Skip to comments.Obama administration had restrictions on NSA reversed in 2011
Posted on 09/08/2013 6:59:34 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
The Obama administration secretly won permission from a surveillance court in 2011 to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agencys use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans communications in its massive databases, according to interviews with government officials and recently declassified material.
In addition, the court extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years and more under special circumstances, according to the documents, which include a recently released 2011 opinion by U.S. District Judge John D. Bates, then chief judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
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But the Obamabots STILL will not hold their Messssssiah accountable.
However the rest of the country does he is now a lame duck.
I am thinking there are a whole lot of Edward Snowdens (Leftists who are furious with their ‘perfect’ Pres..ent) in this country now. Just imagine all those people awakening to the realization that Big Brother is THEIR GUY! (not our guy) Must be pretty sickening to find out that THEY are really the evil ones, not the Republicans like they have always believed.
YAWN........ What will come of this latest revelation?
Wag the dog. Syria is a cover up for Benghazi. And Snowden is a cover up for what Obama did with the NSA and IRS to steal the 2012 election.
When you think about it, what Snowden did was no big deal. What Snowden reported has been public knowledge for about 40 years.
Big question here and the 600 pound gorilla in the room is, if we reference the NSA taps with people or groups who were audited by the IRS, what names will rise to the surface?
My bet is quite a few big donor Conservatives.
their free medical marijuana cards will help them deal with the pain
Weren't re-election prospects looking especially bad in 2011?
maxine waters commented that barry had this great database back then
The change THEY did believe in did US in.
Just imagine all those people awakening to the realization they have the IQ of a chimp and have been trained for the last five years.
” . . . U.S. District Judge John D. Bates . . . . . . . . “
John D. Bates
I guess it’s NOT “Bush’ fault” afterall...
We have a dictator and tyrant in the White House. Any Congressmen who don’t support impeachment need removal also.
So which agency is that, Joel?
Yeah , like this message will get any media coverage .. /s
How bout this..........
Edward, from what I see, has “NO” money. How about starting a fund raiser for Snowden. I’m sure he could use the money.
While I’m at it, what good is NSA if they can’t figure out “WHO” gassed the Syrian people.
Passed by Republicans maybe, but the text of that Act had been sitting on the shelves for some time waiting for an appropriate crisis. It was written by the permanent bureaucracy, and vetted by both Clinton and Bush appointees in turn. It's just another clue as to the unity of thought of the national Republicans and Democrats.
why only 2 dems cared about this ?
Right you are.
All they had to do was read, “1984.”
Do you think when he was a boy anyone addressed him as Master...oh, nevermind!
. . . which would carry it from that point through the 2016 election.
Nully - are you around? I think I read you mention something about computer problems...
Yes. My iMac finally ate its hard drive.
I’m reduced to trying to run on a windoze laptop. I’ve lost everything since July 10th, not a disaster, but quite annoying.
Trying to get caught up, recover ping lists, update this that and the other software so I can do thing like, oh, I dunno, actually see a video...
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I dont add you to the list...
NOTE!!! I have lost my hard drive, if you joined this list after 7/10/13 please remind me to get back on. All changes after then have gone away, including, sadly, some nifty graphics. *sigh*
Yet he’d still get re-elected today with just a little bit of fraud in four states. Most of his followers simply will not admit they were wrong. The rest don’t think they ARE wrong.
The Constitution is irrelevant to Obama.
Even many of his own diehard supporters now see him for what he is..
a Clear and Pres__ent Danger to Us All.
It looks like I may have been dropped from you ping list. Please add me back.
... Or do I have to threaten you again?
I don't know when I signed up, so if you don't have me down, I'd still like to be on the "Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!"
One threat suffices, you are back on.
Yeah, the hard drive. You are back on the list.
Every time you add or remove someone, send yourself a freepmail with the updated list.
2008... 2008... who's that guy who was in charge in 2008, again...?
They did read 1984... as a guide.
acccckkkk....has the NSA been taking over your ‘puter???
Nahhh, just a hardware failure on an old drive. I knew it was coming, bought a 1TB USB back-up drive and backed everything up on 7/10, then didnt have the wit to do daily backups afterwards...
I feel your pain. Everything is a chore, like trying to walk with 500-pound boots on. Good luck getting everything back where it needs to be.
If it’s an iMac, and hence the backup disk can be left plugged in and turned on full-time, shouldn’t the automatic “no action required” system of Mac OS’s “Time Machine” suffice?
Ah the old oopsie..... has happened to all of us at least once ;)
April 20 and 22nd, 2011 was when the Obama regime requested the ban to be lifted.
The big thing in the news was Donald Trump saying Obama should release his birth certificate. April 22nd was the day that Obama requested a copy of his BC. That is what was on his mind at that time.
So yes, this was about the 2012 election.
And I wonder how many of Trump’s communications were looked at, and what role that had in the current fraud charges against him (by the NY AG?) This could be a very visible and illustrative example of what they intended - and did - with that “national security” information...
My desktop shut down and restarted just the internet while I was in the middle of posting so I’ll try again on my laptop.
It looks like they have 30 days to get approval once they’ve submitted a “certification” saying how they will use the data. The documentation for the previous certification was handled by NSA and FBI on April 11 and 13th, 2011. Two weeks later, in a sudden about-face, they decided to request sweeping changes, with the applications for that sweeping request submitted the same day as Obama requested his long-form BC and 2 days before that.
While the court is considering a certification the collections can occur as if approval was given, if the court approves, and the Obama regime argued that national security would be compromised if the collections were not allowed, in all the extensions they requested through at least September. The court approved the collections while they considered the certification. My computer wouldn’t let me scroll properly so I wasn’t able to see when the final decision was made by the court but it had to be October or later.
I haven’t read the decision all the way through, and skimmed parts of it, but part of the issue was how they could access data - particularly whether they could get access to records that weren’t specifically to or from a specific search term, but also get access to records that were simply ABOUT a search term. IIRC, that’s the difference between being able to see all the records to or from Osama Bin Laden, versus being able to see all records that MENTION Osama Bin Laden. And it involves whether they can look for senders or recipients with US names - which, IIRC, means they could look for all communications to or from Donald Trump, supposedly on the suspicion that he’s been conversing with foreign terrorists whose names they don’t yet know. Or they could look for all communications that I’ve made, or anybody else.
I’ve spent too much time looking at this already, but even from what little I’ve seen, this stinks to high heaven. I would dearly love to find out when the Orly judge overturned the FISA court denials, and how it connects to these dates and events. My mind is too full; I can’t remember the name of the Orly judge who overturned 2 previous judges’ denials of access for the Obama regime and later on claimed that his staff had “misfiled” the record so that nobody was able to find it in a search of PACER (the government’s listing of court records). Anybody remember that judge’s name, or have a handy link to the information about his involvement with the FISA court?