Posted on 09/09/2013 5:30:55 PM PDT by Kaslin
Poll workers in Colorado have been seeing what they call "fishy" behavior from college students dropping off backpacks full of ballots ahead of Tuesday's recall election. Revealing Politics has the video:
Recall Transparency Project - Turning in tens of ballots at a time
Meanwhile, liberals in the state and against the recall, are acting as respectfully as you might expect. More from Kelly Maher:
The morning of the first day of recall voting in the John Morse recall election in Colorado Springs, CO one of our livestream cameras got video of two guys taking pro-recall yard signs. It’s important to note that these signs were outside the 100 ft. electioneering prohibition zones that are set up around the entrance of every voting location.
Revealing Politics Recall Transparency - Sign Removal
Last year, efforts were made in Colorado to strengthen voter identification laws. Those efforts were unsuccessful.
Colorado's Republican legislators, with backing from Republican Secretary of State Scott Gessler, unsuccessfully attempted to tighten the state's voter identification laws last year by requiring a photo ID to vote.UPDATE: I was able to get in touch with Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler who said although people can drop off ten ballots at a time legally, the legislature has denied him and election officials the tools they need to verify fraud isn't taking place. Tools needed range from requiring photo identification to verification of residency.
Last month, Gessler announced he sent out letters to about 300 more registered voters asking them to prove their citizenship.
Gessler has also continued to stump for new voter fraud measures in Colorado, saying that in states that have implemented photo-ID laws, fears of voter suppression have not materialized. Opponents of such laws say they unfairly affect minority voters.
Imagine if someone in a tea party shirt showed up and dropped off a backpack full of ballots. Every newspaper in the country would run it on the front page.
Possible Voter Fraud? It sure wasn’t unexpected.
Who would have thought the DemonRATs would use vote fraud?
I remain completely unsurprised.
I would have been surprised if there were no reports of vote fraud from the commies.
This election has not been like any I can remember in recent history.. Not surprised if it’s being cooked.
You mean anti-Constitutionalists are cheating.........why is anyone surprised
In Colorado since the passage of HB 1303 - voter fraud is now legal! Democrat mischief in the capitol leads to fraudulent elections. Sen. Morse is an evil schemer who has done much to bring fraud, tyranny and corruption to Colorado. If the election is fair he will be handed his head, but that is a big IF.
Possible voter fraud? If there are Democrats involved, then there’s voter fraud. Count on it.
The ballots delivered in this manner should be pitched in the
dumpster.
Student voters should be allowed to vote in their parents district.
So it appears that the recall election will be for nought.
The new Soviet style elections will be in full force before the 2014 midterms. The end of the Republic.
Voter fraund? No.
Extra credit? Yes!
Welcome to the Third World
Surely the left would never pad the vote. That would be dishonest. They would never cheat. Were the people delivering the backpacks full of ballots even students. How would anyone know if they were students or who filled out the ballots. Asking for ID would be racist, homophobic, just downright mean, and Un-American
The idiot slaves in the Republican party let it happen and never do anything about.
So why do they get concerned when I don't vote for them anymore?
I'm one of those "missing white voters" having left the party since 2002.
If they can't be bothered to combat obvious fraud, then why should I be bothered to vote for them?
Who is stupid enough to keep sending them any money?
Don't count them.
Find them after the election in someones closet, or a dumpster, maybe a hookah lounge....
"By any means necessary!!"
Really, bro? You want to go there?
Dry run for the 2014 midterm elections.
“...students dropping off backpacks full of ballots...”
Psychotic, adolescent, hateful, useful-idiot punks.
IMHO
-PJ
The first major election that a voter of 18 could participate in was in November 1972. I was 18 then, but too busy going through military training to concern myself with voting.
At the time, and for several years afterward, I thought it a good idea to lower the voting age to 18. I now realize it was one of the worse mistakes in U.S. political history. I wished it were possible to raise the voting age to 21 again.
It would eliminate two groups of voters I would like to silence until they grow up. First the young liberals that vote for Obama, et. al. Next the young libertarians that vote for Ron Paul (Rand Paul), et. al.
If someone is still naïve/stupid (and liberal or libertarian) when they are older, then I can live with it. However, I am tired of college students having too much say in who leads. My only regret about raising the age would be that it would cut off young people serving in the military.
PING!
These idiots are pushing us closer and closer to point where there’s only one proper response left for us to give.
The democrats, from obama on down, will be pulling out all the stops for this election.
There is voter fraud galore.
And, when a conservative activist easily proves that the newly enacted (by Hickenlooper, Giron, and Morse) voting laws create the perfect environment for voter fraud...rather than admitting the fact and acting to preserve and protect the democratic process, Hickenlooper threatens the person who exposed the corruption with legal action.
The results of this recall, really, will foretell this nation's fate in 2016 and forever more.
Do elections even matter anymore, or have the progressives succeeded in destroying the democratic process?
Thanks Kaslin. If the recall fails, next step is a recall of the entire legislature and all local elected officials. And remember, when there’s no more recourse to law, all that’s left is recourse to lawlessness. That’s why we need Voter ID and to rid our society of so-called entitlements and quotas.
> Student voters should be allowed to vote in their parents district.
They do.
Then they vote again in their college district.
Until we get real about voter fraud we will have the same type of results as we did when Obama won.
“These idiots are pushing us closer and closer...”
Thomas Jefferson’s quote about the tree of liberty always seemed to be something that was said in a distant past, which had only historical meaning.
Nowadays, in the face of a tyranny quickly coming into full bloom, it is no longer historical, but taking on the meaning for which it was fully intended.
We certainly live in interesting times.
IMHO
Voter ID is a good idea, but it's not the entire answer to election fraud and cheating by the left.
For those of us interested on securing fairer and more honest elections, more attention to technological issues regarding electronic voting equipment like optical scanners and touch screens is absolutely necessary.
I seem to remember Colorado was going to mail in ballots completely. I expect the dropped off ballots are sealed in individual envelopes with voter information also in that envelope. I read on this thread an official there said it is legal to deliver up to 10 ballots. These would be completed by individual voters with their voter info. also in the envelope so that one person can't just fill out many ballots. There aren't ballots sitting on a street corner to pick up and complete them and dump at a polling place.
Those ballots won't be automatically counted immediately - they would first be matched up to the voter info. in the envelope and compared to the official voter list to see if that person is a registered voter and if he/she has already sent in another ballot.
If I remember right and all ballots are voted that way, there are no voting machines used at polling places as the ballots have already been voted. These ballots that are already voted and been checked, are likely optical scanned at the designated counting polls in a county or they are collected at polls and taken to a central counting station in that county to be counted by optical scan.
No electronic voting machine or optical scanner is connected to the internet - they are dumb machines that count and that's all they can do.
In a county, voting machines and optical scanners are checked for accuracy by both parties before they are put in service. This is done at a meeting of the director of elections and the chairman of both parties. Ballots are fed in each machine to see if the count is correct.
I read last November some guys said they changed voting machines. That happened because the machines were put in a hall way open to anyone who passed by so they messed with the machines. There are laws in every state as to how these machines, voting or scanners, must be protected. They are supposed to stay in a locked location until delivered to each polling place. In Texas law, there are two keys to the room(s) where they are and one key is held by the election administrator and the sheriff has the other key. On election day, the sheriff deputies deliver the machines to the individual polling places. They are then checked again for accuracy by the election judge and alternate judge. The election judge is of one party and the alternate judge is of the other party.
The people who believe these machines are “crooked” should concern themselves with the security of the machines before they are delivered to polling places. They can request the plan for security of machines from the election administrator and they can go to where the machines are locked up to see that it IS locked and that the machines are not out in the open for anyone to screw with them.
“Student voters should be allowed to vote in their parents district.”
In Texas, college students may register to vote where their college is IF they live there, or they may vote an absentee ballot at the home where they lived before living at the college.
A bunch of federal laws were passed after the fiasco in Florida between Bush/Gore in order to make voting more similar between the states. One of those laws was, the secretary of state would hold the master voting list of the state. Each county/parish had their own list and there was no collective state list. These days, when one registers to vote, that info. is sent to the secretary of state to be added to the state list. The state will know if a college student has registered at home AND at college and they can stop that.
Many people think people just vote and that’s that - they don’t understand there are laws to follow to hold an election and for a person to vote.
> In Texas, college students may register to vote where their
> college is IF they live there, or they may vote an absentee
> ballot at the home where they lived before living at the
> college.
Yes, and many of them vote in BOTH places.
It’s the same here in NH. There were students BOASTING about it and NOTHING WAS DONE!
Nowadays, in the face of a tyranny quickly coming into full bloom, it is no longer historical, but taking on the meaning for which it was fully intended.
Excising the cancer will serve the purpose of feeding and watering the tree of liberty.
Double registration / voter fraud as a student means ineligible for ANY student loans and it can not be used to argue hardship discharge in bankruptcy.
Not in this recall election.
There's a lot of activity taking place at polling locations:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3064969/posts
But what if the student's college address and home address are in different states? That might be a violation of federal law prohibiting a voter from voting in more than one state in an election. But hardly ever is the law enforced and the culprit prosecuted, convicted, and punished for this type of crime.
The cheaters are more than willing to take this minimal risk for their cause. The honest citizens suffer because the integrity of the election process is compromised by these students and the candidates they support.
In almost any endeavor, paying close attention to details will pay dividends.
For evidence of this wise advice, one need only see the recent success of Marilyn Marks and how her attention to the details of the Colorado Constitution singlehandedly reset two high profile recall elections and may possibly impact the outcomes.
a new law passed by the state legislature mandates that all elections use mail-in ballots. Judge McGahey ruled that the constitution rightly takes precedence.
Marilyn Marks feels that mail-in ballots can lead to various problems, including voter intimidation and fraud. Her criticisms were ignored when the legislature went ahead and made mail-in ballots the law of the land.
But this week, with Judge McGahey’s ruling, Ms. Marks won her revenge.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3055479/posts
That's equivalent to all voters must vote by absentee ballot, or, in other words, no more voting at the polling precinct. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I believe it's the system that Washington State and Oregon have been using for quite some time. That system is surely prone to what is usually called ABSENTEE BALLOT FRAUD, which could be done by several types of schemes, such as operatives voting for mentally incompetent voters, registered voters who aren't likely to show up, or folks on the voting rolls who are dead or have moved outside the precinct. In addition, real voters could be bribed or intimidated by powerful local machines and told what candidates to vote for. All these tainted ballots could be mailed in or presented in person by the crafty operative. The whole idea of political hacks delivering as many as ten absentee ballots at a time to the election board for counting doesn't pass the smell test for integrity.
Cases of extensive local absentee ballot fraud have been prosecuted occasionally by the federal Justice Dept., but no one should hold their breath waiting for the current Administration to involve themselves in such cases if the cheaters are working to help leftist candidates and causes.
So Colorado is very fortunate to have its mail-in voting law overturned by a judge.
> Double registration / voter fraud as a student means ineligible for ANY
> student loans and it can not be used to argue hardship discharge in
> bankruptcy.
I’d like to believe that, but as far as I can tell, NOTHING is being done about it. The punks do it in every election.
In NH, one state legislator has adult children living in other states who voted up here, probably as well as in their current states of residence. This was exposed, but because she’s a DemonRAT, nothing is being done about it.
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