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Texas National Guard denies benefits for same-sex spouses
http://www.washingtonpost.com ^ | September 4, 2013 | Josh Hicks

Posted on 09/07/2013 9:23:51 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

The Texas National Guard has said it will not provide benefits for same-sex couples, despite a Pentagon directive requiring the military to treat all marriages equally.

Maj. Gen. John Nichols, the commanding general of Texas Military Forces, said in an internal memo that the Texas Constitution and the state’s “Family Code” conflicts with the Defense Department’s policy, which Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced in August.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: sourcetitlenoturl
Let's see how quick Eric Holder orders the Texas National Guard to recognize sodomite "marriage", even though the National Guard comes under the jurisdiction of the state Governor, unless it's activated for a federal emergency. If Holder orders it, hopefully the Texas Attorney General and Rick Perry will tell him where to stick it.
1 posted on 09/07/2013 9:23:51 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Thank you Texas National Guard!


2 posted on 09/07/2013 9:29:26 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: NKP_Vet

If anyone is interested in the comments thereon:

Another thread from a couple days ago on Texas:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3062140/posts

And one from Louisiana:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3062664/posts


3 posted on 09/07/2013 9:32:26 AM PDT by deport
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To: NKP_Vet

God bless Texas! It’s like a whole nother country.


4 posted on 09/07/2013 9:36:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: NKP_Vet

There will eventually be a federal judge overseeing the entire Texas National Guard.


5 posted on 09/07/2013 9:39:01 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: NKP_Vet
That’ll be “fixed” by noon on Monday (Central Time).
6 posted on 09/07/2013 9:40:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: NKP_Vet

Proud my state of Texas is taking a stand. Texas is proving again it’s worth fighting and dying for.

Can’t say as much for America as a whole, though, as much of it succumbs to the degeneracy of homo-fascism, from the federal governmnet to Obama-voting blue states. Any government, state or federal, that equates two homos as a man-and-wife, can frankly go burn in blazes.


7 posted on 09/07/2013 9:40:24 AM PDT by greene66
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To: NKP_Vet

There is no reason why they should offer them. The National Guard is under the authority of the state governor unless called into active service. They should comply with state law.


8 posted on 09/07/2013 9:43:27 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: greene66

Yes, there is much about Texas to be proud of, especially in comparison to many blue states.

But eventually mass immigration is going to turn Texas into a battleground state. I don’t think Texas will go the way of California since white Texans are largely a conservative group, but eventually 70+% of the white vote won’t be enough to allow the GOP to dominate the state like it has for almost 20 years now. And if Texas has a lot of whites from blue states moving in, then they’ll probably bring their politics with them and that 70+% of the white vote that the GOP usually gets will probably start to drop.

Hispanics in Texas may not be as liberal as they are in other states, but they are liberal, and still vote overwhelmingly Democrat almost all the time. Current mass legal immigration is bad enough, but if something like Schumer-Rubio passes then the flow of future Democrats into Texas will only increase.

As far as gay marriage goes, Anthony Kennedy has made his intentions clear. As soon as he gets the opportunity he will cast the deciding vote to impose gay marriage on the entire nation (seeing this, John Roberts will probably join and make it a 6-3 decision). When this happens, Texas will meekly accept it just like every other state, because the nation has been taught to accept judicial supremacy, and we accept it we have.


9 posted on 09/07/2013 10:01:34 AM PDT by Aetius
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes it is, Mr, Robinson, and I still hope we can get you to move here one of these days..........


10 posted on 09/07/2013 10:13:54 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: Jim Robinson

Believe me, there are a whole bunch of libs here who are constantly plotting evil on their beds...


11 posted on 09/07/2013 10:13:57 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: deport

“How do they prove they’re gay”?

Here’s what makes this entire homosexual “marriage” such a joke. In the military or out of the military say you have two drinking buddies who have been married before, and have no intention of getting married again. But they would like extra bennies that go with being married. In the military that includes basic allowance for quarters and basic allowance for subsistance, at least that’s what it was called when I was in. In otherwords married people make money than single people.

Well these two drinking buddies decide to “get married”. They have an apartment together, or maybe not, but that extra money starts flowing in and they split it, laughing all the way to the bank. Now extra money to party and try to pick up women with. Yous see my point? If marriage is not a man and woman, it is nothing. Same sex “marriage” will cost the US military millions of dollars in fraud cases. And the same is true for any civilian company that gives extra benefits to marriage people. It’s lunacy.


12 posted on 09/07/2013 10:16:22 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: TurkeyLurkey

Hah, love it. Let’s count the seconds before Eric Holder is breathing down Texas’ neck.


13 posted on 09/07/2013 10:17:37 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: NKP_Vet
Texas Attorney General, Greg Abbott, routinely tells Hussein and Holder to “stick it”. Abbott, in humor, said he goes to work, files cases against the federal government all day, and goes home. He will not be obedient and accept whatever the federal govn. wants to do against Texas.

His partner in filing against the federal government, was attorney Ted Cruz whom he appointed, and Cruz is now our US senator. Cruz went to the US Supreme court over and over for the State of Texas.

If Holder comes after Texas for not catering to homosexual marriage, you can bet Abbott will go ballistic and fight Hussein/Holder again.

14 posted on 09/07/2013 10:27:40 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: flaglady47

:-)

I just pray for alertness, need I say, courage? on the part of our elected representatives, local, state and federal.
The voter fraud business needs to be fixed; the GOPs have had plenty of time (at least 3 national elections) to do something about it. They have not. Houston is one big culprit; Dallas is another.


15 posted on 09/07/2013 10:34:40 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: NKP_Vet
Good point. "DuffelBlog" beat you to it, though:

Entire Military Comes Out Of Closet, Confirms They Are All Gay

16 posted on 09/07/2013 10:41:43 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Aetius; Jim Robinson; All
“But eventually mass immigration is going to turn Texas into a battleground state.”

Actually, that isn't true. I just read a report yesterday about that and our State Republican Party is growing at a more than average rate and it's the Hispanics who are making that difference. The Democrat Party is not growing even though the Democrats at the federal level are pouring millions into Texas to try to bring about that change of which you speak.

Our state party has made an effort to go face to face with Latinos and they are responding by becoming Republicans and candidates for our party.

Another effort the state party is doing, is opening year round Republican offices in Latino areas. This is genius since I have seen this happen before as we did it in the county where I was. We opened a Republican office and people came. There was no Democrat office and their numbers kept going down. We turned that county into a Republican County.

Our State Party Chairman, Steve Munisteri, has been pulling in money from all over the state and the party has money to make these efforts to reach the Latinos. Latinos in Texas are not for homosexual marriage but they are for working, being independent, and making Texas better which means they will have better lives. These Latinos are becoming Republican every day.

So, I reject these posts that say Texas will become a battle ground or blue - it isn't going to happen and we are working to make sure it doesn't happen.

17 posted on 09/07/2013 10:44:26 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Aetius

“As far as gay marriage goes,...When this happens, Texas will meekly accept it just like every other state, because the nation has been taught to accept judicial supremacy, and we accept it we have.”

I don’t know where you live but if you live in Texas, maybe you should move because you don’t know much about Texas.

We have a state law against homosexual marriage and its in our Texas constitution that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Texas has never meekly accepted anything, including the Mexican Army with Santa Anna whose butt we kicked back to Mexico.


18 posted on 09/07/2013 10:49:53 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella
If Holder comes after Texas for not catering to homosexual marriage, you can bet Abbott will go ballistic and fight Hussein/Holder again.

The Chicago way is to find dirt on Abbot, tame him (blackmail), and have him do their bidding. What would they find? Don't know but that is one of the reasons NSA listens to everybody.

19 posted on 09/07/2013 10:50:03 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: NKP_Vet

TNG - finally people are starting to stand up to fascism


20 posted on 09/07/2013 10:55:03 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 17th Miss Regt

It may be that the Texas National Guard will be called onto defend Texas from Federal imposed queerdom. Ironic that the modern abomination-fest was imposed on the nation with a case called Lawrence v Texas. Texas - stand fast, resist the federal overreach; it may be that others will find courage in your example and join the cause of liberty, sanity and morality,


21 posted on 09/07/2013 10:55:52 AM PDT by DaveyB (Note to the NSA agent monitering this: the peace of tyranny is the enemy of humanity)
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To: Aetius

Oh, I’m well aware of the grim prospects facing Texas. But in the bigger picture, once Texas goes down the path you’ve described, the entirity of America will already be rather lost, so it’s an awfully moot point.

And indeed, once the SC/Feds force homo-marriage onto all the states, the country just might as well burn to the ground. We’re already transitioning from a country that achieved greatness and exceptionalism to one that is actually now embracing depravity and evil.


22 posted on 09/07/2013 10:59:03 AM PDT by greene66
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To: 17th Miss Regt; Jim Robinson
“The Chicago way is to find dirt on Abbot, tame him (blackmail), and have him do their bidding. What would they find?”

Your post made me laugh - they will find a tree fell on Abbott in his college days when he was jogging, and he has been wheelchair bound since then. He finished college, then kept going to become an attorney. Most people would have quit when the wheelchair got them. He was such a fine attorney and Republican, he is now our Attorney General.

He is hard as nails after going through what he physically did. He isn't afraid of any federal Democrats - they will also find he married an Hispanic lady and has been married to her only for all these years.

Blackmail - not hardly. He would sue their butts off for trying.

We have a Freeper man in a wheelchair who also didn't give up - Jim Robinson who made it possible for us to talk to one another.

23 posted on 09/07/2013 10:59:48 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: greene66

“But in the bigger picture, once Texas goes down the path you’ve described, the entirity of America will already be rather lost, so it’s an awfully moot point.”

Read my post 17, we aren’t going down that path.


24 posted on 09/07/2013 11:05:55 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella
Your points may all be true (and I have no reason to doubt them). But if they cannot tame him they can kill him. An "accident", you know. Poor Texas AG who fell out of a tree while trimming it! And ended up with both entry and exit wounds when he fell. Looks like about .40 cal wounds. Who would have ever thought a tree would be armed?

Don't put that past Obama for one second.

25 posted on 09/07/2013 1:07:58 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“An “accident”, you know. Poor Texas AG who fell out of a tree while trimming it! And ended up with both entry and exit wounds when he fell. Looks like about .40 cal wounds. Who would have ever thought a tree would be armed?”

Since he is in a wheelchair, he won’t be in a tree. I believe he has security because he is in the wheelchair.


26 posted on 09/07/2013 1:24:25 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

Great! Thanks!


27 posted on 09/07/2013 3:12:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Marcella

I know Texas has a comprehensive marriage amendment that bans not only gay marriage but also the euphemistic substitutes like civil unions. I’m glad you guys passed it. My state has a very similar amendment, and it too passed easily with an overwhelming majority.

But do you think that will matter one bit to Anthony Kennedy? It won’t. In fact he probably gets off on overturning the will of people he considers rubes. He’s made it clear how he will rule once a proper opportunity comes his way. So if this current Sup Court takes on a challenge to one or more of the state marriage amendments (and doesn’t punt like they did with Calif’s Prop 8), then there are clearly a minimum of 5 votes to strike down every traditional marriage law and amendment and in their place impose gay marriage on the entire nation. It may even be a 6-3 depending on John Roberts. With the current Court, it’s a done deal. The only hope to prevent it is if a definitive case is put off until after 2016, and the GOP somehow wins the Presidency back in 2016, and then gets to replace Kennedy or Breyer with a conservative (I think Ginsburg will retire before then so that Obama can replace her). Otherwise, it’s over as far as the Sup Court goes.

Which brings us to what will happen if indeed the Sup Court votes to impose gay marriage on the entire nation. I contend that what will happen is some meaningless words from some of our GOP leaders condemning the Court for usurping the issue from the states. And that’s about it.
I can easily see Texas having some of the loudest voices against such an act by the Sup Court. But if it’s just words, then yeah, I’d still consider that to be meek acceptance.

It would be great if a state like Texas would actually refuse to obey such an outrageous, renegade, unconstitutional decision. It would be great if the Texas Governor, Atty General, and the legislature collectively said no to the ever increasing arrogance of the Sup Court. Maybe others would follow Texas’ lead.

But I don’t think that will happen. I think Texas will obey this decision when it comes, just like the other 49 states.

So what do you think will happen if the Sup Court strikes down Texas’ marriage law and amendment?


28 posted on 09/07/2013 8:55:05 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius

Maybe Texas will take a hint from Hussein and refuse to follow any federal law they don’t like. What will the feds do? Put every Texan in jail?


29 posted on 09/07/2013 9:04:00 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

I’m glad you’re working hard to keep Texas a red state. Without Texas, a Republican Presidential victory is almost unthinkable.

But as far as Hispanics go I can only go by actual voting results, and polling data that shows their general views. On the former, they vote heavily for the Democrats in Texas. On the latter, they profess solidly liberal views that shows why they favor the Democrats so much.

Hispanics in Texas may not be as liberal and as Democratic as their California counterparts, but they still routinely vote Democrat in Texas by large margins. This includes races for statewide offices and federal races. Has any Republican clearly won the Hispanic vote in Texas in an important statewide race? Even shameless panderer George W Bush lost the Lone Star Hispanic vote to Al Gore in 2004, and he probably lost it four years later to Kerry. In those races and in 2012, the most heavily Hispanic districts in Texas voted overwhelmingly for the Democrat.

But again I admit that Hispanics in Texas are a little bit less Democrat than they are in other states, I wonder how firm this slightly more favorable view of Republicans is? What if, for example, the Republican Governor and the Republican state legislature decided to stop the University of Texas from discriminating against white kids in university admissions? Would latinos in Texas go along with giving up racial preferences for themselves?

Republican dominance in Texas is due to the party routinely winning over 70% of the white vote. You can argue that doing a little better with Hispanics than the party does nationally helps, but there is no denying that Hispanic voters supply a significant net vote to Democrats in Texas. If illegal aliens are granted a path to citizenship, and if mass legal immigration continues (or is increased as Schumer-Rubio would do), then this advantage will continue to grow.

When it comes to polling data that gauges Hispanic views on the issues I admit that the data is from a national sample and not limited to Texas. But considering the already covered preference for Democrats from Texas Hispanics, it’s probably a safe bet that their views are pretty much in line with the national polling results. And those results show Hispanics as favoring Obamacare, favoring more gun control, favoring a more expansive role for government, and as having among the hostile attitudes towards capitalism as any group. In other words, they fit the profile of a natural Democrat.

Even if Texas latinos oppose gay marriage (increasingly questionable considering the national surveys), then that social conservatism on one issue is obviously outweighed by their liberalism on other issues, just as it is with black voters. It’s not much to pin hopes of increasing support from Hispanics on.

So long as mass immigration continues, I see no hope of the GOP winning, breaking even, or even coming close to breaking even, with Hispanics in Texas or elsewhere. Maybe if the flow were greatly reduced, then after a few decades of immersion within a conservative Texas climate Hispanics would become the conservatives they are falsely claimed to be today. But so long as the influx continues, they will remain Democrat.

But since there is no end in sight to mass immigration, I sincerely hope I’m wrong, and that you’re right.


30 posted on 09/07/2013 9:42:59 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Marcella
Maybe Texas will take a hint from Hussein and refuse to follow any federal law they don’t like. What will the feds do? Put every Texan in jail? That would be great. But do you really think that would happen? That's what I'm getting at here, not what we'd like to see happen but rather what is likely to happen. I simply can't imagine the GOP nationally, or in Texas, refusing to obey the Supreme Court. Judicial supremacy is too firmly entrenched. I don't think most Republicans would even consider it.
31 posted on 09/07/2013 9:46:44 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius

This documents what is happening in Texas:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/09/02/why-americas-political-destiny-hinges-on-what-happens-next-in-texas/


32 posted on 09/08/2013 6:52:21 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

That’s interesting, but I think it leaves out some key information.

Unless I missed it, I don’t recall seeing in there where it actually talks about Hispanic voting results. Those results, again, are Hispanics consistently voting for Democrats by large margins in pretty much every important statewide race.

It also has a very misleading statement when it says that the more Latino Texas becomes the more Republican it is trending. The statement is technically true, but it suggests that the reason the GOP has come to dominate Texas is because of the growing Hispanic population, and that simply isn’t true. Again, the GOP loses the Hispanic vote in Texas, so that population is on net a benefit to the Democrats. The GOP has dominated Texas because it has routinely won over 70% of the white vote. Period.

That alone won’t keep Texas red, but it should keep it from falling into hopelessly blue status like California. I don’t deny the importance of outreach to keep Texas red in the future, but the question is what will it take to win over enough non-white voters in 10 or 20 years from now?

I don’t buy that some conservatism won’t have to be jettisoned to do this. This article says that the state GOP has already pretty much abandoned efforts to enact strict immigration policies like other states have. Maybe allowing illegal aliens in-state tuition is a small price to pay to not ‘alienate’ Hispanics. But the problem is that the Democrats will do their best to make sure any conservative policies ‘alienate’ Latinos. So if the state GOP is surrendering on in-state tuition and sanctuary cities now, then what will they surrender on tomorrow, all in the name of outreach? Obviously there are a lot of Hispanics who are natural conservatives and will eagerly vote Republican. But I haven’t seen anything to convince me that they number more than 30-35% of the overall Hispanic population.

But again, since my preferred action of no path to citizenship for illegal aliens and a huge decrease in legal immigration is not likely to happen, then I sincerely hope your optimism proves to be well founded.


33 posted on 09/10/2013 6:58:10 PM PDT by Aetius
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