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Syria positive about giving up chemical weapons
AP ^ | 09/09/2013 | By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV

Posted on 09/09/2013 8:01:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

MOSCOW (AP) — In a surprise move, Russia promised Monday to push its ally Syria to place its chemical weapons under international control and then dismantle them quickly to avert U.S. strikes.

The announcement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov came a few hours after U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said that Syrian President Bashar Assad could resolve the crisis surrounding the alleged use of chemical weapons by his forces by surrendering control of "every single bit" of his arsenal to the international community by the end of the week.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: chemicalweapons; kerrygaffe; obamasyriaattack; putinsyria; rehash; russia; syria; syriachemicalweapons; wmd
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1 posted on 09/09/2013 8:01:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Kerry probably botched the deal by making it an ultimatum.


2 posted on 09/09/2013 8:02:07 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SeekAndFind

Good chess move on Putin’s part.


3 posted on 09/09/2013 8:03:17 AM PDT by Publius (And so, night falls on civilization.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Putin puts Obama in check and has five more moves in mind.

This is painful to watch, but exactly what I expected.


4 posted on 09/09/2013 8:03:50 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Russia is pretty desperate to prevent any action.

A. They don't want to risk Russian SAM systems looking bad
B. They don’t want to lose Assad's business
C. Both A and B

5 posted on 09/09/2013 8:04:07 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: SeekAndFind

If this comes to pass, I hope the chemical weapons they secure say “Made in Iraq-2000”.


6 posted on 09/09/2013 8:04:12 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Publius

Yes, but I was really hoping Obama would be totally disgraced by his mishandling of this situation.


7 posted on 09/09/2013 8:04:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

It does allow Barry out of the box he put himself in...


8 posted on 09/09/2013 8:05:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: SeekAndFind

You think Assad might tell Mad Vlad “nyet!”??

I don’t.


9 posted on 09/09/2013 8:05:51 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Publius

RE: Good chess move on Putin’s part.

I never thought I’d see the day when FReepers would be cheering Putin on over our own President.... but there’s always a first time, I guess.


10 posted on 09/09/2013 8:05:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: skeeter
As long as he has the American press to back him up and refuse to report the truth, he won't be disgraced in this country. The rest of the world sees through him.
11 posted on 09/09/2013 8:06:26 AM PDT by Publius (And so, night falls on civilization.)
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To: Publius

Noble Peace Prize for Putin


12 posted on 09/09/2013 8:08:31 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: exit82

They will probably turn over the old ones that are stock-piled, unusable, and dangerous. It’ll be interesting if Assad “lets” the UN come and get them. Meanwhile, Assad will just get newer and better ones.


13 posted on 09/09/2013 8:08:33 AM PDT by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: Publius

Well played, Mr. Putin.

Checkmate.


14 posted on 09/09/2013 8:09:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why would ANYONE here be cheering on our own president?
15 posted on 09/09/2013 8:10:10 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: 4rcane

RE: Noble Peace Prize for Putin

What about Barry? Will the Nobel Committee take back the prize they preemptively gave him?


16 posted on 09/09/2013 8:10:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Lazamataz

Yeah, our president is playing checkers.


17 posted on 09/09/2013 8:10:21 AM PDT by Publius (And so, night falls on civilization.)
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To: don-o

Not surprised. Putin wants to not only stop Mr. Obama, but protect the Christians in Syria. He knows that if the USA attacks Syria, that could very well topple Assad and bring in AQ into power, destroying what is left of that community.


18 posted on 09/09/2013 8:10:30 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: gr8eman

Good point, and then we will be stuck with the bill for getting rid Assad’s trash.

More money for new weapons that way. The Russians and the Syrians are not dumb, unlike our folks in DC.


19 posted on 09/09/2013 8:10:35 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Russians are playing chess. The Iranians are playing chess. The Chinese are playing Go. 0bama is playing midnight basketball, and not for the team whose uniform he’s wearing.


20 posted on 09/09/2013 8:11:02 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama is my enemy. Putin, on the other hand, has done nothing to me.

Sad, but true.

21 posted on 09/09/2013 8:11:20 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Buckeye McFrog
You think Assad might tell Mad Vlad “nyet!”?? I don’t.

I would expect Putin got this all buttoned up before he opened his mouth - unlike the POSer in the WH.

22 posted on 09/09/2013 8:11:37 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: gr8eman

......And hide them, since Syria DID NOT sign the chemical weapons ban.


23 posted on 09/09/2013 8:12:00 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They will give up some and hide some. It is a game, but in this case I don’t care. I am glad if we can avoid getting drawn any deeper into that mess.


24 posted on 09/09/2013 8:12:14 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

25 posted on 09/09/2013 8:13:23 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Publius

Yes it is a good move.
I bet Assad jumps on it too.
They don’t need chemical weapons for the war they have; the reason for them was as an independent threat against Israel.
Since they are wholly owned by Iran at the moment they aren’t an independent force anyway.
They can afford to dump them for the duration of their current troubles. And they can get them back very quickly afterwards whenever the coast seems clear.


26 posted on 09/09/2013 8:13:30 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: Publius

That is getting harder and harder for the American press though. Even CNN put out a poll that says most Americans are against an attack.


27 posted on 09/09/2013 8:13:32 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SeekAndFind

Asked mod to move to breaking


28 posted on 09/09/2013 8:14:16 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Give up the chemical weapons or that other guy will hold you accountable? Some threat.


29 posted on 09/09/2013 8:14:16 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And just what the heck did we give up to the Russians for this “aid?”


30 posted on 09/09/2013 8:15:12 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: SeekAndFind
Perhaps Syria is receiving weapons more effective than chemical weapons: Russia sends warship with 'special cargo' toward Syria
31 posted on 09/09/2013 8:15:47 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It does allow Barry out of the box he put himself in...

His adoring fans in the media will claim his strategy worked and he can retain his Nobel Peaces Prize after all. O Happy Day.

Somehow I reckon some of those chem weapons have since scattered across the ME and into the clutches of various jihadi terror groups to be revealed later.

32 posted on 09/09/2013 8:16:18 AM PDT by Dysart (Being nuts has its advantages...and the machete doesn't hurt, either.)
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To: SeekAndFind
FReepers would be cheering Putin on over our own President

He's not my President. Doing everything to destroy My Republic, he is treasonous enemy, that somehow by hook and crook, got to occupy the WH.

33 posted on 09/09/2013 8:16:41 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Russians back Obama farther into a corner.
34 posted on 09/09/2013 8:17:37 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: don-o

“Putin puts Obama in check and has five more moves in mind.

This is painful to watch, but exactly what I expected.”

Considering the Obama Admin is working to overthrow Al-Assad and replace him with a West friendly, Iran foe, this is just a major fubar for them.

Now Putin has completely thrown it off.


35 posted on 09/09/2013 8:17:53 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: don-o

Previous thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3064461/posts


36 posted on 09/09/2013 8:18:05 AM PDT by maggief
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To: OpusatFR
And just what the heck did we give up to the Russians for this “aid?”

What makes you think that "we" had anything at all to do with this? POSer got blindsided.

37 posted on 09/09/2013 8:18:07 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just Damn ... that was the idea I’d been kicking around since the start when the State Dept equivocated on who the evidence showed made the attack. Now I kick myself for not posting it right away.

The gist of the idea was ... Obama makes a speech saying, “we have proof that chemical weapons were indiscriminately used in Syria against civilians, a crime against humanity. We have further proof that these were launched from Syrian controlled areas and have high confidence these were Assad’s weapons. Whether or not the orders were given by him, they were his weapons, the control of which is incumbent upon him. As a result of crossing this internationally-recognized red line, Assad has forfeited his right to possess such weapons of mass destruction.”

“Now, therefore I, Barack Obama, hereby call upon President Putin, who has a close relationship with the Syrians, to take custody of these weapons immediately and to work with the international community through the UN Security Council to remove them from the area of conflict and see to their destruction. We have the motion ready to bring to the Security Council.”

“If the weapons are not surrendered within a fortnight, the United States will commence a series of limited strikes upon the leadership of Syria until these WMDs are surrendered.”

Just imagine, Obama would have called Putin out BEFORE the G20 meeting and would have gained mucho leadership respect.


38 posted on 09/09/2013 8:19:18 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Henceforth, the Office of the President shall be known as IMPOTUS)
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To: don-o

The way this gang has no clue as to what each department is doing, I wonder.

It’s a leaderless mess.


39 posted on 09/09/2013 8:19:55 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Biggirl

When the American press starts covering all the scandals, then the worm has turned.


40 posted on 09/09/2013 8:20:04 AM PDT by Publius (And so, night falls on civilization.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And even more of the ground gets cut away from beneath our very own Current Occupant of the White Hut.

At no time did al-Assad HAVE to use chemical weapons. And in fact, there is no firm incontrovertible evidence that the use of chemical weapons was either authorized or actually delivered by government troops.

But as a “false-flag” attack carried out by insurgents posing as Government troops, it seems to justify action because a “red line” was crossed. Then, because of rash statements by our Fearless Leader, the whole of the United States seems to be boxed in, COMPELLED, to launch a unilateral attack against Syria, with whom we are not now at war.

Or we could impeach the SOB for not representing the interests of the United States.


41 posted on 09/09/2013 8:20:17 AM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: maggief

Gee. I just walked in - nothing in Breaking News, which is where I would have posted. This is truly hugh and series. Da?

Thanks for link to other thread


42 posted on 09/09/2013 8:20:47 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: exit82

Secured by whom? Chemical weapons have source signatures. If Russia or the UN get them then we will never know. The US has to be part of the validation and verification process.


43 posted on 09/09/2013 8:21:21 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: SeekAndFind

And what about chemical weapons held by the rebels — will they also be destroyed?

Rots of ruck.


44 posted on 09/09/2013 8:25:05 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I never thought I’d see the day when FReepers would be cheering Putin on over our own President.... but there’s always a first time, I guess.

Is that you, Chris?


45 posted on 09/09/2013 8:25:20 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Putin shows he is a contender.

The Clown is a pretender.


46 posted on 09/09/2013 8:27:36 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

What would be hilarious is if Syria turns over the weapons and then inspectors realize all the markings etc. are Iraqi.


47 posted on 09/09/2013 8:29:10 AM PDT by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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To: buwaya

The question has been asked, “Why is it OK to kill 99,000 people with bombs and guns but start a war over 1,400 deaths by chemicals?”
So Assad hands over the chemical weapons and continues on fighting the rebels. I guess the rebels get to keep the chemical weapons they have?


48 posted on 09/09/2013 8:29:52 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Publius
Good chess move on Putin’s part.

Only if Putin is playing for a stalemate as opposed to a riskier win.

If Assad agrees to this, Putin looks good. He's a peacemaker who has averted a war.

But Obama also looks good. Obama can claim that his threats have forced Assad to surrender control of his WMD's.

Of course, Assad remains untouched. But Obama is so boxed in now that he'll happily take whatever face-saving out that he can get.

49 posted on 09/09/2013 8:30:14 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: OpusatFR
Considering the Obama Admin is working to overthrow Al-Assad and replace him with a West friendly, Iran foe, this is just a major fubar for them.

Where ever did you get that idea?

50 posted on 09/09/2013 8:30:14 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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