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Boehner seeks to force Senate 'Obamacare' vote in budget battle (Not!)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 9-10-13 | Roxana Tiron and Kathleen Hunter

Posted on 09/10/2013 1:39:16 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

House Republican leaders said Tuesday they will try to force the Democratic-led Senate to vote on defunding President Barack Obama's health-care law before the House will agree to enact a stopgap government-funding measure.

"Our goal here is not to shut down the government," House Speaker John Boehner told reporters in Washington. "Our goal is to cut spending and to stop Obamacare."

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everal Republicans expressed opposition because they said they see the strategy as non-binding.

"Every member of the conference said they're going to do everything they can to defund Obamacare, and our leadership said in there they know this strategy will not defund Obamacare," Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., said in an interview.

Michigan Republican Justin Amash said in a message posted on Twitter : "I do not support the #hocuspocus plan that doesn't really defund #Obamacare."

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; US: Michigan; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: abortion; boehnercare; deathpanels; johnboehner; justinamash; michigan; obamacare; ohio; zerocare
While we were watching the Syria fiasco.

Boehnercare coming soon!

1 posted on 09/10/2013 1:39:16 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: RKBA Democrat

Ahhhh... See what bonehead is doing. They will cut a couple of more dollars, leave Obamacare in place and try to hold the House and take the Senate in 2014.

Of course by then it will be too late.


2 posted on 09/10/2013 1:41:14 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Either 1) Bonehead won’t pull it off, or 2) he’ll pull off something that’s worth nothing.

Just as he is worth nothing.


3 posted on 09/10/2013 1:43:16 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: RKBA Democrat

Several Republicans expressed opposition because they said they see the strategy as non-binding.
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This is nothing more than a procedural gimmick to lend the appearance of de-funding Obamacare cooked up by Republican “leadership”.

Call Boehner and Cantor and let them know they are not fooling anyone with this ruse.


4 posted on 09/10/2013 1:43:53 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: RKBA Democrat

Is Bohner proposing something here?


5 posted on 09/10/2013 1:44:50 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
from Liberty Alliance email--

Breaking: Republican Leaders Planning To Propose A "Hocus Pocus Plan For Defunding ObamaCare"

The deceptions never seem to end. Instead of defunding ObamaCare, Republican leaders are still working behind-the-scenes in an attempt to both fool the American people into believing that they oppose ObamaCare while they do everything in their power to ensure that ObamaCare becomes a permanent fixture on the American landscape.

Case in point... National Review is reporting that House Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor is now pushing a scheme that conservative critics are calling a "hocus pocus plan for defunding ObamaCare." And there is no better time than the present to call our elected officials on the carpet for their trickery.

Here's how the National Review report reads: "Under the Cantor plan, the House would vote on two measures, the CR and a resolution that amends the CR to defund ObamaCare. Both measures would be brought under a rule that allows the Senate to send just the clean CR to the president, but only after they first vote on whether to defund ObamaCare. If the Senate voted against defunding ObamaCare, they could then pass the clean CR."

In plain English, House Republican Leaders are proposing to push the Senate to take a token vote on defunding ObamaCare (which is doomed to fail), and then allow the Senate to immediately take another vote to fund ObamaCare. In doing so, they would ensure that ObamaCare is funded while maintaining the illusion to an unsuspecting public that Republicans don't want ObamaCare funded.

We're not fooled by this "hocus pocus" scheme and we need to make sure our so-called Republican leaders know that you are not fooled. Within the next 20 days, as its implementation progresses, ObamaCare may be so entrenched that it could become nearly impossible to defund and repeal. That’s why we need to reinforce our message that the American people want it DEFUNDED NOW... PERIOD!

6 posted on 09/10/2013 1:48:03 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: sickoflibs

“Is Bohner proposing something here?”

No. Just more obfuscation. The gop “leadership” is putting up a strawman bill to defund boehnercare. It’s a separate bill that will be defeated in short order so funding can go on as planned with a second bill that follows along with it.

Basically it allows the gop wing of the uniparty to say they were against boehnercare before they were for it.


7 posted on 09/10/2013 1:53:57 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat
John Boehner:

Wrong on defunding Obamacare

Wrong on making war in Syria

Wrong on amnesty

Wrong on everything that matters.


8 posted on 09/10/2013 1:56:34 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Yawn.

Let me know when the republicans start acting like a political party with actual political interests and positions.


9 posted on 09/10/2013 1:59:39 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: RKBA Democrat

A little game of three-card monte has just been laid out for us, come on, you were watching all the time, of course you know where the Queen of Hearts is in that shuffle. But watch how artfully the dealer picks up two cards with one hand and one card with the third hand. Lost in this quick shuffle, the mark has zero chance of selecting the “right” card, as there was no way of detecting whether the first card laid down was from the top or the bottom of that shuffle. This requires a great deal of practice with this particular sleight-of-hand by the dealer, and the compliance of two shills who are secretly working in cahoots with the dealer, unbeknownst to the mark at whom the play is directed.

Folks, you have been had.


10 posted on 09/10/2013 2:03:51 PM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: Bayard

“Let me know when the republicans start acting like a political party with actual political interests and positions.”

FRiend, that’s going to be a long, long, loooooong time.


11 posted on 09/10/2013 2:05:54 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: alloysteel

But c’mon! I saw the Queen of Hearts! The gop wouldn’t cheat us good conservatives, would they?

Would they?


12 posted on 09/10/2013 2:08:44 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: nathanbedford

“Wrong on everything that matters.”

But doing a great job as a judas goat.


13 posted on 09/10/2013 2:10:42 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“Michigan Republican Justin Amash said in a message posted on Twitter : “I do not support the #hocuspocus plan that doesn’t really defund #Obamacare.””

Yep, more hocus-pocus, subterfuge from Boehner, Cantor, and Sessions—the Republican “leaders.”


14 posted on 09/10/2013 2:11:04 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Cuffing-A right they would. Why do you think the game was set up this way?

And Lucy isn’t going to pull the football away from Charley Brown again, either. She PROMISED!

Oops, she just couldn’t help herself.


15 posted on 09/10/2013 2:30:03 PM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Boehner, Cantor and Sessions are trying to pull a bait and switch here. Their plan is to pass a continuing resolution to fund the gov't including ObamaCare and then, separately, a bill to defund ObamaCare. Both of these will pass the House. The CR will pass in the Senate and the bill to defund ObamaCare won't. That leaves ObamaCare fully funded through the CR. And these three traitors know that and plan it to be that way. They think you will be stupid enough to let them off the hook because they "voted to defund ObamaCare". The only way to get ObamaCare defunded is to break it out of the CR and vote on it separately. The Three Traitors are terrified of doing that.

BTW, Sessions is irate at Cruz for putting the heat on the House leadership. Redstate: "Multiple people confirm to me that just a few hours ago Pete Sessions blew up about Ted Cruz and made sure everyone in the room knew he held Cruz in absolute contempt."

16 posted on 09/10/2013 2:31:49 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Paine in the Neck

You’re known by the enemies you keep.


17 posted on 09/10/2013 3:09:53 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Paine in the Neck
BTW, Sessions is irate at Cruz

By the way it is Congressman Pete Sessions, who is the traitor here, not Senator Jeff Sessions, in case anyone gets confused on who the enemy is.

18 posted on 09/10/2013 7:02:59 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: RKBA Democrat; Hostage
RE :”No. Just more obfuscation. The gop “leadership” is putting up a strawman bill to defund boehnercare. It’s a separate bill that will be defeated in short order so funding can go on as planned with a second bill that follows along with it.”

I never understood what Cruz was up to . It was always certain to me that Bohner would in the end send a CR to Senate w Obama-care funding if not doing so would result in a shutdown that he would get blamed for.

So this little Bohner trick I think is : House GOP passes a defund CR to Senate and Bohners says “OK Ted, here is your defund bill. We did what you said. Now pass it in the Senate”

Of course Reid probably never takes it up, and Reid gets way more than the 51 he needs to pass the CR with Obama-care. Then at the last minute Bohner puts up same bill in house and passes it with Dems, no shutdown.

There is a word going around that Bohner will retire after this term, and if so after the next election we will see who steps up to run for Speaker,

19 posted on 09/10/2013 8:18:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

“There is a word going around that Bohner will retire after this term, and if so after the next election we will see who steps up to run for Speaker.”

I think the weeper has a significant chance of being retired if he runs again. In the mean time, he has nothing to lose by stabbing us in the back.

He is the epitome of what the gop wing of the uniparty has come to represent: betrayal on top of cowardice on top of socialism. Frankly, I don’t much care who his successor will be. We can rest assured he or she will be another anti-conservative. I think eric the weasel is next up.


20 posted on 09/11/2013 2:22:01 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat; Innovative; Hostage; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; ..
RE :”I think the weeper has a significant chance of being retired if he runs again. In the mean time, he has nothing to lose by stabbing us in the back.
He is the epitome of what the gop wing of the uniparty has come to represent: betrayal on top of cowardice on top of socialism. Frankly, I don’t much care who his successor will be. We can rest assured he or she will be another anti-conservative. I think eric the weasel is next up.”

Here is something you wont hear on talk radio:
Bohner ran again Jan 3 after that tax vote, the one that was supposedly the big betrayal raising our taxes.
But not one ran against him after that. Not one.
More telling none of the talk radio host constitutional purists were calling on any of them specifically to run against Bohner to replace him . Only I ALONE was challenging them (House members) myself the week before BOTH votes. I ALONE saw the scam clearly back then.

No one will take Boners job,call your favorite pet house hero and ask him to run against him as speaker, I dare you. He will never return the call.
72 posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:20 PM by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)

Get on the phone and call your favorite House member to run as Speaker and tell us what he said,
26 posted on Monday, December 24, 2012 1:58:08 AM by sickoflibs

Get someone to run against Bohner, its that simple.
52 posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 2:02:18 AM by sickoflibs

You should challenge them (your favorite house members) to oppose him as Speaker by running for it themselves now , this losing and then scape-goating whining stuff is long past old.
49 posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 1:46:45 AM by sickoflibs

21 posted on 09/11/2013 5:09:21 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
RE :”I think eric the weasel is next up.”

Its seems so as he is Bohners main mouthpiece.

BTW : Back last year or so libs made up a myth that Cantor was threatening to replace Bohner if Bohner didnt do ‘the rabid rights’ bidding, holding him hostage like.

I lib here just reminded me of that theme they used to repeat.

Of course we know that Cantor like Ryan is just another tool and he may not even want that job, unless Obama’s polls drop and stay down near congresses ~ 20s. Then its easy.

Cantor wants to repass that voting rights section,

22 posted on 09/11/2013 5:17:21 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: itsahoot
By the way it is Congressman Pete Sessions, who is the traitor here, not Senator Jeff Sessions, in case anyone gets confused on who the enemy is.

Good point. I should have made that clear in my post. Thanks.

23 posted on 09/11/2013 6:23:43 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: sickoflibs

yep i remember your commenting to the fact that NOBODY wanted boners job [and the bs that it required], therefore NOBODY would sign up for a chance at getting it...


24 posted on 09/11/2013 8:32:18 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

I figured those comments would come in handy.

Every day its like :’I cant believe that Bohner will....”

They cant really be shocked about the same pattern every day.


25 posted on 09/11/2013 9:21:05 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; RKBA Democrat; Innovative; Hostage; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; Impy
No one will take Boners job,call your favorite pet house hero and ask him to run against him as speaker, I dare you. He will never return the call.

It's getting really difficult to find any "heroes" in either party. Several GOP house members never cease complaining about Obama's policies, and yet are trying to give citizenship to those who would vote overwhelmingly for someone like Obama or Hillary. (Some seem to be waiting to see which side is ahead so they can't be trusted.) Let's call them and ask why they think they can have it both ways, and let's vote for good primary challengers if there are any.

26 posted on 09/11/2013 4:20:40 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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