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Gun gesture leads to suspension for Calvert sixth-grader (Calvert County MD)
Washington Post ^ | 9/8/2013

Posted on 09/08/2013 4:50:50 PM PDT by markomalley

A sixth-grader in Calvert County was suspended for forming his hand into a gun on his bus ride to school, an incident that adds to a string of recent high-profile cases involving punishments for children who gesture with imaginary weapons.

Carin Read, mother of the 11-year-old student at Mill Creek Middle School in Lusby, filed an appeal of the suspension late last week, after a principal denied her request to remove the alleged infraction from her son’s school records.

The boy had already served a day-long in-school suspension, and Read argued that he should not have a permanent record over the matter. His disciplinary referral alleged that he pretended to shoot another student on the bus.

“There was no threat,” Read said, describing her son as an honor student who has never been in trouble at school. “He’s been punished enough.”

A Calvert schools spokeswoman, Gail Bennett, said she could not comment on the case because student discipline matters are protected by confidentiality laws. The Washington Post generally does not identify minors accused of disciplinary infractions.

The case is one in a growing number involving students suspended from school for pointing their fingers like guns, talking about guns and carrying toy guns. In Anne Arundel County, a 7-year-old boy was suspended after chewing his Pop-Tart-like breakfast pastry into the shape of a gun. In both Montgomery and Prince William counties, young boys were suspended for pretending to shoot with their fingers.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; libidiots; ohnoitsapoptartgun; secondamendment; zerotolerance
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1 posted on 09/08/2013 4:50:50 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

This type of zero tolerance is obnoxious, especially when the three black students who could have killed the younger white boy in the schoolbus beating got merely a couple of years probation.


2 posted on 09/08/2013 4:53:21 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: markomalley

Government school is child abuse.


3 posted on 09/08/2013 4:56:16 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot
So now thinking is an offense in the lousy Freak state, maryland?
4 posted on 09/08/2013 5:01:56 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: markomalley
Remove Ojanago then!


5 posted on 09/08/2013 5:03:59 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

We seem to have a chicken society here today. Atrocities with guns grab the screaming headlines and the silver screens. Defensive uses get the quiet treatment.

To be fair though... To gesture like you are going to kill doesn’t matter as to exactly how the killing would be carried out. Gesturing like a guillotine or a stabbing would be on a par. It ought to get looked into if the context is not immediately clear, and if appropriate reprimanded, reminding explicitly whoever did it that life isn’t cheap. But maybe it was just some kid reporting on what happened in a horror movie. Kids often do things like that without being malicious. Context matters so, so much.


6 posted on 09/08/2013 5:06:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: NoLibZone

"But, Teacher, I didn't even put my foot on the desk!"

7 posted on 09/08/2013 5:09:04 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Just following the example of King Obama....


8 posted on 09/08/2013 5:09:36 PM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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To: NoLibZone
GOOD ONE - we should all cache this pic and post it and email it every time some idiots do this to our kids - and all parents should have this ready to take to school - and say: "When you discipline the POTUS, you can discipline our kid."


9 posted on 09/08/2013 5:11:18 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

For the love of God are you serious or did your attempt at humor just fail me? This emasculation of male children has to stop. When I was in school we played Cowboys and Indians and Army on the playground, when we got home it was more of the same. If someone gestures like a gun or a guillotine should be looked into? Sounds an awful lot like that it takes a village B.S. I guess children should just be little robots and never use their imagination, that will sure help future generations to think outside of the box and develop new concepts.


10 posted on 09/08/2013 5:15:24 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

‘Hey preacher—leave those kids alone!’


11 posted on 09/08/2013 5:18:51 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: NoLibZone

What is the story behind the picture?


12 posted on 09/08/2013 5:21:57 PM PDT by TBall
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To: markomalley
PEW! PEW! PEW!
13 posted on 09/08/2013 5:22:11 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Mastador1

For something to happen does not equate to a moral justification (or condemnation) of it. We need a larger frame of reference.

My reference is the bible and to what honors God. Now if it really DOES honor God to gesture at someone as though to kill them, then by all means do it... but the Christ who said don’t fantasize about sex with that strange woman because that’s tantamount to adultery might have something similar to suggest here? Not that it’s unforgivable (sincerely confess to God and get forgiven, very quick) but that we should seek to have a higher view of what God created and called the world for?

Don’t idolize culture even that of a less guilty age. Culture is a lousy idol. However it is a wonderful servant.


14 posted on 09/08/2013 5:26:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: tumblindice

Aww don’t worry about that pesky God! We’ll toss Him away after we’ve used the “best of His suggestions” (human determined) to build our own world!


15 posted on 09/08/2013 5:28:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: markomalley


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16 posted on 09/08/2013 5:28:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Mastador1

Also... consensual role play (let’s play cowboy and outlaw) whatever the spiritual reflection (and the cowboy can serve as an excellent metaphor for a lot of wholesome spiritual things — but sometimes the Indian might too... there’s a reason the Boy Scouts honor the Indians) is a little different than doing what kids KNOW is annoying. Some discretion is needed. I’m not propounding any ironclad, robotic “zero tolerance” rule. The spirit means so much.


17 posted on 09/08/2013 5:32:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Uh, whut? Sorry, I nodded off revrund.


18 posted on 09/08/2013 5:34:30 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Cowboys and Injuns?


19 posted on 09/08/2013 5:36:20 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

There is not supposed to be a special class of Christians seeking to be pure minded and they are the clergy, while everyone else is a stranger to those ivory palaces.

I am very much a lay person. But, I do not lay down for the devil no matter how nice or innocent seeming his game gets. Nor do I undersell heaven! Anything hell claims it can do, outside of sin, heaven can do infinitely better!

We talk of purity like it was some necessary bane. And then we religiously change the oil and filter in our cars... to keep the insides of the engines pure. Let’s stop and think... purity does not mean being wimpy....


20 posted on 09/08/2013 5:38:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: tumblindice

tucked a feather in his cap and called it... cherokee???


21 posted on 09/08/2013 5:44:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Okay I’m missing the whole spiritual thing with Cowboys and Indians and Army, it’s role playing,you know FUN and imagination? Spiritual is great that’s Church time and Mom and Dad time, when are we going to give these kids back childhood time?


22 posted on 09/08/2013 5:46:45 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: markomalley

My sister-in-law, who lives in Maryland, says there is a huge increase in home schooling this year.


23 posted on 09/08/2013 5:47:54 PM PDT by goldi
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To: markomalley

OMG!!! Didn’t the kid realize there was a nail at the end of his finger??? What on earth was he thinking????


24 posted on 09/08/2013 5:49:27 PM PDT by SkyDancer (A white woman would be accused of racism if she gave birth to a white baby.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
The National Rife Association may win skirmishes in the near future but it WILL LOSE in the long run. Why?

The **point** of this anti-gun zero tolerance is to raise up a nation of Peter Pans ( especially white Peter Pans) who are utterly incapable of defending themselves, their families, the nation, their freedom, and **especially** our Constitution. And...A nation of citizens who will go to the polls and gut the Second Amendment. All it takes is one to two generations.

That is the goal. That is the point.

By the way, am I the only one noticing that young men between the ages of 15 and 30 are acting more and more “swishy”?

25 posted on 09/08/2013 5:50:13 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Mastador1

God never said to leave Him in the church and visit Him one hour a week!

God said carry Him with you wherever you go.

Some did. Some didn’t. But more did back then, and that’s why it was a less-guilty age in many ways. It was cowboys vs Indians (regardless of the complexity of actual cowboys and actual Indians) and not let’s go gang bang a @#$%^&!!


26 posted on 09/08/2013 5:51:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Mastador1

Frankly... I believe in introducing cowboys and Indians to the gospel. Why did they never do cowboys and Indians and missionaries??? (Dull preaching might have had part to do with it. It was either hellfire/brimstone or a cotton candy heaven. Boy if that’s all there was to God, I wouldn’t be able to get away from God fast enough when I got the chance.)


27 posted on 09/08/2013 5:54:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: wintertime

We need a gutsy gospel. One as gutsy as the first century one that sold itself.

Guns are only things that can be used to the good or ill. They are lousy icons as anything else that can be used as an icon is lousy too.

The linchpin of freedom lies elsewhere. Get THAT in line and the gun and drug and “immorality” and murder and boredom and welfare and what-you-name-it... will all fall beautifully into place.

Call me a guy who is trying to get a gutsy gospel going. I hope (and in fact believe) I’m not the only one in this crowd! I couldn’t do it without God behind me and if God is moving with me then God is moving in general.


28 posted on 09/08/2013 6:01:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: workerbee

Looks like Biden’s eating his.


29 posted on 09/08/2013 6:06:28 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama supports Christian murdering Jihadists)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

OK, now I just have a headache, that’s what happens when I fall into someone else’s reality. May the rest of your Sunday be golden.


30 posted on 09/08/2013 6:08:54 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: markomalley

School boards are elected...and folks need to vote out their school boards when they continue to make dumb policies, and hire morons to run their schools

This stuff does not happen when people vote in school board elections. School boards know they can do anything when no one is voting


31 posted on 09/08/2013 6:30:23 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (You cannot be conservative while supporting the bankruptcy of your nation)
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To: Mastador1

Hey when the someone else is the good Lord then reality is worth the headache!

Don’t iconize the cowboys & indians. That wasn’t even the reasonable best of mankind let alone completed heaven. Personally I think cowboys are great. When they serve the Lord. (Same with Indians.) I have two cowboy belt buckles I like to wear, one of them showing a dual scene of a bull rider on a bull and the same cowboy before a cross with a bible. The other one I use on Sunday, showing a cowboy kneeling in worship at the cross with his faithful horse waiting behind him.


32 posted on 09/08/2013 6:35:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: markomalley
Oh, good grief. Everyone knows that particular hand gesture is dangerous only to certain obnoxious street performers...


33 posted on 09/08/2013 6:39:26 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: wintertime
By the way, am I the only one noticing that young men between the ages of 15 and 30 are acting more and more “swishy”?

That's the unsurprising result of male children raised without fathers or significant male role models. The schools are taking advantage of a wounded culture by using policies that will prevent us from back-tracking to a system that worked.

34 posted on 09/08/2013 6:45:28 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I just posted this comment on the WaPo article, off the top of my head. I only posted because it was just reply 12 or so, which means that if it’s “liked” a few times, it will stay at the top and be read by thousands of libtards all night and tomorrow.

>>>Welcome to the USSA, comrades! Start them with the “thought crime” meme early, so they will have zero expectation of outdated values like “freedom” and “liberty.” Beat down their expectations while they are young, and they will make fine little comrades.<<<

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/gun-gesture-leads-to-suspension-for-calvert-sixth-grader/2013/09/08/7c27335c-15b9-11e3-a2ec-b47e45e6f8ef_allComments.html?ctab=all_&wp_login_redirect=0


35 posted on 09/08/2013 7:04:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

The worst thing here is not even the mores, but the thing that is presuming to be the basis of the mores, some kind of nebulous “society.”

It used to be pretty robustly agreed that this basis was God in the Judeo-Christian view, and disagreements about what God wanted were usually about degree or circumstance rather than fundamental. All agreed the bible said this or that, the only thing up for discussion was exactly how it applied.


36 posted on 09/08/2013 7:15:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Fairy wings. He needs little fairy wings.

We sure are getting a lot of mileage out of that ill-advised photo-op.

37 posted on 09/08/2013 7:18:39 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: Charles Martel

And yet, a sweep of gutsy gospel (which being MORE powerful than Satan, not LESS, could easily co-opt media trends) would trump AND correct this... “If my mother and father forsake me, the Lord will take me up.”

If this makes you incredulous, remember the problem isn’t with God. The problem is with people. God has no grudge. People have grudges.


38 posted on 09/08/2013 7:19:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: DoughtyOne

little wings, mind you, not big ones that take over the other perfect elements of the photo. So funny — you did it?


39 posted on 09/08/2013 7:23:27 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: cyn

I don’t know. Don’t you think that’s too manly?

LMAO


40 posted on 09/08/2013 8:20:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: cyn

I found it and couldn’t resist.


41 posted on 09/08/2013 8:21:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I have a better idea.

Get rid of the people’s indoctrination and propaganda commesars. ( misnamed “school boards”)

Solution: Complete separation of school and state.


42 posted on 09/08/2013 8:28:31 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: SeminoleCounty
Here it is again. ( I wish Free Republic would get an edit option.)

I have a better idea.

Get rid of the people’s indoctrination and propaganda commissars. ( misnamed “school boards”)

Solution: Complete separation of school and state.

43 posted on 09/08/2013 8:29:35 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Travis McGee
Hey! Matt

Good looking mustache!

I couldn't hit “like” because I am not logged in as a member.

44 posted on 09/08/2013 8:34:03 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: DoughtyOne

I know — I am, too! Had a lot of fun finding just the right ones :-)


45 posted on 09/08/2013 8:35:53 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: DoughtyOne; TigersEye

I wonder if its one of TigersEye’s, then — he’s done some good ones of that photo.


46 posted on 09/08/2013 8:39:28 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: markomalley

This is one reason conservatism, despite its logic and nearly universal appeal, is fighting for its life against socialists. The socialists sought control of education and by punishing male students for behaving normally, will produce young adults who are afraid of and who hate guns. That is the specific goal, alteration of American culture, starting with the young. It has been the thrust of education ever since I was a young student in science class. The teacher proselytized about Earth Day with passion and angst. That was the beginning of the environmental movement, which is a core part of the socialist movement today.

It is essential that conservatives work to recover quality education for American children.


47 posted on 09/09/2013 5:13:43 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: markomalley

In new America, imaginary guns are considered to be as dangerous as real ones.


48 posted on 09/09/2013 7:45:31 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: markomalley

I guess the lad did not participate in Joe Biden’s Imaginary gun buyback program.

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/biden-launches-new-imaginary-gun-buyback-initiative-t11220.html


49 posted on 09/09/2013 8:03:35 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: cyn

It’s not mine. I don’t do photo-shopping I just post other people’s work.


50 posted on 09/09/2013 8:17:39 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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