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[Rand] Paul Hosts Secret Anti-War Meeting
National Review ^ | 9/10/2013

Posted on 09/10/2013 6:04:52 AM PDT by markomalley

In a secret meeting on Tuesday morning, Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) hosted a bipartisan group of senators and House members in the Capitol’s basement. According to several participants, the lawmakers plotted ways to stop the use of U.S. military force in Syria.

Since the diplomatic situation is fluid, there was no final consensus on how best to combat the administration, but potential legislative maneuvers, press appearances, and letters were discussed. Several undecided members asked questions.

Aides say Paul planned the gathering over a week ago, and the list of attendees grew by the day. He is pleased, especially, by the number of Democrats who are eager to work with him to kill the war resolution. Representatives Alan Grayson (D., Fla.) and Tulsi Gabbard (D., Hawaii), among other liberals, spoke.

The meeting, which started at 8:00 a.m., lasted for an hour. It was a conversational setting, with members sitting and talking through the issue, rather than giving speeches. Coffee was provided, but most of the guests brought their own cups.


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Agreed on not sending US troops to support Obama's Al Qaida strategy. But, man, that's a motley crew he's hanging with...
1 posted on 09/10/2013 6:04:52 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

How is it secret, if everyone knows about it.


2 posted on 09/10/2013 6:06:18 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: markomalley
but man, that's a motley crew he's hanging with

The far left and the far right have always spoken their minds. What we have in common is we aren't bought and paid for. The best thing that can happen now is we get together and get the sellouts in the middle out of office and defeat their schemes.

The progressive ship has sailed away from Obama Island. People say it's this situation; I contend they'd already had it with Snowden being labelled a traitor. So, let's get together and make new friends for now and fight the honest fight between conservative and liberal ideologies when and if the US can be saved.

3 posted on 09/10/2013 6:11:17 AM PDT by grania
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To: markomalley
RE :”Aides say Paul planned the gathering over a week ago, and the list of attendees grew by the day. He is pleased, especially, by the number of Democrats who are eager to work with him to kill the war resolution. Representatives Alan Grayson (D., Fla.) and Tulsi Gabbard (D., Hawaii), among other liberals, spoke.”

Alan Grayson has been on MSNBC dozens of times saying that Republicans wanted to defeat and now repeal Obama-care because ‘they want you to die’.

He was booted in 2010 but regained his seat in 2012.

But stirring up Dems to oppose Obama is a good idea.

4 posted on 09/10/2013 6:12:27 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: markomalley
In a secret meeting on Tuesday morning...

Blabber mouths....

5 posted on 09/10/2013 6:16:22 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: markomalley

I have good friends on the other side of the fence. Way on the other side. Leftist, Marxists and some Socialists. All old college chums. We normally do not talk politics, or quietly listen to each other without comment. We value our friendship and do not jeopardize it.

I was there once.

All of them, so far, do not support this conflict. They are genuinely puzzled at the president’s take on it and none want to be involved. If there is EVER an issue to unite the country this is it. Go Rand!


6 posted on 09/10/2013 6:18:59 AM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: markomalley

...Secretary of State John Kerry couldn't be reached for comment.

7 posted on 09/10/2013 6:21:39 AM PDT by McGruff (Strange times are these in which we live..)
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To: grania
The far left and the far right have always spoken their minds. What we have in common is we aren't bought and paid for.

Well we aren't...they've been Communists for decades.

8 posted on 09/10/2013 6:26:38 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: markomalley
According to several participants, the lawmakers plotted ways to stop the use of U.S. military force in Syria.

Russia already stopped it. There will be no use of U.S. military force in Syria.

As a side-note, this article conjured up an image in my head of these guys all in the capitol basement playing Dungeons and Dragons.
9 posted on 09/10/2013 6:35:15 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

And the left thinks true conservatives have sold out to crazed globalist bent on destroying freedom. We all have to put that aside for awhile.


10 posted on 09/10/2013 6:38:12 AM PDT by grania
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To: markomalley

Saw Tulsi Gabbard give an interview .... she was terrific on this issue (she’s definitely a Democrap on most other issues). She is currently a Military Police Company Commander with the Hawaii Army National Guard, and has served on two deployments to the Middle East. She made her case based on her military experience not the usual Leftist ‘emotional’ argument - it was devastating to what Obomber wants to do.


11 posted on 09/10/2013 6:55:42 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: markomalley

The big threat here is Obama and his idiotic policies.

If we have to work with liberals for a while to defeat Obama, then we hold our nose and do it. Whatever it takes to remove the threat.

Then, after the liberals served their usefulness, we can always kick them to the curb again


12 posted on 09/10/2013 6:58:29 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

The national review neo cons wanted war, baby!


13 posted on 09/10/2013 6:59:12 AM PDT by o2bfree (Lindsey Graham is left of South Carolina.)
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To: sickoflibs

“”He was booted in 2010 but regained his seat in 2012””

I didn’t know that. I thought he had lost his seat and was surprised when he showed up on TV.... Hard to keep track of the idiots other idiots put back in Congress..

But the gal from HI doesn’t look like a democrat at all. Much too pretty for that.


14 posted on 09/10/2013 7:02:02 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: o2bfree

WAG the dog to deflect focus from Benghazi


15 posted on 09/10/2013 7:06:34 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Chickensoup

“”We value our friendship and do not jeopardize it.””

That is true friendship. I have a difficult time with my own relatives so you are to be complimented IMO.

I think we all have a problem with some actors whose work we enjoy but deplore their politics thus stay away from their movies.


16 posted on 09/10/2013 7:08:58 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: svcw

Gives the story more spice, than to just say that Rand Paul had a meeting in the basement...


17 posted on 09/10/2013 7:10:16 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Thank You Rush
RE “”He was booted in 2010 but regained his seat in 2012””
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I didn’t know that. I thought he had lost his seat and was surprised when he showed up on TV.... Hard to keep track of the idiots other idiots put back in Congress..”

Nope, House GOP lost seats 2012 and he won back one of them.

That is why I know better than to depend solely on GOP media for my info. Everyone has an agenda and the info they give you is filtered to it, and yes I mean Rush. Grayson is a cult hero to progressives, esp Sharpton and Schultz who like the barking..

18 posted on 09/10/2013 7:30:33 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: svcw

Exactly. Loose lips sink ships, and apparently SOMEBODY needs a strategically-placed Masterlock.


19 posted on 09/10/2013 8:12:03 AM PDT by Me1onCollie
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To: Thank You Rush

That is true friendship. I have a difficult time with my own relatives so you are to be complimented IMO.

I think we all have a problem with some actors whose work we enjoy but deplore their politics thus stay away from their movies.
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Believe me I have lost other friends who became so incensed and angry that I had changed. Difference between class and no-class.


20 posted on 09/10/2013 9:44:43 AM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: grania
And the left thinks true conservatives have sold out to crazed globalist bent on destroying freedom.

Oh, I don't care what they think, they have no real concept of freedom, unless it's debauchery. "The left" has no interest in preserving traditional American values including military might, economic freedom and a moral society.

Their agenda and their success at destroying those institutions is self-evident.

21 posted on 09/10/2013 3:43:04 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: markomalley

Well, guess what..maybe Obama is a uniting influence after all.


22 posted on 09/11/2013 5:54:20 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: MissMagnolia

Maybe we can get her to mobilize her detachment and get into the birth records at the dept of health??


23 posted on 09/11/2013 6:11:38 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: markomalley

The Obama Foreign Policy: “Move forward” by “leading from behind,” and “stonewall” anyone who claims that Obama looks like an ASS.

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REMEMBER BENGHAZI !


24 posted on 09/11/2013 6:19:27 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: mmichaels1970

25 posted on 09/11/2013 6:55:21 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: newfreep
WAG the dog to deflect focus from Benghazi , Obamacare, CR, Debt Ceiling, and Amnesty!
26 posted on 09/11/2013 7:07:32 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: EEGator

Exactly


27 posted on 09/11/2013 7:31:49 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: canuck_conservative

Spot On!!


28 posted on 09/11/2013 7:39:33 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: markomalley
But, man, that's a motley crew he's hanging with...


29 posted on 09/11/2013 10:11:26 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: markomalley
...that's a motley crew

On the Republican side, senators Dean Heller (Nev.), Mike Lee (Utah), John Boozman (Ark.), and John Barrasso (Wyo.) were there. So was a group of House Republicans, such as Jim Jordan (Ohio), Scott Garrett (N.J.), Walter Jones (N.C.), Justin Amash (Mich.), Tim Huelskamp (Kan.), and Paul Broun (Ga.)

Some of those senators aren't so 'motley' i.e. Mike Lee...
30 posted on 09/11/2013 10:23:09 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: grania

Both party’s machines want the US military to become the
“Saudi Foreign Legion” and fight for Al-Quaeda.

If left leaning liberal members of Congress want to oppose that then they are welcome to come aboard.


31 posted on 09/11/2013 11:00:37 AM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: o2bfree

The neocons are just the old Rockefeller Republicans with a new label.


32 posted on 09/11/2013 11:02:22 AM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: svcw; markomalley
How is it secret, if everyone knows about it.

Because markomalley just outed the secret with the article he posted.

33 posted on 09/11/2013 11:19:12 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan
Because markomalley just outed the secret with the article he posted.

Correction: National Review just outed the secret with the article they published.

34 posted on 09/11/2013 11:23:51 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: mmichaels1970

I think Rand also was a help in stopping the war. Had there been no virulent opposition in Congress, Barry may have not felt the need to march Kerry out with equivocations that trapped him with the Russians.


35 posted on 09/11/2013 11:25:46 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Nextrush
The neocons are just the old Rockefeller Republicans with a new label.

Yup. I agree. I supported our troops in Vietnam and did not want John Kerry to succeed. But if I had been born before we got involved I would not have supported us going there in the first place.

I supported Afghanistan and Iraq. I have since rethought my support for Iraq.

I would have supported war with Iran and North Korea.

I supported arming the Contras.

I did not support Kosovo, Libya nor our involvement in Egypt.

So tell me, Am I anti-War? Or Pro-War?

36 posted on 09/11/2013 11:27:48 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: markomalley

Y’know if we’re ever going to WIN in the sense of preserving those things about America that we cherish, we’re going to have to get used to making alliances with folks outside our comfort zone.


37 posted on 09/11/2013 12:29:45 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Orangedog

The best way to publicize something is to call it a SECRET.

I’m sure that the uniparty was well aware of what Sen. Paul was up to.


38 posted on 09/11/2013 12:33:05 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Well we aren’t...they’ve been Communists for decades.”

Y’know what, if the person who casts the deciding vote to end infanticide happens to be a communist wiccan who advocates group lesbianism, I’m not going to care one little bit.


39 posted on 09/11/2013 12:36:47 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Chickensoup

“I was there once.”

As was I to a certain extent. Everybody who comes to Jesus comes in their own way and in their own time.


40 posted on 09/11/2013 12:37:44 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: canuck_conservative

“Then, after the liberals served their usefulness, we can always kick them to the curb again.”

And we can rest assured the liberals view us in the same light. But here’s the strange thing: once you get to know people, you begin to recognize that they’re even right on other stuff. Every now and then.


41 posted on 09/11/2013 12:39:57 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: o2bfree

“The national review neo cons wanted war, baby!”

And the dnc neo-libs want this war. They’re cut of the same cloth. Neo-conservative, neo-liberal, neo-fascist. What’s the difference?


42 posted on 09/11/2013 12:41:46 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: tsowellfan

Perhaps we are just Pro-Constitutional people who figure you make a speech like Franklin Roosevelt did on December 8, 1941 and Congress declares war after the United States is attacked.

And then you fight to total victory.


43 posted on 09/11/2013 2:07:10 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt’s Generals:
‘How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?’
Foreign Policy | 15 Aug 2013 | John Hudson
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055253/posts

Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt’s military — even as Cairo’s security forces massacre anti-government activists.

[by “anti-government activists” is meant church-burning jihadists]

Sen. Cruz Statement on Egypt (Suspend aid over anti-Muslim Brotherhood ‘coup’)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055492/posts

Ted Cruz blames Egyptian violence on Obama’s disregard for foreign aid law
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055589/posts


44 posted on 09/11/2013 6:59:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: markomalley
But, man, that's a motley crew he's hanging with...

A vote is a vote.

45 posted on 09/11/2013 7:05:27 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: mmichaels1970
There will be no use of U.S. military force in Syria.

Obama's objective is to bring the Muslim Brotherhood to power in Syria. The CIA is already arming and training the "Syrian" rebels. But if it takes more than that, don't be surprised if Obama gins up another excuse for a "limited" strike. Remember, our strikes in Libya were going to be limited too, and wound up being some 80 days, until Ghadafi was ultimately deposed.

46 posted on 09/11/2013 7:11:11 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Y’know what, if the person who casts the deciding vote to end infanticide happens to be a communist wiccan who advocates group lesbianism, I’m not going to care one little bit.

Well, not to worry, that ain't gonna happen.

47 posted on 09/11/2013 7:46:12 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: markomalley

I believe RON Paul voted with Dems significantly more than he voted with Republicans.

I’m also against sending any of our soldiers to Syria, but why doesn’t Rand Paul hang out with Repulicans who are against the war?


48 posted on 09/11/2013 8:36:13 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun
but why doesn’t Rand Paul hang out with Repulicans who are against the war?

Because there aren't many of them in the Senate?

49 posted on 09/11/2013 8:37:27 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: kevao

Can’t say I know how many there are, but Ted Cruz is ESPECIALLY strong against taking action against Syria.


50 posted on 09/11/2013 8:41:11 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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