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Barack Obama is heading for a humiliating defeat over Syria:
Telegraph ^ | Sep 6 2013 | Nile Gardiner

Posted on 09/06/2013 2:20:51 AM PDT by kingattax

Politico has an eye-opening piece today revealing the extent to which the White House is staring defeat in the face over Syria. According to the influential Washington-based publication, President Obama doesn’t have the votes in the House of Representatives to secure a win, with large-scale opposition among Republicans, and lukewarm backing among Democrats:

If the House voted today on a resolution to attack Syria, President Barack Obama would lose — and lose big. That’s the private assessment of House Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides who are closely involved in the process.

If the Senate passes a use-of-force resolution next week — which is no sure thing — the current dynamics suggest that the House would defeat it. That would represent a dramatic failure for Obama, and once again prove that his sway over Congress is extraordinarily limited.

The loss would have serious reverberations throughout the next three months, when Obama faces off against Congress in a series of high-stakes fiscal battles.

If Obama doesn’t get Congressional backing for military action, he could still go ahead with strikes against Syria, but it would be a huge political gamble. It would probably be a bridge too far for a president with sinking approval ratings, and his party facing crucial midterm elections in 2014.

A defeat in Congress would be a massive blow to the Obama presidency, as well as to the president’s personal credibility, and could well amount to the biggest humiliation of his career so far.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


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To: Diogenesis
Any translation of the text on McInsane's photo?


21 posted on 09/06/2013 3:25:58 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: wewereright
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22 posted on 09/06/2013 3:29:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: kingattax; Admin Moderator
Quote of the year, at Belmont Club, by commenter "Buddy Larsen", noting that a worshipful interview of Samantha Power was conducted by...Paula Broadwell: "Gee, how long have you two known each other?"

The rabbit hole goes deep, very deep, on this one.

Admin: Is this link to Belmont Club OK?

23 posted on 09/06/2013 3:34:28 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. N)
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To: Gene Eric

Just wait till the video comes in of more children dying—or if they can get one of a few of our ships rolling over and heading to Davy Jones Locker taking with her all hands. Wait til the new 9-11 with sarin in the subway of New York or Boston? Then America will respond the way the Progressives want! maybe they can Burn the Capital building! It work with Hitler and his goons didn’t it?


24 posted on 09/06/2013 3:35:24 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: kingattax

Good. He can follow in David Cameron’s footsteps.


25 posted on 09/06/2013 3:40:59 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

There will be dancing in the streets when odumbo is defeated. I remember as a kid when WWII ended, indeed there WAS dancing in the streets, banging on pots and pans, car horns blowing, whistles tooting and on and on. Defeating odumbo on this sharade will be almost as significant. Alas, he still has those pesky “executive orders”?


26 posted on 09/06/2013 3:41:16 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: kingattax

Like he did with Obamacare, it’s time to start handing out money to the opposing dems? Just askin’.


27 posted on 09/06/2013 3:58:59 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: wewereright
What personal credibility? Is this from the Onion?

"For the true believer no proof is necessary" Stuart Chase. 0 has 51% of the country as true believers. He could be caught in bed simultaneously with a dead 12 year old girl and a live 8 year old boy and that 51% would excuse his actions. The MSM worships that ground he walks on and fights for a chance to stick their noses up us a$$ (as does repulsive NJ governor Christie, nominally a Republican) With the Republican establishment compromising (read caving in on) everything that tyrant wants, and the Democrats and media thinking it would be a step down for that incompetent narcissistc turd to be God, ratings just don't mean much.

28 posted on 09/06/2013 4:07:44 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Gene Eric

Mouth wrote a check his butt couldn’t cash.


29 posted on 09/06/2013 4:15:46 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: tbpiper

I actually think this will toss him over the edge...he is not above launching an attack on his own. If he does not, he will strike out against anyone who questioned his plans...he will be a terror as he takes out his frustrations on the US population. This guy has never been told NO in his whole life and will have a tantrum.


30 posted on 09/06/2013 4:23:24 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: kingattax

It makes no difference. He’ll still pull the trigger since he has already told us he needs no stinkin’ congressional approval for such action.


31 posted on 09/06/2013 4:30:28 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: kingattax

And what, pray tell, does he care? He doesn't give two New Mexican chili farts about "authorization", imperial madman that he is. He is going to give to the order to launch those cruise missiles, Constitution or no Constitution, up vote or down vote.
This is where the average man and woman in the uniform of our Armed Services, and his or her officers on up, all the way to the JCS in the Pentagon, must be wondering if legal orders are being given, to be carried out. These men and womens' oath is primarily to the U.S. Constitution, not to the President (though granted of course he is Commander in Chief). You can't make this up. What a mess. He is in a corner and he is going to freak out. The man is unstable IMHO.

32 posted on 09/06/2013 4:34:00 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kim Jong Un won't have a single "bad underwear day" unless/until we've a patriot in the White House)
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To: kingattax
If the House voted today on a resolution to attack Syria, President Barack Obama would lose — and lose big.

So what's the holdup? Waiting til they do have the votes?

33 posted on 09/06/2013 4:37:44 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: kingattax

It’s a defeat of his own making, and the repercussions are going to reach further than Syria right now. Obama is going to be far more quick to pull the trigger on any future issue without going to Congress just to prove that he, and by his extension the U.S., needs to be reckoned with. And it’s going to make the job of whoever replaces him a lot harder.


34 posted on 09/06/2013 4:39:50 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: tbpiper

A great cause for celebration in my opinion.


This would be cause for a second round of evening libation.


35 posted on 09/06/2013 4:40:39 AM PDT by bytesmith
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To: Ann Archy

Thank goodness for the UK Telegraph!


36 posted on 09/06/2013 4:55:51 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: austinaero

“A defeat in Congress would be a massive blow to the Obama presidency,”

Except once he is defeated,,the media will spin it as him being “thoughtful” and “studious” and “respecting the wishes of the American people”

I heard he brought in the spin doctors of yester year to help him with this. I assumed it was to help sell it. Now I suspect it’s to help re-frame HIS defeat.

We’ll see


37 posted on 09/06/2013 5:05:26 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Tennessee Nana

That is one neat looking cat there Nana.


38 posted on 09/06/2013 5:05:29 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: kingattax

-——It would probably be a bridge too far-——

That is a reasonable assessment but does not consider the other players nor what is actually accomplished. In another thread it was noted that allies would participate in the action in Syrian skies. That would be Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Their air forces are vulnerable to Syrian air defense missiles. That is , they lack the capability to take them out. America on the other hand likely does. So, the Obama ordered action will provide for destruction of Syrian Air defense capabilities and clear the path for the allied air.

The entry of the allies will placate America to the point where although very disgusted, the action will be accepted

Oh, recall if you will that the Qatari armour stopped Saddam’s armour at Kafgee while invading Saudi Arabia and the only Iraqi plane shot down was killed by a Saudi F15 pilot. They have capable militaries


39 posted on 09/06/2013 5:20:43 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: kingattax

A defeat in Congress would be a massive blow to the Obama presidency, as well as to the president’s personal credibility, and could well amount to the biggest humiliation of his career so far.

Enough reason to vote NO right there.


40 posted on 09/06/2013 5:32:23 AM PDT by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco and John Pistole.)
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