If we want America to KEEP any credibility, the Congress will DEFEAT this insanity!!
The idiot and stupid red line.
I’m not falling for it - every time I read that the Republicans are going to stand up to the Bozo in Chief, they fold. Nope, not getting my hopes up. My new motto - aim low, avoid disappointment.
“Barack Obama is heading for a humiliating defeat over Syria:”
Barack Obama is heading for a humiliating beat down over Syria:
Just like the way I said it better.
Well I can imagine still can’t I?
A great cause for celebration in my opinion.
so obama loses the vote to make congress his accomplices in an attack on Syria, or the vote is never held because he would lose it
what happens THE NEXT DAY?
what happens when an angry petulant obama has to face his real job - getting congress to approve even more debt so he can continue to run the economy into the ground or shut down the govt. Something tells me he will be VERY vindictive against the crackas who bombarded their congressmen to vote against his war
I disagree wholeheartedly.
1. Obama’s mission is to hurt America. He’s downgraded our credit, what, twice? Huffing and Puffing and setting up a big showdown, then backing off, will hurt American credibility big time. Win for Obamam.
2. It’s Congress’ fault. Campaign on that next fall? You bet. Win for Obamam.
3. Assuming we DO shoot a few missles, what would we aim at? If I were Obamam, I’d be ensuring to mess up any trail that may exist back to Libya. THAT would also be a win for Obamam.
4. End result of any action in Syria is MB and Alqueda topple and take over the power there. Obamam scores again, as he’s MB friendly. Win.
What downside is there? A little bad press that the press will wring their hands over? Ever seen Obamam suffer over any of that?
The rabbit hole goes deep, very deep, on this one.
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Good. He can follow in David Cameron’s footsteps.
Like he did with Obamacare, it’s time to start handing out money to the opposing dems? Just askin’.
It makes no difference. He’ll still pull the trigger since he has already told us he needs no stinkin’ congressional approval for such action.
So what's the holdup? Waiting til they do have the votes?
It’s a defeat of his own making, and the repercussions are going to reach further than Syria right now. Obama is going to be far more quick to pull the trigger on any future issue without going to Congress just to prove that he, and by his extension the U.S., needs to be reckoned with. And it’s going to make the job of whoever replaces him a lot harder.
-——It would probably be a bridge too far-——
That is a reasonable assessment but does not consider the other players nor what is actually accomplished. In another thread it was noted that allies would participate in the action in Syrian skies. That would be Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
Their air forces are vulnerable to Syrian air defense missiles. That is , they lack the capability to take them out. America on the other hand likely does. So, the Obama ordered action will provide for destruction of Syrian Air defense capabilities and clear the path for the allied air.
The entry of the allies will placate America to the point where although very disgusted, the action will be accepted
Oh, recall if you will that the Qatari armour stopped Saddam’s armour at Kafgee while invading Saudi Arabia and the only Iraqi plane shot down was killed by a Saudi F15 pilot. They have capable militaries
A defeat in Congress would be a massive blow to the Obama presidency, as well as to the presidents personal credibility, and could well amount to the biggest humiliation of his career so far.
Enough reason to vote NO right there.