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To: originalbuckeye

April 20 and 22nd, 2011 was when the Obama regime requested the ban to be lifted.

The big thing in the news was Donald Trump saying Obama should release his birth certificate. April 22nd was the day that Obama requested a copy of his BC. That is what was on his mind at that time.

So yes, this was about the 2012 election.

And I wonder how many of Trump’s communications were looked at, and what role that had in the current fraud charges against him (by the NY AG?) This could be a very visible and illustrative example of what they intended - and did - with that “national security” information...


48 posted on 09/08/2013 3:01:27 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

My desktop shut down and restarted just the internet while I was in the middle of posting so I’ll try again on my laptop.

It looks like they have 30 days to get approval once they’ve submitted a “certification” saying how they will use the data. The documentation for the previous certification was handled by NSA and FBI on April 11 and 13th, 2011. Two weeks later, in a sudden about-face, they decided to request sweeping changes, with the applications for that sweeping request submitted the same day as Obama requested his long-form BC and 2 days before that.

While the court is considering a certification the collections can occur as if approval was given, if the court approves, and the Obama regime argued that national security would be compromised if the collections were not allowed, in all the extensions they requested through at least September. The court approved the collections while they considered the certification. My computer wouldn’t let me scroll properly so I wasn’t able to see when the final decision was made by the court but it had to be October or later.

I haven’t read the decision all the way through, and skimmed parts of it, but part of the issue was how they could access data - particularly whether they could get access to records that weren’t specifically to or from a specific search term, but also get access to records that were simply ABOUT a search term. IIRC, that’s the difference between being able to see all the records to or from Osama Bin Laden, versus being able to see all records that MENTION Osama Bin Laden. And it involves whether they can look for senders or recipients with US names - which, IIRC, means they could look for all communications to or from Donald Trump, supposedly on the suspicion that he’s been conversing with foreign terrorists whose names they don’t yet know. Or they could look for all communications that I’ve made, or anybody else.

I’ve spent too much time looking at this already, but even from what little I’ve seen, this stinks to high heaven. I would dearly love to find out when the Orly judge overturned the FISA court denials, and how it connects to these dates and events. My mind is too full; I can’t remember the name of the Orly judge who overturned 2 previous judges’ denials of access for the Obama regime and later on claimed that his staff had “misfiled” the record so that nobody was able to find it in a search of PACER (the government’s listing of court records). Anybody remember that judge’s name, or have a handy link to the information about his involvement with the FISA court?


50 posted on 09/08/2013 3:55:26 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion; LucyT; null and void; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Flotsam_Jetsome; ...

“April 20 and 22nd, 2011 was when the Obama regime requested the ban to be lifted.

“The big thing in the news was Donald Trump saying Obama should release his birth certificate. April 22nd was the day that Obama requested a copy of his BC. That is what was on his mind at that time.”

That and:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2708385/posts

“Amazon’s Number One Seller: Where’s the Birth Certificate?”

Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:44:46 AM by frankenMonkey


61 posted on 09/08/2013 5:46:25 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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