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LIVE THREAD: Australian Federal Election Count as it happens
7th September 2013

Posted on 09/07/2013 12:49:49 AM PDT by naturalman1975

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To: knarf

The official AEC count has the coalition on 33, Labor on 11, 106 still in doubt.


51 posted on 09/07/2013 2:19:19 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

What is the Palmer Party?


52 posted on 09/07/2013 2:19:20 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

New party established by one of Australia’s richest men, Clive Palmer. He used to be part of the Nationals and Liberal Nationals, but had differences with them, so he started his own party. Doesn’t look like it’s worked out for him at this point.


53 posted on 09/07/2013 2:20:29 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: fortheDeclaration

May need to correct that - Palmer still has a chance of winning one seat (the one he is running in) and entering Parliament himself, although it’s highly unlikely any other Palmer United Party people will be elected.


54 posted on 09/07/2013 2:21:58 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks.


55 posted on 09/07/2013 2:22:04 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: All

With 13.9% counted, the Coalition is ahead 55-45.

Labor looks like it has lost 10 so far, and Coalition gained 12.

Labor’s primary vote is at its lowest level since the Great Depression, by the looks of it.


56 posted on 09/07/2013 2:26:20 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Palmer might just pick up a Senate seat in QLD.


57 posted on 09/07/2013 2:26:30 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: naturalman1975

It seems it is effecting some other elections as well.


58 posted on 09/07/2013 2:29:07 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Yes, Palmer United preferences may deliver some seats to the Coalition that might have otherwise gone Labor. We’ll see.


59 posted on 09/07/2013 2:30:15 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Care to recommend which news network is best for us to watch? I have found Sky, Seven and Nine online so far.


60 posted on 09/07/2013 2:31:38 AM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: Heatseeker

Out of those, I’d probably go with Nine, but they should all be adequate.


61 posted on 09/07/2013 2:32:33 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: All

I’m finding this rather anti-climactic. I’m ecstatic, but there’s not much suspense.


62 posted on 09/07/2013 2:35:44 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Seat of Griffith (the Prime Ministers own seat) - he looks like he has held it.


63 posted on 09/07/2013 2:38:03 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

NSW and QLD look like they aren’t the bloodbath for Labor that were expected.

Victoria on the other hand...


64 posted on 09/07/2013 2:38:45 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: Dundee

I’ll take anything above 76 myself, but I was hoping Rudd would lose Griffith.


65 posted on 09/07/2013 2:40:46 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

It seems Labor is making the same excuses for losing that the Democrats do here, it is never about bad policy, it is always some other factor.


66 posted on 09/07/2013 2:41:50 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

More or less. In this case, they have their pick of reasons though.


67 posted on 09/07/2013 2:42:44 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

When Conservatives win, I don’t want suspense, I want to see the Left squirm.


68 posted on 09/07/2013 2:45:48 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

A healthy attitude, but I live for the contest to some extent - and at the moment, I feel like it’s too easy. I’m waiting for the shoe to drop.


69 posted on 09/07/2013 2:48:05 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Official AEC count now has the coalition on 73, to Labor’s 47. It’s getting close to the official 76.


70 posted on 09/07/2013 2:53:30 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Looks like the Greens have held their one seat in Melbourne.


71 posted on 09/07/2013 2:54:29 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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Rumour that Kevin Rudd is on the phone to Tony Abbott right now conceding defeat.

All Australian polls have now closed as it is 6pm on the west coast.


72 posted on 09/07/2013 3:01:33 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

I suppose that’s why we have primary elections here in the States. :)


73 posted on 09/07/2013 3:04:23 AM PDT by mrreaganaut (Coolidge 2016!)
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To: melsec

Congratulations!


74 posted on 09/07/2013 3:08:16 AM PDT by mrreaganaut (Coolidge 2016!)
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To: mrreaganaut; fortheDeclaration

Current prediction -

53.4-46.7 Coalition/Labor

Clive Palmer looks likely to have been elected in his seat for the Palmer United Party.

Labor has lost 11, Coalition has gained 12 - official number now gives us a majority already.

Labor still on its lowest primary vote since 1934.

Coalition 77 (76 being a majority)
Labor 50

Current prediction:

Coalition 89
Labor 59
Greens 0
Other 2


75 posted on 09/07/2013 3:09:49 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
I hope it looks this easy for us in 2014!

I remember 1994 when the MSM was crying the entire night!

It doesn't look like Labor took as bad a beating as they thought.

76 posted on 09/07/2013 3:11:49 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
It doesn't look like Labor took as bad a beating as they thought.

It's not as bad as it could have been for them - and Rudd has probably done better than Gillard - but it is a landslide even on the lowest figures.

77 posted on 09/07/2013 3:14:00 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Why do you have Green as ‘0’ they have at least 2?


78 posted on 09/07/2013 3:16:44 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

That’s was the current ABC computer prediction. They probably do have 1 - the ABC computer is going back and forth on that - but I do not believe and have seen no evidence that they have 2.


79 posted on 09/07/2013 3:18:26 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Dundee
Hi to all fellow Aussie Freepers. Have to agree that Labor has done better in Brisbane and western Sydney. Lots of immigrants no doubt saving Labor's bacon. I'm watching channel 9 election coverage. Amanda Vanstone as colourful as ever. Laurie Oakes part of the furniture. I think this won't be the landslide Abbott hoped for. A win but not a ground and pound. That won't bode well for Abbott's future if he misteps too many times. His first test will be the illegal immigration issue. One boat that submerges on his watch and the left wing political-journist cabal will whip up a frenzy. I wish Abbott well. This is not a landslide.
80 posted on 09/07/2013 3:18:35 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: fortheDeclaration

Correction-they have 1.


81 posted on 09/07/2013 3:18:47 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: naturalman1975

Yes, you are correct, it is 1.


82 posted on 09/07/2013 3:19:43 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: naturalman1975

The thing is that a lot of disaffected Labor voters drift over to the Greens which when preferences are counted still end up as Labor votes. The Greens will probably still only get 10 -12% of the vote though. Labor’s Primary vote is pathetic but looks far better on the two party preferred basis. As the Bob Brown affect dies down I can see the Greens shifting back to the middle a bit in the future and becoming, for Labor, like the Nationals are for the Libs.


83 posted on 09/07/2013 3:22:14 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

It appears the Greens took the worse losses.


84 posted on 09/07/2013 3:22:30 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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(Former) Senator Barnaby Joyce (Nationals) has been elected Member for New England, and therefore may be about to become Deputy Prime Minister.


85 posted on 09/07/2013 3:22:32 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

I like Barnaby - he has good instincts although he may not always express them well!


86 posted on 09/07/2013 3:29:36 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: melsec

What policies are going to change?


87 posted on 09/07/2013 3:34:40 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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Rumours that Kevin Rudd is soon to deliver his concession speech.


88 posted on 09/07/2013 3:37:10 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

And our loser voters complain it’s to hard to get an ID!


89 posted on 09/07/2013 3:38:57 AM PDT by MacMattico
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52% of the vote counted

52.8-47.2 Coalition/Labor


90 posted on 09/07/2013 3:42:40 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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ABC Prediction

ALP 59
Coalition 87
Greens 1
Others 3


91 posted on 09/07/2013 3:45:09 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: fortheDeclaration

The biggest thing is the Conservative view of the economy - less wastage, less spending - also the Carbon Tax will get the boot. The borders will be better secured. The “buyback” of water resources will be slowed dramatically as Abbott does not believe in Global warming.

What we do not know yet is what labour reforms Abbott will want to push through. Even though he is very conservative he is a good Catholic as well so I expect a balanced approach in this area.

Labor were pushing the gay agenda (even though it’s basically a states issue). This will stop under an Abbott government. Abbott is very pro-life but he is also pragmatic it will be interesting to see what he can do in that area!


92 posted on 09/07/2013 3:46:12 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: melsec

Great! Thanks.


93 posted on 09/07/2013 3:47:57 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

New Foreign Minister (presumptive) is asked whether Australia would support US military action in Syria.

“Our natural inclination is to support our allies, but there must be a full assessment of any evidence.”

Australia currently has the Presidency of the United Nations Security Council.


94 posted on 09/07/2013 3:56:56 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: GeronL; BillyBoy

Live thread here

Current media prediction has the Coalition winning 87 seats.


95 posted on 09/07/2013 3:57:16 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: melsec
Abbott is very pro-life but he is also pragmatic it will be interesting to see what he can do in that area!

He can and will do nothing. Abortion is a state matter and would be political death if the Coalition tried to change it.

96 posted on 09/07/2013 3:59:08 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: melsec

Listening to Labor give it’s reasons for it’s loss, they sound exactly like the Democrat Party, never has to do with their policies.


97 posted on 09/07/2013 4:00:18 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: GeronL; BillyBoy; naturalman1975

It’s neat how the Westminster system countries name their seats instead of having numbered districts.

Aussies do it differently than the UK and Canada who base the names off geography. Aussie ones are named after famous people.


98 posted on 09/07/2013 4:04:01 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Dundee

Yes of course but each Prime Minister has an effect on tone and attitude!


99 posted on 09/07/2013 4:08:20 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Impy
Aussies do it differently than the UK and Canada who base the names off geography. Aussie ones are named after famous people.

Yes, one of the history units I teach my students involves studying who these people were.

Some are still named after places rather than people, but not many. Geographic names cause problems where borders change (for example, the Division of Kooyong, which is one of Australia's most illustrious in terms of its history (it was held by Prime Minister Sir Robert Menzies for 32 years, and then went to Andrew Peacock who was Leader of the Opposition, held it for another 28) no longer contains the actual suburb of Kooyong.)

100 posted on 09/07/2013 4:10:43 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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