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Gay Inmates in California Can Get Married
LA Weekly ^ | Thu., Sep. 5 2013 | Patrick Range McDonald

Posted on 09/08/2013 12:07:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway

With the demise of Proposition 8 -- the gay marriage ban -- gay inmates in California can get married to their same-sex partners, the Associated Press has reported. In an August 30 memo, state prison officials stated that due to the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling that "effectively invalidated" Proposition 8, they "must accept and process applications for a same-sex marriage between an inmate and a non-incarcerated person in the community, in the same manner as they do between opposite sex couples."

In case you didn't notice the wording, there is a caveat in that statement...

While a gay inmate can marry a person who is not jailed, two gay inmates cannot get married.

California prison officials state in the memo that there are "security concerns and other legitimate penological interests" for why two gay inmates cannot wed.

It'll be interesting to see if someone challenges that ruling with a lawsuit.

In the meantime, same-sex marriages between an inmate and someone who's not incarcerated can only take place at a jail facility where the inmate is held, but a prison chaplain can refuse to marry the couple based on religious grounds.

So prison officials will allow a person who is "lawfully authorized" to come in and perform the ceremony.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; romneyagenda; romneymarriage

1 posted on 09/08/2013 12:07:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Yaaaaaay!! I was so worried...until now!! Joy! Rapture!


2 posted on 09/08/2013 12:08:42 PM PDT by albie (re)
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To: nickcarraway

It appears as though a lot of criminals must have been “born that way”.


3 posted on 09/08/2013 12:10:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: nickcarraway

they are discriminating if they say 2 inmates can’t marry each other. lawsuits are needed to ban discrimination, right? isn’t that why liberals file lawsuits to overturn marruage laws????


4 posted on 09/08/2013 12:10:50 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: nickcarraway
Awe, schucks....ain't that sweet. Are they going to allow Bridal Showers? Honeymoons? Let me know where it all ends.
5 posted on 09/08/2013 12:13:26 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: nickcarraway

I suppose there is a fate worse than death. Capital punishment now includes death by marriage. :-)


6 posted on 09/08/2013 12:13:29 PM PDT by lbryce (The 22nd Amendment Lives:1142 Days Until America's Greatest Nemesis Gets the Heave "Ho")
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To: nickcarraway
yeah, Charlie Manson, should be very happy now.

7 posted on 09/08/2013 12:15:09 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

They can have sex all they want, the prison industry doesn’t care about that I guess. It must be the spousal communication privilege and what the gang culture in the prisons would then be able to do?

I wonder what happens when a same sex ‘married’ couple commits a crime together, are they sent to different facilities?

FReegards


8 posted on 09/08/2013 12:16:17 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: nickcarraway

So will we be stunned with jaws dropping and go no further.

Or will we call on the God of gospel power again?


9 posted on 09/08/2013 12:17:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: nickcarraway

Well isn’t that special.


10 posted on 09/08/2013 12:17:53 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: nickcarraway

I suppose I should think up some kind of joke. This story certainly lends itself to jokes. Yet, all I can really see is that this is just another little daily signpost in America’s descent into utter madness.


11 posted on 09/08/2013 12:21:20 PM PDT by greene66
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To: nickcarraway

California will regret that stupid move when they find themselves operating a gay brothel


12 posted on 09/08/2013 12:21:24 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
they are discriminating if they say 2 inmates can’t marry each other. lawsuits are needed to ban discrimination, right? isn’t that why liberals file lawsuits to overturn marruage laws????

Then you'll have to allow men and women to cohabitate in prisons, since that would be discriminatory against straight prisoners.

13 posted on 09/08/2013 12:22:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Chgogal
Are they going to allow Bridal Showers?

In prisons, the bridal shower occurs for the purpose of deciding who's to be the bride and who's to be the groom. Soap may or may not be involved. Read what Missy Manners on proper etiquette re: attire, seating, gifts, etc.

14 posted on 09/08/2013 12:24:41 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: nickcarraway
village people photo: the village people the-village-people.jpg
15 posted on 09/08/2013 12:25:16 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

The Sisters from Shawshank Redemption should be thrilled! Boggs? Boggs?


16 posted on 09/08/2013 12:27:17 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57
did they (ever) get off that "straw-fed" diet?

17 posted on 09/08/2013 12:30:19 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Covenantor
LOL....too funny.
18 posted on 09/08/2013 12:31:01 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: nickcarraway

Now you know why they are called penal institutions.


19 posted on 09/08/2013 12:31:12 PM PDT by Random Access
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To: nickcarraway

I know in this day, government officials are allowed to make laws, but just where does it say in the law incarcerated homos are prohibited from marrying? Sounds like another lawyer is going to get rich. The ramifications from this stupidity are going to resonate forever.


20 posted on 09/08/2013 12:31:25 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: nickcarraway

I’m predicting this doesn’t turn out well for those who do it. Bloods, Crips, Aryan Nation, general rapists.


21 posted on 09/08/2013 12:31:35 PM PDT by Viennacon (E)
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To: dfwgator

Right, next up - unisex prisons! Buffy darling, meet your new cell mate, Trayvon.


22 posted on 09/08/2013 12:34:36 PM PDT by Argus
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To: nickcarraway

i thought each inmate were butt-raped and “married” to the guy who did the raping..


23 posted on 09/08/2013 12:36:12 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Chgogal

“Awe, schucks....ain’t that sweet. Are they going to allow Bridal Showers?”

They do. It’s whomever drops the soap.


24 posted on 09/08/2013 12:37:18 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: nickcarraway

There is really no good reason why a father cannot marry his son, or sons. There is no sexual relations requirement inherent in this new “right” and since there in no danger in bad reproductive possibilities, there is no harm that could result. Since it’s all about marrying those one “loves” it looks to fit the new definition too.


25 posted on 09/08/2013 12:37:25 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Yuck.


26 posted on 09/08/2013 12:40:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: max americana
OK, that's the Bridal Shower....what about the Honeymoon? ; )
27 posted on 09/08/2013 12:40:04 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: dfwgator

It is appalling discrimination to deny gay criminals the “conjugal right” to live together. Shacking up would make homosexuals more productive and peaceable inmates. The loving, feces-based couples would qualify for parole sooner and ease the overcrowding problem in California prisons.

After all, isn’t sex the highest possible value in society? There is none higher, not even God.


28 posted on 09/08/2013 12:55:07 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: Covenantor

“...for the purpose of deciding who’s to be the bride and who’s to be the groom...”

Thank goodness. That answers my question about who carries who over the threshold.


29 posted on 09/08/2013 1:04:20 PM PDT by moovova
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To: nickcarraway

Can’t they call them, “Civil Unions”?


30 posted on 09/08/2013 1:09:47 PM PDT by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: nickcarraway
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31 posted on 09/08/2013 1:18:49 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: nickcarraway

32 posted on 09/08/2013 1:29:38 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: nickcarraway

I guess hubby will have to share with everyone his marital bliss! ;-D


33 posted on 09/08/2013 1:51:08 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: yldstrk
California already is a gay brothel.
34 posted on 09/08/2013 1:54:09 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: nickcarraway

“California prison officials state in the memo that there are “security concerns and other legitimate penological interests” for why two gay inmates cannot wed.

It’ll be interesting to see if someone challenges that ruling with a lawsuit.”

It’s Californicate and there will be a lawsuit .... the one thing besides the sun coming up each morning is that there will be a lawsuit in Californicate when the queers, freaks and perverts don’t get their way.


35 posted on 09/08/2013 2:36:32 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Progressives are never accountable for "unintended consequences" .... just for causing most)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m told soap on a rope makes an appropriate gay prison wedding gift. And candle sticks.


36 posted on 09/08/2013 3:05:13 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: nickcarraway

They’ve been living together anyway. This just makes it official.

No good will come of this.


37 posted on 09/08/2013 3:30:30 PM PDT by lurk
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To: nickcarraway
two gay inmates cannot get married

That's just soooo unfair!!! Discrimination!!!

38 posted on 09/08/2013 3:33:04 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: nickcarraway; mickie; flaglady47
Federal prisons don't allow conjugal visits (i.e., sexual contact not allowed).

Some state prisons do allow these visits, even having special rooms set up for them.

New York and California now even allow conjugal visits between same-sex married partners (religious OR civil unions).

Wiki has a list of rules of all states regarding conjugal visits. Most facilities require certificates that the partners are AIDs or other STDs-free before these "spouses" drop in for connubial visitations.

Leni

39 posted on 09/08/2013 3:49:50 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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I was curious how they handle security for these visits. Couldn’t the incarcerated kill or take hostage the visitor?


40 posted on 09/08/2013 4:06:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Random Access
Now you know why they are called penal institutions.

Or perhaps, 'penile' institutions?

41 posted on 09/08/2013 4:08:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: nickcarraway; mickie
Now THAT is a good question.

Cries of rapture could be cries of strangulation.

A camera would be out of the question due to all the untold civil rights of the criminals and their significant others.

Maybe there's some LE folks on this forum who could supply the answer.

It's something I never gave any thought to before now, LOL.....now I'm interested in an answer, double LOL.

Leni

42 posted on 09/08/2013 4:13:39 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: nickcarraway

Well isnt that so f—king special.


43 posted on 09/08/2013 4:18:24 PM PDT by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Let’s see what insanity we can drum-up next!”


44 posted on 09/08/2013 4:36:53 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: nickcarraway
Will they allow conjugal visits?
45 posted on 09/08/2013 5:13:38 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: nickcarraway
" legitimate penological interests"

you can't make this stuff up....

46 posted on 09/08/2013 9:40:30 PM PDT by cherry
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To: nickcarraway

I know someone else is going to say this, but what about conjugal visits? It is to laugh. No wonder they won’t allow two prisoners to marry each other. There wouldn’t be one single inmate left. And would you believe constant divorce and remarriage?


47 posted on 09/08/2013 9:45:49 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: nickcarraway

In a California jail right now, shemale Sylvia Boots (aka Amara Vadillo) ,sentenced to 20 years to life after being convicted of second-degree murder for shooting Laura Banuelo dead.

Some guy is gonna get lucky in jail/sarc off

SFW :

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48 posted on 09/09/2013 9:54:40 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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