Skip to comments.Stocks fall sharply on reported Putin comments
Posted on 09/06/2013 7:06:59 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stocks erased Friday gains, with the major indexes down about 0.5%, after Russia's president reportedly said his nation would help Syria if that nation were attacked
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Gold and Silver spike
Geeze, I wonder if all the selfish narcissists who supported this selfish narcissist in chief are going to gain a clue what a terrible president he is.
translation: Stocks tank on the most utterly predictable story of the year.
I hope everyone recognizes that by attacking Syria, in the eyes of the world, and in eyes of most US citizens, Obama has committed an act of war in the name of the US.
A single brigade of Russian paratroopers in Syria would be sufficient to establish a deterrent tripwire force.
He looks like Barky/Jihhah/Tiger.
Make that Barky/Jimmah/Tiger.
Well stocks are back up, I guess WWIII makes for a good buying opportunity
So why hasn’t he helped them yet?
Even if Russia had the ability to project such a force, in all probability, all that might do is start the lead up to WWIII.
Obama would brush aside such a bluff.
We put 100K GI's in West Germany with the assumption that the massed Soviet armies would swat them aside like flies if the balloon went up. They were a tripwire force, a sacrificial lamb. What that guaranteed was not American victory against Soviet conventional forces, but American intervention that could run the spectrum from writing off the force to launching a nuclear first strike. The Soviets never crossed that line because it wasn't clear whether we would actually go all the way, and burn the Warsaw Pact's thousand largest cities to the ground in a matter of hours.
When Yeltsin landed paratroopers at Pristina, Clinton backed off because he made the same calculation as the Soviets did during the Cold War. Thanks to a decade of strong commodity pricing, the Russian nuclear arsenal has been revived. Putin may feel that he needs to re-establish Russia's credibility. If he decides to make a stand over Syria, Obama will have to decide whether to back down or risk a nuclear confrontation. It's clear, from the way we've avoided bombing North Korea, that our leadership takes North Korea's threats very seriously. It would be risky to assume that no Russian leader will ever up the ante. Syria is a former Soviet client state. I'd say he's within his rights to assert a Russian interest in keeping a traditional ally in power, just as we're within our rights to prevent Russia from overthrowing the government of one of our traditional allies.
“So why hasnt he helped them yet?”
Putin only wants to jab the imposter, see how many more things he can make him reverse himself on.
THANK YOU! I've been saying this for weeks, and no one believes me.
I guarantee that Obama will make a move without Congressional approval. He'll say, "Oh, well the Senate passed the measure, but the Congress won't take a vote. One out of two ain't bad. So I've got SOME approval. Let's just do it."
Meanwhile, people are forgetting that Obama's actions are seen around the world as a collective American action, not just the actions of one maniacal dictator.
My question: if Obama orders this strike, and the destroyers fire those missiles, will the military brass step up and either order a stand down or even order a coup d'etat? I think it is BEYOND obvious that Obama is a domestic threat and needs to be imprisoned.
I'm gonna have to disagree. In the post-Cold War era, I think we've established international hegemony at the expense of a crippled and politically-impotent Russia, sweeping aside one former Soviet client regime after another. Putin is merely trying to stop the rot. Basically, we've pressed our bets for over a quarter-century after the Soviet empire crumbled. It remains to be seen whether the Russians will finally put their foot down and say the equivalent of "this far, but no further". One way of doing so would be for the Russians to take over Syria's air defenses, with S-400's based there, daring the US to bomb Russian personnel based in Syria and risking significant aircraft and personnel losses. If Putin decided to take this really seriously, Russia could sign a mutual defense treaty with Syria, making any attack on Syria an attack on Russia. I think the difficulty any president would have with Russia today is that Russia has been pushed around to the point that there is broad public support in Russia for ending this seemingly relentless series of retreats.
I agree. And it goes all the way back to our stupidity in Kosovo.
These aren't dreams - they're nightmares. If they choose a limited nuclear war, by nuking our fleet, we're checkmated. If we nuke their fleet, that's a lousy trade. If we go to the other end of the spectrum, by initiating a first strike, we risk the destruction of the thousand or so biggest cities and military bases stateside to Russian warheads. There are multiple reasons to avoid serious confrontations over issues that don't involve our interests, with an adversary who has the Samson option (of pulling down the temple over all of our heads). The most important of these reasons is that if we're wrong - even if the possibility is remote - we'll lose a hundred million dead.
And we'll lose that mounting an ill-conceived crusade over an issue that really isn't our problem. The original crusades had as their aim the stemming of Muslim power, and they had the salutary effect of holding Muslim armies in the Levant for a couple fo centuries, until the Mongols devastated them and put that genie back in the bottle for another century or so. This "humanitarian" crusade empowers Sunni Muslims who are the sworn enemy of non-Muslim world. I put humanitarian in quotes because if put in power, they will proceed to exterminate anyone who's not a Sunni Arab.
God I hope so. That usurper needs to be taken out asap to save America from his malignant machinations. High time for a coup d’etat. God I hope there are enough good men and women in the Pentagon, that are sane and will not follow this charlatan into the abyss. Oh Franco, Oh Pinochet, oh Stauffenberg, where are you?