Skip to comments.House Might Not Vote on Obama’s Syria Resolution
Posted on 09/06/2013 8:23:58 AM PDT by quimby
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Prevents Obama from hiding behind GOP Congress, or blaming them for his in-action!!!
Doesnt set precident of denying him the authority to act.”
I agree with you — it’s about elections in 2014 and how O will use their votes to attack them. I don’t know the answer — but ALL of them are thinking of 2014.
If they don’t vote, Zero will claim apathy on the part of congress and proceed under executive order.
Flood his office with calls to bring it to a vote
You would be hard pressed to find someone who detests this president’s and DNC policies more than I but as an AMERICAN (no hyphens or special group) we MUST have a vote and if Obama loses that vote I don’t see why it should have anymore significance and the British Parliament vote.
You present your case and if the people’s representatives decide against you (and it looks like a bipartisan no vote) you just move on. After 5 years of giving the boy president everything he stamped his little feet for it is time for our reps to actually represent US and vote not take the coward’s way out and refuse to vote.
I don’t seen a crisis in GB after their vote.
My rep is Lois Capps, you know the clone of Pelosi and 100% on board with whatever obama wants to do.
Congressional Leadership usually does not schedule a vote (on something they support) they know they will lose.
anymore significance and the British Parliament vote.
Because Obama has all the NSA/CIA/FBI files/dirt on all of the Republicans - blackmail. It worked on Judge Roberts vote on Obamacare, it will work again here.
“...if defeat is certain, the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote,...”
In that case, we should melt the Representatives’ phone lines and DEMAND a public vote.
This clown wants to start a war, and he should be held publicly accountable for it.
Lives are at stake.
Too effing bad if his poor little ego gets bruised.
Hugh Hewlitt sure supports attacking Syria.
As far as I’m concerned a non vote is tacit approval for The One to go ahead.
As others have said, the lack of a vote would push the issue of action taken back to the WH. However, they’ll just crow on about dereliction of duty if that were to occur. The entire focus has been less of what Obama really thinks of the Syria situation and more toward having an issue for the 2014 mid-terms.
Hastert rule be damned? Maybe there should be a vote on immigration too?
Obama is going to get the Senate and he will bomb mere hours later. It’s a done deal.
This is also a vote of no confidence in Boner, who voiced support for it, along with Cantor and the other House GOPe leadership.
Obama will narrowly win the vote in the Senate and he will go ahead at that point. Same as Kosovo.
I want a vote and I want those votes on record.
Can’t tell the difference between Boehner and Pelosi anymore.
The ONLY reason they would not vote is to give the President political cover when he decides to go ahead anyway, despite knowing there is zero popular support for it.
GOP has a serious problem in not only being unable to purge the snakes in its midst, but actually putting them in all the top leadership positions. Boehner, Cantor, McCain, Priebus, etc. totally useless to any Republican who wants to see effective opposition to this President.
You know, I can almost really believe that Hussein blackmailed Roberts, when I remember the spiteful little disclaimer in his opinion, something to the effect of “you voted for the guy, so now you can live with his actions”. It’s as if he would’ve liked to have voted according to the Constitution, but he couldn’t because of the blackmail, and bitterly threw the blame back onto the voters. He had a point, but he of all people knows that’s not how the SC is supposed to function (”you voted for this unconstitutionalty, now you get it”).
If they think that the result will be NO!!!
They will simply just not vote at all....
(See: "Day of Imfamy" speech - FDR, "Gulf of Tonkin" speech - LBJ, "Iraqi Freedom" address - GWB)
But this is not a normal situation. In those other instances, we had Presidents who actually possessed the ability to lead. But things are no longer normal. Today, we are left with a President who couldn't lead ants to a picnic. We have a President whose only experience with accountability came as but one of many legislators who vote from time to time on various pieces of legislation - always diluting their accountability among their cohorts, and always shielded from actually having to put that legislation into action. Yet even in that, this man who is now President would not allow himself to bear even the most minimal degree of accountability. Instead of actually voting 'yea' or 'nay' on something that would have no consequence upon him personaly, he chose to vote 'present'.
Congress needs to think long and hard about this one. Because when the missiles are loosed and the shells begin to reach their targets, there will not be anyone at the top leading. As oil climbs to $200/bbl, as Soviet-era anti-ship missiles target our solitary destroyers in the Med, as the war spills out through the southern border of Lebanon, and as Egypt opens the Suez up to Iranian ships under Russian escort resupplying Syria, everyone will look to see this President blaming everyone else for this predicament while en route to the closest golf course or vacation spot.
We are screwed.
I'd like to see if which RINO's are for this debacle. Thanks.
Elections are coming up. They don’t want to be tied to a vote.
I don't think the 80% of Americans against any action will see it that way.
VOTE IT DOWN!! NO AMERICAN BLOOD AND TREASURE FOR THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!! FUBO!!
That's a nonsensical view. Objecting to wars that are against the American interest isn't weakness; it's common sense.
If a Republican were President, the Democrats would not miss the opportunity to humiliate him, if given a chance.
Saudi cash is not terribly useful in a charred, radioactive world.
I think boner should have refused to vote to begin with. He should have said “If he believes he has the authority to act without congress’ approval, let him do it. Then congress will discuss his actions.”
Does the Congress use and follow Robert's Rules of Order? If so, I'd call for the “question” (meaning debate is over and a vote MUST be taken) thus FORCING the vote to take place. Nothing I would like better than to see odumbo humiliated and on his knees. He has bowed to too many other world leaders and humiliated the U.S., ignored our Constitution too many times, lied to us, caused one ambassador plus others to die for his coniving, restricted our military to the point the no longer can fight, ignored or distrspected our allies, etc. (I could keep going). He needs to be humiliated BIG TIME, then dumped overboard.
Personally, I don't believe there will BE a 'next year's primary'.
Does the Congress use and follow Robert's Rules of Order? If so, I'd call for the “question” (meaning debate is over and a vote MUST be taken) thus FORCING the vote to take place. Nothing I would like better than to see odumbo humiliated and on his knees. He has bowed to too many other world leaders and humiliated the U.S., ignored our Constitution too many times, lied to us, caused one ambassador plus others to die for his conniving with people that hate our guts and would kill us in a heart beat, restricted our military to the point the no longer can fight. He needs to be humiliated BIG TIME, then dumped overboard.
As I said, they should have annouced they weren’t going to vote in the beginning. But for boner to take this nation to war just to cover his buddy is criminal. It’ll be even more criminal if there’s no vote and boner says obama doesn’t need authorization from congress. If that happens it will be time to do something.
As always the kenyan wants it both ways. He wants to use Congress as an excuse not bomb now because the Russians called his bluff. I think he would rather blame Congress, drag the distraction out for as long as useful and then bomb Syria when tensions are lower.
Covering for obama will make the world see us as a complete fraud.
If they do not vote the Congress is as culpable of treason as Obama will be in helping al Qaeda when he strikes.
Given that almost the entire rest of the world and about 99% of U.S. voters oppose the insanity of the U.S. violently injecting itself in a civil war between two Muslim factions in a country in which neither the U.S. nor the rest of the world has much strategic interest, going to Congress was simply a ploy for Obama to try to save face, since Obama knew Congress would never approve this. Now Obama can say: Not my fault. I WANTED to bomb Syria, but Congress wont let me. Its THEIR fault. Im blameless. As usual. Because Im perfect and never make mistakes. Ever.
Names won't mean anything. Once the vote tally is known, swaps will be made so that members of either party will be permitted to vote in the way that doesn't hurt their reelection, regardless of how they personally stand on the issue.
You are missing Congress saying yes in the cowards way. You are missing Bohner committing the same treason Obama will when he strikes and helps our enemies al Quaeda take over Syria.
IN all actuality this could be a good thing in light of Putin’s comments/threats.
If the House votes NO, Obama gets to hide behind that vote and say “Well I stood up to Russia and would have gone ahead with the attack but the Congress is too scared and won’t let me”.
By not voting it puts the ball directly in Obama’s hands and makes him be the one to pull the plug and back down in front of the world.
the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote
Yet Obama has, and increasingly continues to, humiliate the House by circumventing it at every turn through his executive orders and other tactics. Obama has no respect whatsoever for the congress.
I agree. No vote at all is permission for him to use our military as his political tool in Syria.
Cantor and Boehner can defect.
Call Cantor’s office. You can get through. He needs to hear from us.
His DC Phone: (202) 225-2815