bigger in illegal scams, watch “environmental” groups sue the EPA, which then deliberately loses the trial... so that the corrupt judge can then issue a court order to the government to “correct” a wrong that Congress specifically didn’t fund.


15 posted on 09/05/2013 11:05:10 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Cyber Liberty
"When you are calling a utility/customer service number, and you need to speak to someone but receive an automated menu prompt, choose the Spanish option, then press "0".

Or just hang on without pressing any buttons. Usually an actual human being will answer within a minute or so, much faster than if you dive into the phone tree.

And it's not even unethical. Just weird.

16 posted on 09/05/2013 11:07:40 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: Polynikes
I know this doesn't make it right but 2 words(or one name and 1 word if you prefer) John Corzine and re-hypothecation.

What Jon Corzine did is worse than what Bernie Madoff did (after all, Bernie's clients should have known he was up to no good; that's not the case with Corzine). But Corzine has a D after his name.

17 posted on 09/05/2013 11:14:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"If you look like you know what you're doing, no one will bother you. To prove this in college, a friend and I walked into the student union holding a clipboard, walked straight over to a table, picked it up and walked out with it without anyone saying anything."

This really works.

I do inspections in buildings. In operating businesses, I can walk in carrying a clipboard and tools, and start cutting holes in the walls. Maybe one time in ten somebody will ask for authorization. This includes hospitals and areas where presumably security is an issue.

18 posted on 09/05/2013 11:14:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember the saying “What would the world be like if everybody did what I do?” Also if they ran a business, they would be very forgiving of customers pulling fast ones to save a few pennies, right?
I used to live in a rooming house with a guy(heroin/methadone addict) who claimed that he always filled a bulk coffee bag at Safeway with a more expensive bean than what he wrote on the outside if the bag. He was getting EBT, so the taxpayers were paying for it anyway.

Now I have to confess that I hate to buy movie theatre food. When I used to go to the Seattle International Film Festival, I would often have a Dicks hamburger in my purse. And if you are from Seattle, your mouth is watering ready.


19 posted on 09/05/2013 11:16:08 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: Sherman Logan

If you do nothing they assume you’re on an old rotary, therefore cannot navigate the tree. It’s a good shortcut. I really never thought of diving into the Spanish version in order to land in a US based call center.


20 posted on 09/05/2013 11:16:29 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Uncle Miltie: Obama poisoned race relations for a generation. Everything is racial now.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

As someone who has had people try that trick with me re music at a wedding - by the way, no one ever succeeded - it’ s a crappy thing to do and when it backfires, because I catch the lie, the would-be perpetrator looks like a jerk, and also loses my services, because I don’t do business with lying sc*mb*gs.


21 posted on 09/05/2013 11:33:37 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Sherman Logan

An old boss of mine and I were doing some work in the night in a major city. He thought we would get better data by putting some dynamite in the river, inspite of not having the proper permits (not like they would have allowed it anyway). He put on his hard hat and safety vest to look official - although nobody was around.

We were wrong. Just on the other side of the bushes from the river (and explosion) were two security guards for the city park. We noticed them when they shouted “What the F*(&^ was THAT!!”.

My boss calmly walked around the bushes and explained that we were doing a study for the city.

“Oh - okay then.”


22 posted on 09/05/2013 11:48:12 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Jonty30

This is clearly a transaction with both parties better off.

The bank earns interest on what is pretty much a risk free loan and the woman saved money on parking fees.


23 posted on 09/06/2013 1:44:15 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


24 posted on 09/06/2013 1:50:34 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Sherman Logan

“If you look like you know what you’re doing, no one will bother you.
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
That basically still works....try it in a ‘big box’ store, go around looking like you are lost or looking for something and ‘they’ avoid you like the plague.
Act like you are in full stride, heading in a direction with confidence and you are most likely to have at least one person ask if ‘they can help you’.
That may also have something to do with age also as NO ONE wants to deal with the ‘doddering old fool’.

It used to be— before Clinton and Timothy McVeigh— a middle aged white guy with a clipboard and a SCOWL could have access to most anywhere in any large city.
The two above just brought out the fact that just because you have an education and/or a vet doesn’t necessarily make you a ‘nice guy’ -— a status us ‘nice guy, educated, Vets’ enjoyed at one time.


25 posted on 09/06/2013 2:01:52 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Buying children’s tickets for movies should allow most movie goers to retire and live in luxury by the age of 40. Today I am going to go buy at least a few hundred children’s movie tickets. Why didn’t I think of this sooner?


26 posted on 09/06/2013 2:11:05 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I deal with banks a lot, and the best way to get through the phone tree is simply select the “open a new account” option and wing it from there. The phone is answered by a live human immediately, and they’ll usually send you to a live person instead of the phone tree that warned you of a twenty minute wait due to high call volume.


27 posted on 09/06/2013 2:37:35 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

My personal least favorite aspect of the phone tree is when they start it off by claiming my call is very important to them, and that the tree is there to improve service.

No, it isn’t, or they’d have a human pick up the phone. Which is, as you say, what they do when they think it might really be an important call for them.

And no, it’s not. The tree is there to save them money.


28 posted on 09/06/2013 2:55:46 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: Sherman Logan

Yes, I’m not a fan of the trees; they haven’t improved our lives while they do improve the bottom lines of companies. The worst aspect I deal with is when the phone message encourages email instead. I’ve had foreign banks take over a week to respond to requests for information necessary for funds transfers; no way to do business today.


29 posted on 09/06/2013 3:02:43 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I've never seen a DMV with so few people in it! Should be standing room only.

Also, yes, a clipboard and a suit in some situations, or a clipboard, work clothes, and a helmet in others. The secret to looking like you belong. A walkie talkie helps, too, with an occasional fake transmission.

30 posted on 09/06/2013 3:23:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bm


31 posted on 09/06/2013 3:30:19 AM PDT by Vision (Trayvon Martin illustrates the bankruptcy of the modern civil rights movement.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The cable TV ploy is just negotiation.

And it works. When my Comcast Cable bill hit $132 per month for basic cable and internet, I went in person to pay my bill at their office and told them to disconnect my cable, that I would get Direct T.V. and D.S.L. internet.

They fell all over themselves to give me the same service for $69 per month for 6 months and then $79 per month thereafter.

By the way, my threat to change providers wasn't a bluff, I was fully prepared to do it.

32 posted on 09/06/2013 3:44:35 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Sherman Logan

I remember a homeless guy with a suit and a briefcase, but some kind of drug shakes, sitting down at our company’s two-day conference in a luxury hotel—trying to pass, if you will. Security had to discreetly escort him out.


33 posted on 09/06/2013 3:59:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Sherman Logan

“Usually an actual human being will answer within a minute or so”

They are catching on to this one. More and more are switching you back to the main menu to force you to make a choice. I think I’ll try the Spanish option next.


34 posted on 09/06/2013 4:41:33 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Graybeard58

I did the same with DirecTV. So they offered two months of free movie channels.

I accepted. Received a new contract agreement in the mail a few days later, which was very long, small print, and detailed. Didn’t read it.

Decided to cancel my subscription a few weeks later and found out the ‘free’ extra channels were free only if I signed for another year, as described in that long new agreement they sent me.

Wouldn’t let me out without paying for those channels I never used (I thought I would, but didn’t). Said they would simply turn it over to a collection agency.

That’s how they treat 10 year, loyal, pay on time, high monthly payments, customer. I’d sent them thousandsover the years, but they’d be damned if they would overlook $100 for something I hadn’t used.

Hell will freeze over before I do business with them again.

I suggest that unless you enjoy being financially screwed over, don’t do business with DirecTV.


35 posted on 09/06/2013 6:52:53 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (SWAT stands for Storing Weapons for patriots to Attack Tyranny.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Never tell vendors for your wedding that you’re hiring them for a wedding. It’s an event or reunion. Big price difference.”

Sounds like a good, solid way to start a life together, screw over the people with a lie as you take an oath before God.

Seesh.


36 posted on 09/06/2013 6:55:12 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (SWAT stands for Storing Weapons for patriots to Attack Tyranny.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

We cancelled them years ago. For nearly a year, they called weekly, offering discounted bundles that were still full of channels we never watch and had 2 year commitments. We just stopped picking up the phone. Since then, we receive mailers offering the same discounted bundles w/commitments. Don’t even open them anymore.

We are old. Time flies by. We don’t worry if we have to wait a season to get a movie or series on disc or via streaming. We pay under $17/month for one DVD at a time and unlimited streaming. We watch 1-2 hours of TV a day, maybe and sometimes on weekends or holidays we do a 3 hour marathon of a series we like. News channels, even local ones, have clips on Roku, vodcasts or podcasts. Internet fills in the gaps.

We will never subscribe to sat TV again.


37 posted on 09/06/2013 8:57:51 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Balding_Eagle

Phone companies are just as bad - all of them. They lie about what it will cost, how much rebate you will get, charges they will defray,etc.

I’ve had dealings with most of the big name phone companies since 1990, they are all rotten to the core.

There’s a reason that Verizon has a full time security guard in their local office, they piss off everybody.


38 posted on 09/06/2013 12:24:27 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Sprint occasionally sends me bills for around $200 that they say I owe them from 10 years ago, I do not owe and I’ve told them to k.m.a.

I always thought they had to give up after 7 years but apparently not. I don’t get a bill as often as I used to though, a couple of times a year. I just toss them in the round file.


39 posted on 09/06/2013 12:28:38 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Film?


40 posted on 09/06/2013 12:34:53 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy

Some still use it.


41 posted on 09/06/2013 12:57:30 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Uncle Miltie: Obama poisoned race relations for a generation. Everything is racial now.)
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To: reformedliberal

My DirecTV story...

Had them for 19 years. Got it as soon as it was offered. For many years had the full blown package that cost over $200 a month.

Scaled back a bit when we moved, but my bundled Internet/Satellite/Phone bill was still $230 a month. Decided I wanted the new whole house DVR. In the past I have received new equipment for a one year contract extension. This time they wanted $300 for the DVR and $100 per additional room for equipment. Went up the escalation ladder. No one would authorize it. I threatened to cancel. They didn’t care.

I canceled and hooked up cable. $119 a month gets me 50MB internet, TV and phone service. That is not an intro price, that is the permanent price. No whole home DVR (yet) but it is better than what I had for over $100 less a month.

Epilogue - I have now received three phone calls from DirecTV trying to get me back. They are (now) offering me the whole house DVR for free, free NFL Sunday Ticket, 6 months of free movie channels, and a monthly fee of $59.95 (TV only). I will cut off my right arm first...


42 posted on 09/06/2013 1:52:47 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: jameslalor
Isn't that what Jayson Blair did at the New York Times?

-PJ

43 posted on 09/06/2013 2:48:55 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our Country was founded on the morality of the Ten Commandments. Our laws don’t prevent you from breaking the law, just give you a consequence when you get caught. The personal internal morality of a society kept potential cheataing and lying low. That internal control is slowly being eroded to the point that cheating and lying is now put up on a pedestal, not shunned. What a shame.


44 posted on 09/06/2013 3:14:52 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I might have add mine here. When I buy items on six month no interest from Best Buy, the jewelry store, Cabela’s and such I keep my payments up and then at the fifth month I call those who handle the loan and explain to them that I thought it was one year no interest. The call center people will ask a supervisor and then OK the change. Make sure to view the next statement though to prevent accumulated interest being added.


45 posted on 09/06/2013 3:32:19 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Southack

Plus the attorneys ‘fees’ to the ‘green’ group.


46 posted on 09/10/2013 4:13:16 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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