Skip to comments.McCain: Putin wants US to take use of force off the table - unacceptable.
Posted on 09/10/2013 3:00:59 PM PDT by maggief
Putin wants US to take use of force off the table - unacceptable. "Putin: No US strikes for #Syria deal"
Vladimir Putin: No U.S. strikes for Syria deal - Tal Kopan
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that for the proposed Russian agreement that Syria turn over its chemical weapons to work, the United States must take military action off the table....
McCain, Obama, Kerry = war mongers.
McCain is desperate for another disaster in the mideast.
We’re going to war, this is all bluster IMHO.
Perhaps McCain has everything riding on making the Quatar pipeline happen.
Key senators draft alternative Syria resolution
By Kasie Hunt and Carrie Dann , NBC News
After an apparent diplomatic overture from Russia Monday, a group of U.S. lawmakers are working on an alternative congressional resolution to deal with Syria and its use of chemical weapons.
The proposal, led in part by Republican Sen. John McCain and Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer, could replace the limited authorization of force that a key Senate committee approved last week with a congressional directive to the United Nations, a source familiar with the negotiations said.
The alternative legislation would direct the UN to pass a resolution confirming that chemical weapons were used in Syria. Then UN officials would go in to the civil war-torn country and remove existing chemical weapons caches by a certain time.
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If those steps dont take place, the resolution would then authorize the president to use force.
Other lawmakers involved in the Senate’s new negotiations are Republicans Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire and Saxby Chambliss of Georgia as well as Democrats Chris Coons of Delaware, Carl Levin of Michigan and Bob Casey of Pennsylvania.
"Beware. America is being run by an undocumented gangster for al Qaeda."
Almost as good as being president, eh McJuan?
There has to be a way to prevent clowns like John McCain and that super-clown Al Franken from ever holding any sort of a high public office. You could require a secret-level (minimal) security clearance and a score of at least 130 on an IQ test and a valid driver’s license for starters.....
They want a war. The Saudis demand it.
Here is what McCain needs to say:
Russia is the new power broker in the Middle East. Our president gave up that position through his dithering. God keep Isreal safe.
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They made deals without our approval and now we’re supposed to uphold our end of their bargain.
At this point I have very little compunction about handing scum like McCain over to their masters.
Note to John McCain - the Middle East is now, for all intents and purposes, a hegemony of the Russian Federation. Syria and Iran are among their fiefdoms, and they hold title to the allegiance of those countries.
I guess an uneasy alliance of Shi’ite and secular Muslims will be the controlling force for the present time. The Saudi royal family ain’t gonna like this much.
Not like anybody ever gets to vote on these things in the Middle East anyway.
Unfortunately they would just become high paid lobbyists.
It would be terrible if we couldn’t sake McCain’s thirst for blood.
Don’t know that we are.
The dems in congress are milque toast.
Middle eastern regimes fine. Russia and China, they are wetting their panties.
Putin won’t be backing down. Any war here not only won’t be over soon - there is zero chance of headfaking their base into thinking it won’t be a meatgrinder and they loose all of the white guilt voters.
Obonghit is checkmated, the arab spring has collapsed in Egypt and will collapse in Libya so backing Obonghit after what is now a string of losses is a losing proposition for Reid whatever his blackmail material.
Perhaps Soros has angered God. Or merely amused him.
Why would anyone of sound mind give Obama permission to declare war in the future?
He never met a war he didn’t love.
How about Congress vote to stop the funding of military weapons to the Syria Rebels whoever they are.
I think McCain could save Obama’s ass by demanding regime change! The “Progressives” could point to Crazy Uncle John as an example of what they’re saving Syria from.
‘Deal with us or you’ll have to deal with him!’
Forget the original Syria question!
“The U.S. will NOT have the terms of Syrian surrender of WMD dictated by Syria’s largest advanced weapon provider!”
“If I only had a brain!”
Agreed. Our arms to these “rebels” has done nothing but extend this war. Assad would have put it down by now and while brutal, the people could have gone back to living in relative peace.
If the rebels do have access to chemical weapons, then this is an obvious setup. After the UN leaves with Assad’s chemical weapons, the rebels stage another false flag attack, Obama claims Assad was holding out on the UN, and it’s back on.
Then I think you Senator McCain should ask Reed to let the Senate vote for the War Act tomorrow! Then push to have Boehner have the Congress vote the next day!
Can this mean that McCain’s Head Can No Longer Be Mistaken For One Of Obongo’s Hemorrhoids?
“Why would anyone of sound mind give Obama permission to declare war in the future?”
Because the Saudis and Qatar want control of the gas pipeline ... and could threaten to tank the US dollar.
Ya know, it’s getting to where everytime I see McIdiot’s name I automatically holler, “Shut up!”
Remember guys, the final objective is to get this voted on in the House, and prevent Obama from destroying America further.
I just spit on the ground when McCain’s name is spoken.
(Syria) proposal, led in part by Republican Sen. John McCain and Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer,
McCain, shut up!
I don't think Syrian CW can be transported. They have too much of the stuff, and who knows how many of those bombs are unstable and ready to spill the contents. The weapons will have to be destroyed in Syria, using US or Russian technology, at a facility that is built for the job. It will take years. While that's happening, the CW depots will be guarded by international forces. Assad will have a pretty good alibi.
The argument of "he hid one or two barrels of Sarin" won't work because it's impossible to disprove. If someone is murdered we don't arrest the neighbor just because he could have had the weapon. We investigate to find out if he did have one. Anyone can have a barrel or two of Sarin - it's a pretty old chemical, well known and well understood. In case of a chemical attack, like the one that happened recently, the proper response would be a police investigation that discovers facts, clues, evidence that points to specific people. And besides, what is the military value of a few chemical bombs?
I believe the real object is, and always has been regime change. The chemical weapons attacks were just manufactured pretense to lend an air of legitimacy to Obama using the US military to intervene on behalf of the MB, for the purpose of replacing secular governments with caliphates in the region. No matter what happens with those chemical weapons, he intends to attack Assad and give the Islamists an opening to move in and take control.
I don't know that we are either, but I'd bet on it.
There's an agenda a play here, not sure what it is but it seems so.
If Obama’s strike was for the purpose of deterring the use of chemical weapons, that certainly is common sense.
If it doesn’t work....then you go back to Congress and the UN....Obama is trying to be sneaky and get “unrestrained” approval for a strike passed.
Why can’t everyone just ignore this crazy old man?
The agenda is the Quatar pipeline to free europe from the Russian energy hegemony. The route for it geographically has to go through Syria.
The Saudis want it.
Most of Europe wants it.
Russia, China, Syria, and Iran don’t want it.
To try to make it happen for the Europeans and the Saudis the whole Arab Spring seems to have been staged with enough effort to throw the entire middle east back into the chaos it saw in the seventies and then knock out Syria hoping Iran would be spooked. Using the USA as the bad guy proxies so as not to further inflame Europe’s Islamic hoardes.
I am pretty sure Obama’s puppet masters never seriously considered that Russia and China would be willing to step up to the plate.
Evidently they miscalculated.
I've seen that notion posited here, I wasn't at first inclined to believe it, but I'm starting to think that might just be correct.
Who knows, lot's of thing going on here.
For now I'll just observe, the truth should reveal it's self here soon.