Skip to comments.Syria positive about giving up chemical weapons
Posted on 09/09/2013 8:01:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
MOSCOW (AP) In a surprise move, Russia promised Monday to push its ally Syria to place its chemical weapons under international control and then dismantle them quickly to avert U.S. strikes.
The announcement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov came a few hours after U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said that Syrian President Bashar Assad could resolve the crisis surrounding the alleged use of chemical weapons by his forces by surrendering control of "every single bit" of his arsenal to the international community by the end of the week.
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Kerry probably botched the deal by making it an ultimatum.
Good chess move on Putin’s part.
Putin puts Obama in check and has five more moves in mind.
This is painful to watch, but exactly what I expected.
A. They don't want to risk Russian SAM systems looking bad
B. They don’t want to lose Assad's business
C. Both A and B
If this comes to pass, I hope the chemical weapons they secure say “Made in Iraq-2000”.
Yes, but I was really hoping Obama would be totally disgraced by his mishandling of this situation.
It does allow Barry out of the box he put himself in...
You think Assad might tell Mad Vlad “nyet!”??
RE: Good chess move on Putins part.
I never thought I’d see the day when FReepers would be cheering Putin on over our own President.... but there’s always a first time, I guess.
Noble Peace Prize for Putin
They will probably turn over the old ones that are stock-piled, unusable, and dangerous. It’ll be interesting if Assad “lets” the UN come and get them. Meanwhile, Assad will just get newer and better ones.
Well played, Mr. Putin.
RE: Noble Peace Prize for Putin
What about Barry? Will the Nobel Committee take back the prize they preemptively gave him?
Yeah, our president is playing checkers.
Not surprised. Putin wants to not only stop Mr. Obama, but protect the Christians in Syria. He knows that if the USA attacks Syria, that could very well topple Assad and bring in AQ into power, destroying what is left of that community.
Good point, and then we will be stuck with the bill for getting rid Assad’s trash.
More money for new weapons that way. The Russians and the Syrians are not dumb, unlike our folks in DC.
The Russians are playing chess. The Iranians are playing chess. The Chinese are playing Go. 0bama is playing midnight basketball, and not for the team whose uniform he’s wearing.
Sad, but true.
I would expect Putin got this all buttoned up before he opened his mouth - unlike the POSer in the WH.
......And hide them, since Syria DID NOT sign the chemical weapons ban.
They will give up some and hide some. It is a game, but in this case I don’t care. I am glad if we can avoid getting drawn any deeper into that mess.
Yes it is a good move.
I bet Assad jumps on it too.
They don’t need chemical weapons for the war they have; the reason for them was as an independent threat against Israel.
Since they are wholly owned by Iran at the moment they aren’t an independent force anyway.
They can afford to dump them for the duration of their current troubles. And they can get them back very quickly afterwards whenever the coast seems clear.
That is getting harder and harder for the American press though. Even CNN put out a poll that says most Americans are against an attack.
Asked mod to move to breaking
Give up the chemical weapons or that other guy will hold you accountable? Some threat.
And just what the heck did we give up to the Russians for this “aid?”
His adoring fans in the media will claim his strategy worked and he can retain his Nobel Peaces Prize after all. O Happy Day.
Somehow I reckon some of those chem weapons have since scattered across the ME and into the clutches of various jihadi terror groups to be revealed later.
He's not my President. Doing everything to destroy My Republic, he is treasonous enemy, that somehow by hook and crook, got to occupy the WH.
“Putin puts Obama in check and has five more moves in mind.
This is painful to watch, but exactly what I expected.”
Considering the Obama Admin is working to overthrow Al-Assad and replace him with a West friendly, Iran foe, this is just a major fubar for them.
Now Putin has completely thrown it off.
What makes you think that "we" had anything at all to do with this? POSer got blindsided.
Just Damn ... that was the idea I’d been kicking around since the start when the State Dept equivocated on who the evidence showed made the attack. Now I kick myself for not posting it right away.
The gist of the idea was ... Obama makes a speech saying, “we have proof that chemical weapons were indiscriminately used in Syria against civilians, a crime against humanity. We have further proof that these were launched from Syrian controlled areas and have high confidence these were Assad’s weapons. Whether or not the orders were given by him, they were his weapons, the control of which is incumbent upon him. As a result of crossing this internationally-recognized red line, Assad has forfeited his right to possess such weapons of mass destruction.”
“Now, therefore I, Barack Obama, hereby call upon President Putin, who has a close relationship with the Syrians, to take custody of these weapons immediately and to work with the international community through the UN Security Council to remove them from the area of conflict and see to their destruction. We have the motion ready to bring to the Security Council.”
“If the weapons are not surrendered within a fortnight, the United States will commence a series of limited strikes upon the leadership of Syria until these WMDs are surrendered.”
Just imagine, Obama would have called Putin out BEFORE the G20 meeting and would have gained mucho leadership respect.
The way this gang has no clue as to what each department is doing, I wonder.
It’s a leaderless mess.
When the American press starts covering all the scandals, then the worm has turned.
And even more of the ground gets cut away from beneath our very own Current Occupant of the White Hut.
At no time did al-Assad HAVE to use chemical weapons. And in fact, there is no firm incontrovertible evidence that the use of chemical weapons was either authorized or actually delivered by government troops.
But as a “false-flag” attack carried out by insurgents posing as Government troops, it seems to justify action because a “red line” was crossed. Then, because of rash statements by our Fearless Leader, the whole of the United States seems to be boxed in, COMPELLED, to launch a unilateral attack against Syria, with whom we are not now at war.
Or we could impeach the SOB for not representing the interests of the United States.
Gee. I just walked in - nothing in Breaking News, which is where I would have posted. This is truly hugh and series. Da?
Thanks for link to other thread
Secured by whom? Chemical weapons have source signatures. If Russia or the UN get them then we will never know. The US has to be part of the validation and verification process.
And what about chemical weapons held by the rebels — will they also be destroyed?
Rots of ruck.
Is that you, Chris?
Putin shows he is a contender.
The Clown is a pretender.
What would be hilarious is if Syria turns over the weapons and then inspectors realize all the markings etc. are Iraqi.
The question has been asked, “Why is it OK to kill 99,000 people with bombs and guns but start a war over 1,400 deaths by chemicals?”
So Assad hands over the chemical weapons and continues on fighting the rebels. I guess the rebels get to keep the chemical weapons they have?
Only if Putin is playing for a stalemate as opposed to a riskier win.
If Assad agrees to this, Putin looks good. He's a peacemaker who has averted a war.
But Obama also looks good. Obama can claim that his threats have forced Assad to surrender control of his WMD's.
Of course, Assad remains untouched. But Obama is so boxed in now that he'll happily take whatever face-saving out that he can get.
Where ever did you get that idea?