Skip to comments.Pearl Harbor mystery being investigated
Posted on 09/07/2013 8:06:50 PM PDT by Daffynition
HONOLULU (AP) - Historians hope to solve one of the remaining mysteries of the Pearl Harbor attack and discover what happened to 29 Japanese airmen and four sailors missing in action.
Most are believed to have been lost at sea around Hawaii and in Pearl Harbor. But four aircrew members may still lie buried in unmarked graves in Ewa Beach and in the hills above Aiea.
"For a long time, we didn't even know the names (of the Japanese losses)," said Daniel Martinez, chief historian for the World War II Valor in the Pacific National Monument. "And I can be honest with you, at a given point in our earlier history, we didn't care, because of the nature of the attack."
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To display their names at the USS Arizona Memorial is an outrage.
The nature of the attack is the nature of the attack and it will BE the nature of the attack for time immemorial
My 5th grade teacher in Chino, California and a friend of my family in Iowa were both “participants” of the Bataan Death March and my father fought in numerous battles, including Okinawa. If they were alive today, I’ll bet their first priority would be assuaging the grieving families of these Imperial Navy sailors. Top of their list.
I don’t disagree. However, I am not sure their names belong aside our dead.
I am willing to forgive the individuals. I cannot allow the attack to be forgotten—or the manner in which it happened.
I really think that is about as good as its going to get.
Even the Japanese on 12/7/41 had boots on the ground.
“Martinez says there’s a proposal to display the names in an exhibit at the USS Arizona Memorial visitor’s center. He said this “will bring total closure to the casualty list that actually exists right here on our grounds.”
Agreed. They and a whole lot more japs finally got what they deserved but not enough.
We try to let it go into the past but the revisionists keep digging it up
I think about this when I see an old western, we modern Americans will never know what it is like to just be able to bury a dead person where we find them, in such a matter of fact way.
“to display the names in an exhibit at the USS Arizona Memorial visitors center.”
That would be a separate smallish exhibit and not with the names of our dead. If you have been to the USS Arizona, you know that is dedicated to our dead. I don’t know if it is still happening, but to see the oil of the sunken ship still rising in the water, takes one back to that time.
While we’re at why not hunt for the charred remains of Hitler and his floozy?
As of last year (when I visited the Memorial) the diesel oil was still leaking and the smell was noticeable. Very haunting. There is still an enormous amount of oil in the rusting shell of the Arizonia. Environmentalists are concerned that at some point the rusting hull of the ship will not be able to contain it and a massive oil spill will result, but even they are not proposing to disturb the Memorial.
Let us not desecrate our honored dead.
From the plaque at the memorial:
U.S.S. ARIZONA MEMORIAL
WAR MEMORIAL OF THE PACIFIC
PEARL HARBOR, HAWAII
“....IN HONOR AND IN COMMEMORATION OF THE MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES TO THEIR COUNTRY DURING THE ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR, HAWAII ON DECEMBER 7, 1941. PUBLIC LAW 87-201”
Gen. Douglas MacArthur said on his return to Corregidor, “I see that the old flagpole still stands. Have your troops hoist the colors to its peak and let no enemy ever again haul it down.”
A separate memorial for the enemy soldiers, away from the Arizona is preferable.
Only further example of the real estate holdings and power of the Japanese in HI. We have not done this with Germans who are allies... why would we with Japanese. Both countries understand that their historical figures play no part in our current relations except that it should remind them of what would happen to them, if they did it again.
It is some whitewash liberal crap, a product of the little twerps and academes (and queers) in the National Park Service which controls the memorial, that would put a plaque up at the Arizona to the attackers OF the Arizona. One idiotic idea. Here’s a question— is there ANY plaque put up by the Japanese in honor to the thousands they KILLED on Bataan Death March or in countless island POW camps (Aussies beheaded, forced slave labor) or to the European internees (jap word for it) in Shanghai or Nanking? Answer: NO. But there are hundreds of memorials from different nations to Americans who gave their lives to defeat Imperial Japan.
Someone needs to make whoever is proposing this aware that this was an attack by the japanese— undeclared war. The ones who died in it are NOT to be honored with the sacred dead of OUR US personnel, in the place where Rear Admiral Isaac C. Kidd (Arizona was his flagship)was blown to bits and his US Naval Academy ring is now fused to a bulkhead from the heat of the blast that day. Hell, no.
“As of last year (when I visited the Memorial) the diesel oil was still leaking and the smell was noticeable.”
Thanks for telling me because it has been some years since I was there.
The other example of that attack that gets me are where the bullets/ordinance hit the outside walls of buildings on the air base. Those were left there as a reminder.
But, let’s not forget it really wasn’t an attack on us as the Japanese didn’t put boots on the ground except the ones who crashed in their airplanes and that doesn’t count. /s
Confucius say man who dig up war explode.
There is still such a thing a forgiveness. I am a native Arizonan. I can forgive a former enemy. And I can withstand the criticism of those who cannot forgive.
Screw them (for lack of better word)screw them all.
Quite a few permanently in the ground.
Native Hawaiians defend their homeland— honored to this day by true Hawaiians who are proud Americans.
The Niihau Incident: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_Incident
A jap pilot in the attack crash landed on the private island Niihau.
Quote:”Ben Kanahele then picked Nishikaichi up in the same manner that he picked up the sheep that were commercially raised on the island, hurling Nishikaichi into a stone wall. Ella Kanahele then bashed him in the head with a rock, and Ben slit his throat with his hunting knife. Harada then turned the shotgun on himself, committing suicide.”
The dichotomy between you post and tag line I find amusing, minimally.
Fine, forgive them. No way should they be honored with the very people- sailors— they killed. No way at all- that is noones purview except the japs.. and they can build their own memorial somewhere else and pay for it, too.