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Vegetable oil prices rest on EU biofuel vote
Food Navigator ^ | 09/09/13 | Annie-Rose Harrison-Dunn

Posted on 09/09/2013 8:30:20 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX

The more vegetable oil used for biofuel production, the less there is for food use. The report lays out forecast consequences for three proposed EU restrictions on the use of crop-based fuels.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: biofuel; environmentalists; ethanol; food
Using food to fuel machines is one of the dumbest ideas in the history of dumb ideas.
1 posted on 09/09/2013 8:30:20 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

Spain, Italy, and Greece are going to love the big spike in Olive Oil prices.


2 posted on 09/09/2013 8:33:50 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Pining_4_TX

Dumb idea, PERIOD.


3 posted on 09/09/2013 8:34:13 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Butter is better for you, anyway.


4 posted on 09/09/2013 8:34:45 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Burning our food, part XXIV.


5 posted on 09/09/2013 8:37:19 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Using food to fuel machines is one of the dumbest ideas in the history of dumb ideas.

That's true. And using vegetable oil to fuel human bodies is another.

Our government is a wholly-owned subsidiary of big business.
6 posted on 09/09/2013 8:38:18 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool
And using vegetable oil to fuel human bodies is another.

Bingo. Cold pressed vegetable oils are ok, in moderation, but the healthiest fats are animal fats. Canola oil is, however, decent at lubricating hinges.
7 posted on 09/09/2013 8:52:42 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (never again: done with the Establishment Republicans forever)
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To: LearsFool

People in poor countries depend on vegetable oils. They have few other sources of fat, which is good for you no matter what the food police say.


8 posted on 09/09/2013 8:57:09 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I am seeing a bumper corn crop growing in the corn belt, but almost half of the crop will go into the ethanol boondoggle. Just look at beef prices to see the result of diverting food into ethanol. Hamburger in my stores is selling for almost what steak was a few years ago.


9 posted on 09/09/2013 9:00:20 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Pining_4_TX

It’s staple for the poor, rice, beans, vegetable oil etc are always in the care packages after a third-world disaster.


10 posted on 09/09/2013 9:00:38 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: The Great RJ

Yes, and our haughty rulers in DC and the UN don’t give a rat’s butt. They will always eat well. Gruel for us and the good food for them. Just ask Michelle.


11 posted on 09/09/2013 9:06:54 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“Renewable” energy sources, such as biofuels, are only ever going to be a niche market, as a way to dispose of waste vegetable or animal source fats from deep-fat cookers, that is no longer suitable for consumption as human or even livestock feed. To divert the freshly produced oilseed crops into fuel use is a poor allocation of resources.

The same goes for producing ethanol from food crops. Only where there is a HUGE surplus of crop, depressing the overall market, should ethanol be an alternative product of processing of the crop.

And that only as whiskey.

If industrial quantities of ethanol are necessary for any purpose, than taking the fraction of natural gas, known as “ethene” or “ethylene”, and combining, in the presence of a catalyst with water, then a very pure form of ethanol is produced WITHOUT using biological process.

C2H4 + H2O —> C2H5OH

FAR less expensive in terms of production costs and impact on the environment.


12 posted on 09/09/2013 9:09:31 AM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Didn’t even buy corn this year.


13 posted on 09/09/2013 9:09:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: alloysteel

Please don’t confuse the environmental zealots with science. You’re challenging their religion.


14 posted on 09/09/2013 9:12:16 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX
People in poor countries depend on vegetable oils. They have few other sources of fat, which is good for you no matter what the food police say.

Yes, fat is indeed good for you. Kinda makes you wonder where people in poor countries got their dietary fat before they became dependent on American industrial farming. Perhaps there are natural sources of wholesome fat, instead of this invented "vegetable oil" junk that's polluting the food supply.

(When Hillary Clinton said, "Food should not be used as a weapon," that should've been our first clue that food was being used as a weapon.)
15 posted on 09/09/2013 9:19:35 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Arthur McGowan

Try stir-frying in a wok with butter.


16 posted on 09/09/2013 9:22:17 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: GeronL
It’s staple for the poor, rice, beans, vegetable oil etc are always in the care packages after a third-world disaster.

Completing the destruction begun by the "Green Revolution", I suppose.
17 posted on 09/09/2013 9:23:13 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

The eco-nuts stay up at night with the horrible thoughts that the third world might start making more than $2 a day


18 posted on 09/09/2013 9:25:02 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: LearsFool

It depends on location. Cold pressed oils (peanut oil, coconut oil, olive oil) have been around forever, but the type would obviously depend on location. These are healthy oils (although peanut oil may cause problems), and for poor people without even healthier alternatives (think lard, butter, tallow, goose fat, etc.), these can suffice.


19 posted on 09/09/2013 9:27:33 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (never again: done with the Establishment Republicans forever)
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Yes indeed. Tropical oils (i.e. coconut, palm) are primarily from poorer regions. Yet American industry has for decades used “aid” to undermine customary diets and self-reliant food supply in these parts of the world.

Better to let these communities consume the healthy food they themselves produce than to get them hooked on the same crap Western nations are. (”But where’s the profit in that?”)


20 posted on 09/09/2013 9:35:48 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: GeronL
The eco-nuts stay up at night with the horrible thoughts that the third world might start making more than $2 a day

That's why we're making sure they spend $1.95 of it on American stuff instead of producing and consuming their own.

We've seen to it that their economies can never develop. They're dependent on us - and always will be, if we have our way.
21 posted on 09/09/2013 9:47:30 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I didn’t say butter is better for frying or stir-frying. I said it’s better for YOU.


22 posted on 09/09/2013 9:58:43 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Pining_4_TX

It makes perfect sense:

An ingenious way for the Commissars to burn the crops, without appearing to be burning the crops, to starve the peasants and other Useless Eaters of the World Workers Paradise.


23 posted on 09/09/2013 11:02:26 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I believe the purpose “food for fuel” is so that when shortages of food or fuel get critical it will give governments an excuse to further curtail individual freedom. I believe big government wants to control where we as individuals live and keep us bound in the neighborhood, city and state of governments choice for governments convience.


24 posted on 09/09/2013 12:01:47 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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