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We are so screwed. This may be the dumbest move by a Secretary of State in US history, and we will still be paying for it years down the road.
1 posted on 09/09/2013 8:46:39 PM PDT by Hoodat
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To: penelopesire

ping. This guy nails it. We are back to where we were dealing with Saddam post-9/11.


2 posted on 09/09/2013 8:47:54 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat
The Charlie Rose interview of President Assad was something else.

Rose is an imbecile. Assad, on the other hand, actually made sense.

3 posted on 09/09/2013 8:49:12 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: Hoodat
Are they just so full of themselves that they think they can say whatever they want and don’t have to discipline their speech to hew to an actual policy?

They have near total control of the US media and they know they will get cover.

4 posted on 09/09/2013 8:51:51 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Hoodat

John F Kerry, employee of the month


5 posted on 09/09/2013 8:52:02 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Hoodat

It’s okay, obviously God had a hand in it, and caused the pompous moron to utter that statement. Millions of prayers were answered and WWIII postponed for a little longer. Make the most of it...


6 posted on 09/09/2013 8:54:44 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Hoodat
>"what a three-ring circus."

That's the point, to distract from the Hussein / Morsi Egyptian Terrorist Trials!

12 posted on 09/09/2013 9:06:24 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Hoodat
ad hoc foreign policy?
Make it up as you go.
problem is, Putin is playing chess, Obama does not even know how to play checkers and thinks he is playing 3D Chess . You are correct this country's prestige is down the toilet.
15 posted on 09/09/2013 9:09:40 PM PDT by Tupelo (There are no Republicans or Democrats in Washington. Just Millionaires protecting their turf.)
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To: Hoodat
This administration has no idea what "policy" is...or how it should be made.

With them, everything is impromptu, off-the-cuff, make it up as you go along.

These are not serious people. And that's gong to make for a long -- and dangerous -- 44 months to go.

17 posted on 09/09/2013 9:13:50 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Hoodat

I could picture international inspectors over there verifying this while getting their asses blown off. LOL


21 posted on 09/09/2013 9:23:48 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Hoodat

The government is used to being able to lie without consequence or detection by the masses. Now that social media has flattened the practice of news reporting, destroying the government-media information monopoly, they have no protocols for dealing with getting caught lying, and what we are witnessing here is the result.

In any previous age, the people would have submissively gone along with the program, they’d believe whatever the TV told them, and they’d have no access to information that went counter to the official narrative.

It begs one to wonder which events in the past have also been false, through and through - besides the many that we already know about.


22 posted on 09/09/2013 9:27:59 PM PDT by thoughtomator 2.0
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To: Hoodat
This looks like a win-win for all the players all away around except for Saudi Arabia and its proxies fighting against Iran's proxies in Syria.

Under the terms of such a deal Assad would relinquish chemical weapons which are of marginal utility militarily and of distinct liability in terms of triggering an international reaction which causes Western powers to bring down the Assad regime. In return for this, Asad buys months and months of time to negotiate the terms of the deal and to submit to the complicated on the ground inspection necessary to verify the deal. If the German intelligence intercepts to the effect that the poison gas was used by rogue elements of the Assad forces are accurate, it is clear that Asad might not actually be able to account for or deliver all such weapons. In any event the process of verification will be difficult and protracted which time the Russians will exploit.

Meanwhile, Russia will gain diplomatic prestige and, more importantly, cover to expand its naval and military presence in the Levant. It will undoubtedly vastly increase its weapons supplied to Asad which he will use to prosecute his civil war. It is probable that the Russians will become more involved in aiding Assad beyond merely supplying weapons, although they will undoubtedly now supply more sophisticated weapons, and they will probably supply technicians etc.

To the degree that the United States had as its policy the destruction of the Assad regime, that policy has been markedly sent back. Obama will be happy, however, because he has been extricated from a self-inflicted humiliation and will crow about removing weapons of mass destruction from Syria and making the world safer etc. If the United States intends to supply weapons to the rebels that will be made far more dangerous by the increased presence of the Russians. Expect the Russians to flex naval muscles in the Mediterranean basin which makes the world a far more dangerous place, not safer as Obama will claim.

The Russia-Iran-Syria axis will have been strengthened and the Saudis will feel even more isolated and threatened because the precedent has been established that Russia will protect its client states against American threats of bombing and can now do so to protect Iran. Expect that to come in good time. Therefore, although Obama himself will be pleased with this deal, the national interests of the United States have been tragically sent back.

Iran is now to be protected by the Russian nuclear umbrella in its quest for the atomic bomb and there is virtually no chance now of denying Iran the bomb.This represents one of the greatest strategic disasters for the United States since the fall of the Soviet Union.

Recently Israel has been attempting a diplomatic opening with Russia and that might come in handy now that Russia's military will be expanding quite literally on Israel's doorstep.

The long-term consequences of Russia's intrusions into the Middle East cauldron severely reduce both American leverage and Israeli security, while increasing prospects for continuing terrorism and nuclear proliferation.

The irony of all of this is that Obama will come out smelling like a rose.


23 posted on 09/09/2013 9:30:20 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Hoodat

Maybe they can pull Hans Blix out of retirement to do the inspections?


27 posted on 09/09/2013 9:51:53 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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31 posted on 09/09/2013 9:58:31 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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32 posted on 09/09/2013 10:05:23 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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Kerry is such a DOLT!!! He is in (nearly) the same class as Biden, and these people control the fate of a Nation.... I guess you elect idiots you get an unlimited amount of idiots appointed to offices. Come to think of it, this is DOLT #2 in charge of DoS under this regime.


35 posted on 09/09/2013 10:23:13 PM PDT by thegrump
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To: Hoodat

It’s a dumb move if getting rid of the nerve-gas danger is the objective. Weaseling out of the “red line” boast is more important, so this fig leaf will do.


37 posted on 09/09/2013 10:27:20 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Uncle Miltie: Obama poisoned race relations for a generation. Everything is racial now.)
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To: Hoodat

We’re All Bozos on this Bus


38 posted on 09/09/2013 11:45:55 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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