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Iowa granting gun permits to the blind
FoxNews ^ | 8 Sep 2013

Posted on 09/09/2013 7:04:52 AM PDT by shove_it

No one could see this coming.

Iowa is giving people who are blind permits that will allow them to purchase guns or to carry firearms in public, the Des Moines Register reports. The permits are legal, as Iowa law does not deny anyone the right to carry a weapon based on physical disability. But, the paper reports, the dilemma comes for law enforcement officials who are trying to ensure public safety.

Advocates for the disabled are split over the decision.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 09/09/2013 7:04:52 AM PDT by shove_it
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To: shove_it

um...


2 posted on 09/09/2013 7:05:43 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: shove_it

“Blind” or “Legally blind”?


3 posted on 09/09/2013 7:07:09 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: shove_it

Blind people can just walk into a store, buy a bicycle or even a moped, and ride/drive off in it.

I haven’t heard any stories about blind moped riders hurting anybody, nor about blind gun owners misusing a firearm.

We have to assume that adult law abiding citizens will use their sense, or we would be compelled to install a nanny state/dictatorship.


4 posted on 09/09/2013 7:09:10 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: shove_it
"Legally blind" doesn't mean absence of sight.

The Social Security administration defines "legally blind" as 20/200 or less.

5 posted on 09/09/2013 7:09:18 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Flintlock

Here’s a link to the Des Moines Register article for more info ...

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20130908/NEWS/309080061/Iowa-grants-permits-for-blind-residents-to-carry-guns-in-public?Frontpage&nclick_check=1


6 posted on 09/09/2013 7:10:51 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bama's America)
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To: shove_it

Reminds me of a WC Fields skit

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y189-69cQPs&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dy189-69cQPs


7 posted on 09/09/2013 7:10:58 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: shove_it

The Blind’s hearing tends to be very accurate, like a bat’s. If I were a criminal, I would be fearful of a blind person with a gun.


8 posted on 09/09/2013 7:11:45 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: shove_it

Being legally blind doesn’t necessarily mean you have total loss of vision. Most blind people are labeled as low-vision.


9 posted on 09/09/2013 7:12:12 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: shove_it

Wasn’t there someplace that made drive-thru food joints have their menus in braille?


10 posted on 09/09/2013 7:14:15 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: shove_it
The blind person can now pack heat when they drive to the nearst ATM where they can use the Braille keypad to get the cash they need.
11 posted on 09/09/2013 7:16:44 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: shove_it

Also a number of people such as myself are legally blind without glasses (driving restriction - count finger only), but with glasses or contacts can see at 20/20 acuity.


12 posted on 09/09/2013 7:17:38 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: shove_it
Did they just seriously use that first line?


13 posted on 09/09/2013 7:23:24 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

This news will give Bloomberg a heart attack.


14 posted on 09/09/2013 7:24:11 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bama's America)
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To: alancarp

That’s putting the punchline first - it’s an attention getter.

;o)


15 posted on 09/09/2013 7:26:08 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bama's America)
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To: shove_it

In some states they have Blind Hunting Day.

Seriously, I’d be more concerned if they gave blind people driver’s licenses.


16 posted on 09/09/2013 7:29:20 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: shove_it

Somebody with some drawing talent needs to make a drawing of a “blind” gunsite.

I envision a revolver with one of those sticks with the colored tips (that are use for walking) duct-taped to it.

I tried to get an artiest friend of mine to do it for me, but he wouldn’t.


17 posted on 09/09/2013 7:48:46 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: shove_it
When was the last time we heard of a blind CCW holder, or any CCW holder for that matter, blasting away at random on Main Street.
That's the image the libs have of gun owners.
Being blind or almost blind does not negate your right to defend yourself against invaders or robbers.

Good people owning guns, regardless of ability, is not a threat to public safety.
Libs, for all their talk of equality, don't really trust regular folks. Why is that?

18 posted on 09/09/2013 7:49:57 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: babygene

How about a Braille Target?


19 posted on 09/09/2013 7:55:09 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: Flintlock
“Blind” or “Legally blind”?

Both.

20 posted on 09/09/2013 8:00:12 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: cotton1706

“The Blind’s hearing tends to be very accurate, like a bat’s. If I were a criminal, I would be fearful of a blind person with a gun.”

First, I am a firearms instructor (NRA pistol) and I have a student who is blind. Just as you said, the students’ hearing is sufficient for her to put a bullet in an attacker by sound.

I tested the students acoustic target location capability in the following manner.
1. I removed the magazine and cleared the barrel, then had the student verify the empty condition of the gun by insertion of a finger into the magazine well and into the barrel chamber with the slide in the locked back position.
2. The magazine was secured outside the room and the student’s statement that no firearm or ammunition was either owned or in the room was verified.
3. I then inserted a Laserlyte acoustic activated laser into the barrel of the Colt Double Eagle, turned it on and tested it by dry firing. The 10 millisecond red dot appeared as advertised.
4. The student was then asked to point the gun at the sound made by my tossing a key ring onto the floor and pull the trigger (single action).
5. Considering the student had never held such a gun before, the red dot from the laser dot appeared remarkably close to where the keys lay on the floor.

Based upon the above I wrote a course for this student which differed from that for a normal student only in:
A. Greater than usual emphasis on familiarization of the hand to grip fit to ensure the gun pointed as the student wanted.
B. Extended range time.

In live fire practice, the student demonstrated an ability to regularly hit Center Of Mass when firing at defense distance.

Conclusion: Mugging the armed blind is trolling for a Darwin Award.


21 posted on 09/09/2013 8:19:12 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: cotton1706
If I were a criminal, I would be fearful of a blind person with a gun.

Yes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cnzuI4fsMs

22 posted on 09/09/2013 8:28:36 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: GladesGuru

Thanks for the post. That’s what I thought. Amazing!!


23 posted on 09/09/2013 8:30:01 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: GladesGuru
Conclusion: Mugging the armed blind is trolling for a Darwin Award.

Wow! No kidding. Thanks for that!

24 posted on 09/09/2013 8:32:27 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: shove_it

Would've evened the odds a little bit . . . just sayin' . . .

25 posted on 09/09/2013 8:44:49 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: shove_it

Last time I saw it, the FBI says that 95% of self-defense gunfights occur at a range of “less than 1 yard.”

This indicates to me that in the majority of self-defense gunfights, the antagonists are probably grappling with each other.

In which case a blind person would not have any trouble finding their target.


26 posted on 09/09/2013 8:44:53 AM PDT by G-Bear (Always leave your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark.)
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To: shove_it
I have known a number of “legally blind” people who can “see” short distances in bright daylight, but are blind at night or at long distances.

A long as such a person, had reasonable training in firearms safety and knew their limits, I would not have a problem with them owning a weapon for self defense.

27 posted on 09/09/2013 8:55:10 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: GladesGuru
Conclusion: Mugging the armed blind is trolling for a Darwin Award.

Outstanding reply.

28 posted on 09/09/2013 9:29:28 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bama's America)
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To: GladesGuru; All

Somebody ping the Bang List Meister


29 posted on 09/09/2013 9:33:37 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bama's America)
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To: shove_it; Joe Brower

Bang


30 posted on 09/09/2013 9:41:17 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bama's America)
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To: shove_it
Iowa granting gun permits to the blind

Oh, sheesh, another 0bama administration foreign policy story?

31 posted on 09/09/2013 9:43:08 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

LOL, even if attacking Syria would normally be a good thing it is way too dangerous to entrust to these lunatics. Given Jimmy Carter’s hammer and nails they’d make coffins and promote them as green housing.


32 posted on 09/09/2013 11:51:28 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: shove_it
Comment from one elected Sheriff:

“If sheriffs spent more time trying to keep guns out of criminals’ hands and not people with disabilities, their time would be more productive,” Wethington told the Register"

I'd like to get this guy to run for Lee Baca's job.

33 posted on 09/09/2013 6:30:01 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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