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House Might Not Vote on Obama’s Syria Resolution
National Review ^ | 9-6-13 | John Fund

Posted on 09/06/2013 8:23:58 AM PDT by quimby

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To: G Larry

“PERFECT!!!

Prevents Obama from hiding behind GOP Congress, or blaming them for his in-action!!!

Doesn’t set precident of denying him the authority to act.”

I agree with you — it’s about elections in 2014 and how O will use their votes to attack them. I don’t know the answer — but ALL of them are thinking of 2014.


51 posted on 09/06/2013 8:53:53 AM PDT by bunster
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To: quimby

If they don’t vote, Zero will claim apathy on the part of congress and proceed under executive order.


52 posted on 09/06/2013 8:54:02 AM PDT by Amish with an attitude
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To: quimby

Flood his office with calls to bring it to a vote


53 posted on 09/06/2013 8:54:18 AM PDT by barmag25
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Totally


54 posted on 09/06/2013 8:55:10 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: quimby

You would be hard pressed to find someone who detests this president’s and DNC policies more than I but as an AMERICAN (no hyphens or special group) we MUST have a vote and if Obama loses that vote I don’t see why it should have anymore significance and the British Parliament vote.

You present your case and if the people’s representatives decide against you (and it looks like a bipartisan no vote) you just move on. After 5 years of giving the boy president everything he stamped his little feet for it is time for our reps to actually represent US and vote not take the coward’s way out and refuse to vote.

I don’t seen a crisis in GB after their vote.


55 posted on 09/06/2013 8:55:10 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: sanjuanbob

My rep is Lois Capps, you know the clone of Pelosi and 100% on board with whatever obama wants to do.


56 posted on 09/06/2013 8:56:10 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Congressional Leadership usually does not schedule a vote (on something they support) they know they will lose.


57 posted on 09/06/2013 8:57:06 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: Wurlitzer

anymore significance and the British Parliament vote.


EDIT: anymore significance THAN the British Parliament vote.


58 posted on 09/06/2013 8:57:24 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Thane_Banquo
Why is the Republican leadership trying to prevent Obama from being humiliated?

Because Obama has all the NSA/CIA/FBI files/dirt on all of the Republicans - blackmail. It worked on Judge Roberts vote on Obamacare, it will work again here.

59 posted on 09/06/2013 8:59:15 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: b4its2late; All

“...if defeat is certain, the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote,...”

In that case, we should melt the Representatives’ phone lines and DEMAND a public vote.

This clown wants to start a war, and he should be held publicly accountable for it.

Lives are at stake.

Too effing bad if his poor little ego gets bruised.


60 posted on 09/06/2013 9:00:41 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: quimby

Hugh Hewlitt sure supports attacking Syria.


61 posted on 09/06/2013 9:01:22 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: quimby

As far as I’m concerned a non vote is tacit approval for The One to go ahead.


62 posted on 09/06/2013 9:01:30 AM PDT by animal172 (Calling Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

As others have said, the lack of a vote would push the issue of action taken back to the WH. However, they’ll just crow on about dereliction of duty if that were to occur. The entire focus has been less of what Obama really thinks of the Syria situation and more toward having an issue for the 2014 mid-terms.


63 posted on 09/06/2013 9:04:30 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: bgill
I pay them to vote. Do their duty.

Hastert rule be damned? Maybe there should be a vote on immigration too?

64 posted on 09/06/2013 9:06:23 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (The Presidency is broken.)
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To: Amish with an attitude
If they don’t vote, Zero will claim apathy on the part of congress and proceed under executive order.

Bingo. And that is what the establishment Republicans want. Congress will have "supported" any action, in the sense that support = an absence of opposition. Given that the Senate, the minority leadership in the house, the majority leadership in the house -- all actively support action (probably, in the case of the senate) -- this spin will give the president all the cover he needs.
65 posted on 09/06/2013 9:07:06 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (never again: done with the Establishment Republicans forever)
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To: quimby

Obama is going to get the Senate and he will bomb mere hours later. It’s a done deal.

Kosovo redux.


66 posted on 09/06/2013 9:07:44 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: quimby

This is also a vote of no confidence in Boner, who voiced support for it, along with Cantor and the other House GOPe leadership.


67 posted on 09/06/2013 9:09:36 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Jim Noble

Obama will narrowly win the vote in the Senate and he will go ahead at that point. Same as Kosovo.


68 posted on 09/06/2013 9:10:11 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I want a vote and I want those votes on record.


69 posted on 09/06/2013 9:10:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: quimby

Can’t tell the difference between Boehner and Pelosi anymore.

The ONLY reason they would not vote is to give the President political cover when he decides to go ahead anyway, despite knowing there is zero popular support for it.

GOP has a serious problem in not only being unable to purge the snakes in its midst, but actually putting them in all the top leadership positions. Boehner, Cantor, McCain, Priebus, etc. totally useless to any Republican who wants to see effective opposition to this President.


70 posted on 09/06/2013 9:10:34 AM PDT by thoughtomator 2.0
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To: Go Gordon

You know, I can almost really believe that Hussein blackmailed Roberts, when I remember the spiteful little disclaimer in his opinion, something to the effect of “you voted for the guy, so now you can live with his actions”. It’s as if he would’ve liked to have voted according to the Constitution, but he couldn’t because of the blackmail, and bitterly threw the blame back onto the voters. He had a point, but he of all people knows that’s not how the SC is supposed to function (”you voted for this unconstitutionalty, now you get it”).


71 posted on 09/06/2013 9:12:17 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: quimby

If they think that the result will be NO!!!

They will simply just not vote at all....


72 posted on 09/06/2013 9:13:49 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Dilbert San Diego
In a normal situation, the President of the United States would offer a convincing case before Congress, and then Congress would go along accordingly.

(See: "Day of Imfamy" speech - FDR, "Gulf of Tonkin" speech - LBJ, "Iraqi Freedom" address - GWB)

But this is not a normal situation. In those other instances, we had Presidents who actually possessed the ability to lead. But things are no longer normal. Today, we are left with a President who couldn't lead ants to a picnic. We have a President whose only experience with accountability came as but one of many legislators who vote from time to time on various pieces of legislation - always diluting their accountability among their cohorts, and always shielded from actually having to put that legislation into action. Yet even in that, this man who is now President would not allow himself to bear even the most minimal degree of accountability. Instead of actually voting 'yea' or 'nay' on something that would have no consequence upon him personaly, he chose to vote 'present'.

Congress needs to think long and hard about this one. Because when the missiles are loosed and the shells begin to reach their targets, there will not be anyone at the top leading. As oil climbs to $200/bbl, as Soviet-era anti-ship missiles target our solitary destroyers in the Med, as the war spills out through the southern border of Lebanon, and as Egypt opens the Suez up to Iranian ships under Russian escort resupplying Syria, everyone will look to see this President blaming everyone else for this predicament while en route to the closest golf course or vacation spot.

We are screwed.

73 posted on 09/06/2013 9:14:37 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: quimby; All
Do we have a Yay/Nay count on the House Rep, on this? If anyone knows where a count can be found, please let me know.

I'd like to see if which RINO's are for this debacle. Thanks.

74 posted on 09/06/2013 9:14:43 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: quimby

Elections are coming up. They don’t want to be tied to a vote.


75 posted on 09/06/2013 9:14:52 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Who am I to judge homosexuals? That's what the Tony Awards are for.)
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To: animal172
As far as I’m concerned a non vote is tacit approval for The One to go ahead.

I don't think the 80% of Americans against any action will see it that way.

76 posted on 09/06/2013 9:15:01 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (The Presidency is broken.)
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To: quimby

VOTE IT DOWN!! NO AMERICAN BLOOD AND TREASURE FOR THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!! FUBO!!


77 posted on 09/06/2013 9:17:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Old Yeller
Elections are coming up. They don’t want to be tied to a vote.

Which is exactly why they must be. It can only go badly for the democrats. Either democrats throw their president overboard or they support a war no one wants. The GOP would do themselves a favor by voting in line with the wishes of the people.
78 posted on 09/06/2013 9:18:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: b4its2late
I don’t think it would be done to give the GOP any extra leverage in debt-ceiling or budget negotiations — Obama isn’t the grateful type — but simply because the weakness it would demonstrate wouldn’t be good for the country,

That's a nonsensical view. Objecting to wars that are against the American interest isn't weakness; it's common sense.

79 posted on 09/06/2013 9:18:37 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Fresh Wind
It's racist not to give the pres__ent what he wants.

Also, Odumbass is not just another American president. He is "THE ONE". The one that is smarter than anyone else in government, heck, he is the only one in government that knows anything, and therefore should never be questioned on anything. He is the one that is causing the earth to cool and the oceans to recede. He causes the co2 to disappear from the atmosphere. The one that has made the middle east a region of peace and calm reflection about democracy. He is the one that is causing race relations to advance to new heights.

He is a libtard God among men. Humiliating him would be blasphemy. Don't tempt the Odumbass our God.
80 posted on 09/06/2013 9:18:53 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: b4its2late

If a Republican were President, the Democrats would not miss the opportunity to humiliate him, if given a chance.


81 posted on 09/06/2013 9:19:44 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
I’m betting that Obama will be back in DC next week spreading Saudi cash and he’ll get his war.

Saudi cash is not terribly useful in a charred, radioactive world.

82 posted on 09/06/2013 9:19:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: b4its2late; All
“I just don’t believe that if defeat is certain, the House leadership will
want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a
public vote,” one top aide to the Republican leadership told me.
well...the (Boehmer's) chickens have come home to roost, If Speaker *snicker*...
Boehmer can't get a (simple/non-binding) resolution in the House...
He shall be viewed as truly powerless to guide/shepherd articles/laws thru Congress...
and should resign..but, unfortunately he's NOT that kind of (honorable) person.

83 posted on 09/06/2013 9:20:29 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: quimby

I think boner should have refused to vote to begin with. He should have said “If he believes he has the authority to act without congress’ approval, let him do it. Then congress will discuss his actions.”


84 posted on 09/06/2013 9:23:35 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Jane Long

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/where-lawmakers-stand-on-syria/


85 posted on 09/06/2013 9:23:54 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: b4its2late
“I just don’t believe that if defeat is certain, the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote,”.......

Does the Congress use and follow Robert's Rules of Order? If so, I'd call for the “question” (meaning debate is over and a vote MUST be taken) thus FORCING the vote to take place. Nothing I would like better than to see odumbo humiliated and on his knees. He has bowed to too many other world leaders and humiliated the U.S., ignored our Constitution too many times, lied to us, caused one ambassador plus others to die for his coniving, restricted our military to the point the no longer can fight, ignored or distrspected our allies, etc. (I could keep going). He needs to be humiliated BIG TIME, then dumped overboard.

86 posted on 09/06/2013 9:23:58 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: txrefugee
Any Republican who doesn’t have the testicular fortitude to vote on this matter should be replaced in next year’s primary.

Personally, I don't believe there will BE a 'next year's primary'.

87 posted on 09/06/2013 9:25:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: b4its2late
“I just don’t believe that if defeat is certain, the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote,”.......

Does the Congress use and follow Robert's Rules of Order? If so, I'd call for the “question” (meaning debate is over and a vote MUST be taken) thus FORCING the vote to take place. Nothing I would like better than to see odumbo humiliated and on his knees. He has bowed to too many other world leaders and humiliated the U.S., ignored our Constitution too many times, lied to us, caused one ambassador plus others to die for his conniving with people that hate our guts and would kill us in a heart beat, restricted our military to the point the no longer can fight. He needs to be humiliated BIG TIME, then dumped overboard.

88 posted on 09/06/2013 9:25:29 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Dilbert San Diego

As I said, they should have annouced they weren’t going to vote in the beginning. But for boner to take this nation to war just to cover his buddy is criminal. It’ll be even more criminal if there’s no vote and boner says obama doesn’t need authorization from congress. If that happens it will be time to do something.


89 posted on 09/06/2013 9:26:05 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: MHGinTN
“I just don’t believe that if defeat is certain, the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote,”.......
Does the Congress use and follow Robert’s Rules of Order? If so, I’d call for the “question” (meaning debate is over and a vote MUST be taken) thus FORCING the vote to take place. Nothing I would like better than to see odumboDumbodumboodiumdemobdumberOdomakimboodium’sAdamotomboyOdom’sumberAdm humiliated and on his knees. He has bowed to too many other world leaders and humiliated the U.S., ignored our Constitution too many times, lied to us, caused one ambassador plus others to die for his conniving with people that hate our guts and would kill us in a heart beat, restricted our military to the point the no longer can fight. He needs to be humiliated BIG TIME, then dumped overboard.
90 posted on 09/06/2013 9:27:05 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Dilbert San Diego

As always the kenyan wants it both ways. He wants to use Congress as an excuse not bomb now because the Russians called his bluff. I think he would rather blame Congress, drag the distraction out for as long as useful and then bomb Syria when tensions are lower.


91 posted on 09/06/2013 9:30:01 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Kenny Bunk

Covering for obama will make the world see us as a complete fraud.


92 posted on 09/06/2013 9:30:02 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: quimby
They need to vote. Not voting is saying yes in the cowards way because Obama will go ahead and strike.

If they do not vote the Congress is as culpable of treason as Obama will be in helping al Qaeda when he strikes.

93 posted on 09/06/2013 9:31:08 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: quimby

Given that almost the entire rest of the world and about 99% of U.S. voters oppose the insanity of the U.S. violently injecting itself in a civil war between two Muslim factions in a country in which neither the U.S. nor the rest of the world has much strategic interest, going to Congress was simply a ploy for Obama to try to save face, since Obama knew Congress would never approve this. Now Obama can say: “Not my fault. I WANTED to bomb Syria, but Congress won’t let me. It’s THEIR fault. I’m blameless. As usual. Because I’m perfect and never make mistakes. Ever.”


94 posted on 09/06/2013 9:32:10 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: svcw
I want to know who is for and who is against.....names, I want names.

Names won't mean anything. Once the vote tally is known, swaps will be made so that members of either party will be permitted to vote in the way that doesn't hurt their reelection, regardless of how they personally stand on the issue.

95 posted on 09/06/2013 9:33:01 AM PDT by randita
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To: Dilbert San Diego
What am I missing?

You are missing Congress saying yes in the cowards way. You are missing Bohner committing the same treason Obama will when he strikes and helps our enemies al Quaeda take over Syria.

96 posted on 09/06/2013 9:33:42 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: quimby

IN all actuality this could be a good thing in light of Putin’s comments/threats.

If the House votes NO, Obama gets to hide behind that vote and say “Well I stood up to Russia and would have gone ahead with the attack but the Congress is too scared and won’t let me”.

By not voting it puts the ball directly in Obama’s hands and makes him be the one to pull the plug and back down in front of the world.


97 posted on 09/06/2013 9:36:35 AM PDT by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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To: b4its2late

the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote
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Yet Obama has, and increasingly continues to, humiliate the House by circumventing it at every turn through his executive orders and other tactics. Obama has no respect whatsoever for the congress.


98 posted on 09/06/2013 9:36:56 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: peeps36

I agree. No vote at all is permission for him to use our military as his political tool in Syria.


99 posted on 09/06/2013 9:40:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: xzins

Cantor and Boehner can defect.
********
Call Cantor’s office. You can get through. He needs to hear from us.

His DC Phone: (202) 225-2815


100 posted on 09/06/2013 9:40:45 AM PDT by Starboard
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