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Appeals court says SeaTac voters can decide on $15 minimum wage
The Seattle Times ^ | September 6, 2013 | by Lewis Kamb

Posted on 09/07/2013 8:39:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

SeaTac voters will get the chance to decide whether the city should increase its minimum wage to a nation-leading $15 per hour, after a state appeals court today reversed a judge’s ruling from August that disqualified signatures needed to place the measure on November’s ballot.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: minimumwage

1 posted on 09/07/2013 8:39:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why stop at $15 an hour? Why not $100?


2 posted on 09/07/2013 8:44:21 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

...they will vote it in, then leave the state....


3 posted on 09/07/2013 8:45:08 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Look for lot’s of pricey quarter pounders. Hey dolts! It’s not just the fast food places that pay min wage. Nobody I’ve noticed has had a gun to their head to work there. I applaud the young folks who DO work there since a lot of their fellow youts think it’s beneath them to work these jobs.


4 posted on 09/07/2013 8:47:39 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Seattle is a lib city. They’ll vote for it and the same idiot libs will leave the place and go somewhere else where their liberal retardity will ruin another red city or state.


5 posted on 09/07/2013 8:47:43 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I hope it gets voted in. Once that happens I want to see every business flee from the 10 sq. mi. area of Seatac.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaTac,_Washington


6 posted on 09/07/2013 8:48:17 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Madness - The inmates running the asylum with the massive ignorance in the us population they'll probably vote for it. Then every business in the city that relies on minimum wage workers will fail and jobs will be lost.
7 posted on 09/07/2013 8:50:25 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is there one or more Boeing plants within these city limits? Does the various union contracts have the common escalator clause that matches the minimum wage when it moves up?

I understand that there is more land available down in South Carolina, Boeing.


8 posted on 09/07/2013 8:50:25 AM PDT by SES1066 (To expect courteous government is insanity!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I really hope this passes. Only then will these idiots see the impact of doing something this stupid. I used to have more-or-less weekly debates with a sociology prof I used to teach with, often on economic topics. She would eventually wind up in a position where she had to admit she was wrong. She always did the same thing: “Well...that may be, but I don’t believe it” whereupon she would stomp off to her office. The clowns behind this position are the same: They won’t believe it even when they see new business formations fall to zero in their city, and a flood of new under trained and under qualified workers migrate to their town.


9 posted on 09/07/2013 8:51:16 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Small businesses will exit SeaTac in droves. The loss in sales tax and B&O tax will destroy the city. Karma.


10 posted on 09/07/2013 8:52:16 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Spok

Why hold back????? $100 per hour sounds “fair” to me. It is only right and fair.


11 posted on 09/07/2013 8:56:29 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sure - and then how many people will be out of work and how many businesses closing down and how much tax revenue will they loose. Unintended consequences.


12 posted on 09/07/2013 8:57:00 AM PDT by SkyDancer (A white woman would be accused of racism if she gave birth to a white baby.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Nah, won’t happen. Judges will prevent businesses from moving or closing,by court order.


13 posted on 09/07/2013 9:01:09 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Why stop at $15 an hour? Why not $100?

Go for it SeaTac voters (the entire west coast it so liberal that it keeps me away)!!!!



I eagerly await your implementation of a $15 min wage - or a $100 living wage - so the rest of the idiotic idolatrous nation can see the results in REAL TIME, not just theoretically.
14 posted on 09/07/2013 9:01:28 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SES1066

No Boeing plants or offices that I know of in Seatac. The town is only 10 sq. miles. in area.


15 posted on 09/07/2013 9:02:51 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I’d love to see that! It would be all over the Internet.


16 posted on 09/07/2013 9:03:51 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is a good way for Lilly white liberals to be able to drive blacks out of their city without losing their liberal street cred.


17 posted on 09/07/2013 9:05:39 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

SeaTac is where the Seattle Tacoma airport is. Lots of food vendors, gift shops, hotels, and Somali rent a car shuttlers. I guess all of these will shut down. Peeps will have to be sure to bring their own sandwiches, beverages, reading material, and not plan on buying any little gifts in the airport.


18 posted on 09/07/2013 9:16:21 AM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Collectivism: Bringing on unintended consequences and deflecting the blame.


19 posted on 09/07/2013 9:24:09 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is Rule #1 in How to Raise Taxes and Kill Jobs.


20 posted on 09/07/2013 9:25:43 AM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And when $15 doesn’t cut it, how much is enough?


21 posted on 09/07/2013 9:31:33 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: SES1066

“Is there one or more Boeing plants within these city limits? Does the various union contracts have the common escalator clause that matches the minimum wage when it moves up?”

Man, does this sound like SEIU. They have been trying to get in to the captive Airports cash flow for long time now.

This is about the Airport Businesses, and forcing them to pay more. Alaska Airlines is HQ’d in the City, and has outsourced a lot of the service functions, as well as the hotels, the Car Rentals, the Cargo Handlers, etc.

They can’t move, and most are non-union.


22 posted on 09/07/2013 9:39:25 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
There does happen to be a large Boeing warehouse at the north end of the SeaTac runway, and within city limits. Haven't a clue how many work there.

The business I work for (an airport transportation company) will be directly affected. Even though our company HQ is not in SeaTac, because most of our business is done at the airport, ALL of our drivers and our airport people are considered to be working in SeaTac. Therefore, the $15 an hour wage will be theirs as well. We have over 150 drivers. We're facing the prospect (if this gets passed) of either raising our rates to insane levels to cover payroll, cutting our staff and affecting available service, or the company president just saying “The Hell with it!” and closing up shop. I am not a driver, but I work in the office at HQ. I may lose my job if this gets passed. As a married man with 4 kids and 50 years of age, I'd be screwed beyond belief. No prospects of a job for someone my age.

I hope to God the people up in SeaTac wise up. Their potential idiocy could spell disaster for many...including me.

23 posted on 09/07/2013 9:40:15 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: hoagy62

I know the Boeing warehouse you speak of. I totally forgot about it.


24 posted on 09/07/2013 9:44:19 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

First, the businesses at the fringes of the city will fail when customers can simply walk across the street or drive an extra block to avoid the inflated prices that’ll come with the inflated wages. Then the ripple effect will effectively cause a donut of business death to grow block by block until the negative ramifications of an artificially-high minimum wage are clear for even the most clueless leftist to see.

Business owners just outside the city limits have a built-in advertising bonanza with “Our burgers cost less than the Sea-Tac burgers and taste as good, maybe better. Come give us a try.” or pizza or chicken joints or any other biz that typically pays low wages.


25 posted on 09/07/2013 10:08:26 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It would serve them right if this gets voted in. The idiots working minimum wage jobs would find out real quick that that companies would replace them with...

High school grads that could, read and write, do basic math, weren't stoned all the time, came to work on time, and understood and spoke English.

Just requiring a High School diploma would put a serious road block on their affirmative action agendas.

The freaks covered with piercings and tattoos would be gone instantly along with the felons.

26 posted on 09/07/2013 10:13:49 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This will at least give time for businesses to relocate out of the area.


27 posted on 09/07/2013 10:21:37 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

Great....except what about the businesses that CAN’T relocate? The one I work for has been around for over 25 years and this might just kill it.


28 posted on 09/07/2013 11:00:47 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Why stop at $15 an hour? Why not $100?

Beat me to it. They're only making a loaf of bread cost $10 and poo-poo on everyone's savings. When will people understand that every min. wage increase puts them more behind?

29 posted on 09/07/2013 11:10:24 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
 
 
If I was a local entrepreneur I would start scouting for suitable commercial property to relocate to well outside the ETJ of SeaTac, NOW.
 
 

30 posted on 09/07/2013 12:25:44 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: hoagy62

Sadly, I think Obamacare is also going to kill off a LOT of businesses.


31 posted on 09/07/2013 12:49:25 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Cheerio

Colors are backwards. Reds are Communist.


32 posted on 09/07/2013 1:21:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And what other edicts can the populace place upon business in which it has no obligations? Company car? Health insurance? Paid time-off?

By what authority did the judge(s) decide this was kosher?


33 posted on 09/07/2013 2:04:59 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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Get the large refillable size pop corn...it’s gonna’ be a double feature!


34 posted on 09/07/2013 5:51:32 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: econjack

She would eventually wind up in a position where she had to admit she was wrong. She always did the same thing: “Well...that may be, but I don’t believe it”


And we allow:

Women voting....


35 posted on 09/07/2013 5:54:05 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: i_robot73
That's the weird part....the 3-judge appellate only issued the edict - they mentioned nothing as to WHY they reversed the lower judges' decision.

Makes me think it was done arbitrarily with the thought of "This will make me look good."

36 posted on 09/07/2013 6:33:59 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Since when are wages paid by private companies subject to community vote? Or, even municipal council action?


37 posted on 09/07/2013 10:20:09 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: econjack

That’s the beauty of federalism and why we don’t want a national government. Let the Commerce Clause use its magic to straighten things out.

I wish conservative legislators and our next conservative President would use the CC to club the states into submission on all their abusive, anti-commerce laws.


38 posted on 09/08/2013 6:37:41 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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